PUISSANCE de lune melbourne cup winner 5th nov

Yes well done Lets

Nothing to do with that second I just dont like to see people make bookies rich unnecesarily as betting that far out at those sorts of odds in the cup is just absurd.

thanks for update LE ur rite in what you say but it was 10 pounds a week I put on as fun bet after the blamey I will wait now until all clear thanks

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stop bumping the thread, nothing has changed, the horse hasn't raced, the horse is not seriously injured, the horse probably did a large sh1t over night

got bitten by a bot fly this morning but wound is only superficial

S . C what colour was it

s.c ..all im asking for is updates and a bumped up thread is not life threating. how do u suggest I get them if no one can see this thread

PDL is a big-name horse now, a well known horse I mean

if something was to happen, you'd hear about it from one of us

any news wen next running

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It's all Puissance for 2013 Melbourne Cup

The news that Puissance De Lune will make his return from minor surgery in next month's P B Lawrence Stakes will be music to the ears of the huge number of punters that have already backed him in the Melbourne Cup.

Sportingbet have declared the Darren Weir-trained galloper their "worst result by a mile" as the countdown to Australia's great race continues.

"Puissance De Lune is already our worst result by a six figure sum," Sportingbet Australia spokesman Andrew Brown said.

"Every day they just keep backing him and we've written more $100 and $200 bets than I'm prepared to count."

Puissance De Lune was a $12 chance when Sportingbet opened betting on the 2013 Melbourne Cup back in November last year.

"We've taken multiple four-figure bets for Puissance De Lune to win the cup including one of $2,000 at odds of $10," he said.


Think its run next Saturday

GLEN Boss has never been backward in coming forward in terms of Puissance De Lune's spring prospects, but after riding him in work at Ballarat his excitement only increased.

Boss couldn't contain his enthusiasm for the grey stallion on Saturday morning after riding him for the first time since he dead-heated on him in the Blamey Stakes in March.

"He's an exciting prospect. He could be the best horse in Australia,'' he said.

"He felt better than he did in the autumn and also last spring. He's put on 50 kilos and it's all muscle and bulk.

"He's really furnished. He's a big powerful bull. He looked magnificent.''

Boss said the Ballarat track was water-logged and they wouldn't race on it so he didn't push him out in the 900m trial.

"He was on the bit throughout and cantered round to finish second,'' he said.

"I don't think I've ever been on a track which is that heavy so we just cruised around. He was on the bridle the whole way and he cantered into second placing.''

Boss said it was the best Puissance De Lune had felt in terms of his action.

"His action felt better than it did last autumn when he had that slight problem and it felt better than last spring,'' he said.

"There's a long way ahead but I would think he'd be hard to beat in anything he contests.''

His trainer Darren Weir said he was pleased with the way Puissance De Lune pulled up from the gallop and he will run in next Saturday's Lawrence Stakes (1400m) at Caulfield.

thanks great replies

2/1 + on bfair should I bet on him sat race 6 Caulfield thanke

no, lay for me

1400m, needed every last metre of the mile last time when first up, hard to see it winning this race against some likely types, this being the first up run in a campaign that is likely to last a few months, they won't be trying to get any sort of a gut busting run out of it

SECOND EFFORT would be my tip

Melbourne Cup still a long way off but this is a very weak edition of the Liston Stakes , keep the traditional race names your farkwits otherwise the races loses meaning.

boss claims this horse to possibly be the best horse in australia.
if you compare only just winning at 1600m first up to 1400m this time around, the difference is the horse beat a stronger field last time and this time around he has improved.

only downside is the track, 1400m at caulfield is like 1200m at flemington.but good horses win first up at all distance in oz.

The ride got it beaten at Flemington but it's a very average Liston Stakes field, its been proven time and time again that chopping and changing the names of our great races doesn't work.

what can you say about his performance today ? WOW !..won so easily, 2nd last 150m from home, crusied past the field.

boss said after the race he was the best horse he has ridden and he rode the Diva and So you Think

Think So You Think might have spanked that field somehow!!! Boss getting very carried away but agree couldn't have been more impressive

wonder if Lets is having second thoughts about saying PDL wouldn't win the Melbourne Cup at the end of last spring

not so easy before an event is it Lets

Highly impressive but I'd like to see it beat some good WFA horses before I think about it while making love to Mrs Crow

please name our good quality WFA horses crow

You've caught me on the hop, but for a start

No    Horse    Trainer                 Rating
1    ALIYANA TILDE    Kerry Parker                 
2    ARABIAN GOLD    David Vandyke                 
3    ARALDO (GB)    Michael Moroney                 
4    ASHOKAN    Gai Waterhouse                 
5    ATLANTIC JEWEL    Mark Kavanagh                 
6    AVA'S DELIGHT    Darren Weir                 
7    BAYRIR (FR)    Chris Waller                 
8    BEATEN UP (GB)    Chris Waller                 
9    BIANMICK    Michael Brady                 
10    BIT OF HELL (IRE)    Mick Price                 
11    BONARIA    Pat Hyland                 
12    BRIGANTIN (USA)    Pat Carey                 
13    BUDRIGUEZ    David Jolly                 
14    BULL POINT    Gai Waterhouse                 
15    CARLTON HOUSE (USA)    Gai Waterhouse                 
16    CAUTHEN (NZ)    Andrew R Campbell                 
17    CHIL THE KITE (GB)    Hugh Morrison                 
18    CLUSTER    Anthony Cummings                 
19    COMMANDING JEWEL    Leon Corstens                 
20    DANY THE FOX (NZ)    Mick Price                 
21    DEAR DEMI    Clarry Conners                 
22    DISSIDENT    Peter G Moody                 
23    DRAGO    Anthony Cummings                 
24    DURNFORD    Pat Carey                 
25    ECLAIR BIG BANG (NZ)    Phillip Stokes                 
26    ECUADOR (NZ)    Gai Waterhouse                 
27    EL ROCA    Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young                 
28    EQUATOR    Gai Waterhouse                 
29    ETHIOPIA    Pat Carey                 
30    FAST DRAGON    Bruce Wallace                 
31    FAST 'N' ROCKING    David Hayes                 
32    FAWKNER    Robert Hickmott                 
33    FERLAX (NZ)    Jim Conlan                 
34    FIBRILLATION    Mick Price                 
35    FIORENTE (IRE)    Gai Waterhouse                 
36    FLYING SEBRING    Gai Waterhouse                 
37    FORETELLER (GB)    Chris Waller                 
38    FORGOTTEN VOICE (IRE)    Nicky Henderson                 
39    GLENCADAM GOLD (IRE)    Gai Waterhouse                 
40    GRAVITATIONAL    Danny O'Brien                 
41    GREAT ESTEEM    David Hayes                 
42    GREEN MOON (IRE)    Robert Hickmott                 
43    GREGERS    David Hayes                 
44    GUELPH    Peter Snowden                 
45    GUEST OF HONOUR (IRE)    Marco Botti                 
46    HAMMERFEST (GB)    John Hammond                 
47    HAPPY TRAILS    Paul Beshara                 
48    HARTANI (IRE)    Robert Hickmott                 
49    HATHRAS (GB)    Kris Lees                 
50    HAWKSPUR    Chris Waller                 
51    HIGH ESTEEM    Peter G Moody                 
52    HIPPOPUS (NZ)    Gai Waterhouse                 
53    HOOKED    John P Thompson                 
54    HORNETS' NEST (GB)    James J McNamara                 
55    HOSTING    Greg Eurell                 
56    HVASSTAN    Peter Gelagotis                 
57    HYDRO    Gai Waterhouse                 
58    I CAN ROCK    Gary Portelli                 
59    IKE'S LEGACY    David Vandyke                 
60    IT'S A DUNDEEL (NZ)    Murray Baker                 
61    JET AWAY (GB)    David Hayes                 
62    JULIENAS (IRE)    Gai Waterhouse                 
63    KELINNI (IRE)    Chris Waller                 
64    KESAMPOUR (FR)    Peter G Moody                 
65    KINCAPLE (NZ)    Adam Durrant                 
66    KINGDOMS (NZ)    John O'Shea                 
67    KNIGHT EXEMPLAR    Gai Waterhouse                 
68    LAKE SENTENTIA    Darren Weir                 
69    LESS IS MORE (FR)    David Vandyke                 
70    LIBERTY'S CHOICE    Gai Waterhouse                 
71    LIDARI (FR)    Peter G Moody                 
72    LONG JOHN    Peter Snowden                 
73    LONGMA    Mick Price                 
74    LORD DURANTE    Simone Ferchie                 
75    LUCKY CHAPPY (IRE)    Pat Carey                 
76    LUCKY PENNY    Peter Morgan & Craig Widdison                 
77    LUCKYGRAY    Robert Smerdon                 
78    LUNAYIR (FR)    Chris Waller                 
79    MAHICAN    Peter G Moody                 
80    MAIN SEQUENCE (USA)    David Lanigan                 
81    MALAVIO    Steve Englebrecht                 
82    MANDOUR (USA)    Alain de Royer Dupre                 
83    MANIGHAR (FR)    Peter G Moody                 
84    MARS (IRE)    Aidan O'Brien                 
85    MASKED MARVEL (GB)    Robert Hickmott                 
86    MASSIYN (IRE)    Robert Hickmott                 
87    MAXIOS (GB)    Jonathan Pease                 
88    METAL BENDER (NZ)    Chris Waller                 
89    MICHELANGELO (GB)    Gai Waterhouse                 
90    MORIARTY (IRE)    Chris Waller                 
91    MOURAYAN (IRE)    Robert Hickmott                 
92    MOURO (USA)    Tony McEvoy                 
93    MR MOET    Adam Durrant                 
94    MR O'CEIRIN (NZ)    Ciaron Maher                 
95    MULL OF KILLOUGH (IRE)    Jane Chapple-Hyam                 
96    MUTUAL TRUST (GB)    Sam Pritchard-Gordon                 
97    MY QUEST FOR PEACE (IRE)    Peter G Moody                 
98    NASHVILLE (NZ)    Adrian Bull                 
99    NEVIS (IRE)    Robert Hickmott                 
100    NIBLICK    Brett Cavanough                 
101    NORZITA (NZ)    Bart & James Cummings                 
102    OASIS BLOOM    Peter Morgan & Craig Widdison                 
103    OMINOUS (GB)    Nigel Blackiston                 
104    ORDER OF THE SUN    Gai Waterhouse                 
105    OUR DESERT WARRIOR    Gai Waterhouse                 
106    OUR MISS JONES (NZ)    Michael Kent                 
107    PAKAL (GER)    Mick Price                 
108    PITCREW    Gai Waterhouse                 
109    PRINCE CHERI (FR)    David Vandyke                 
110    PRINCE HARADA    Tony Vasil                 
111    PUISSANCE DE LUNE (IRE)    Darren Weir                 
112    RANKED (IRE)    Robert Hickmott                 
113    RED INCA    Ray Besanko                 
114    REKINDLED INTEREST    Jim Conlan                 
115    RENEGADE ARROW (NZ)    Patrick F Ryan                 
116    RHYTHM TO SPARE (NZ)    Michael Moroney                 
117    RIALYA    Lloyd Kennewell                 
118    ROCKABILL    Gai Waterhouse                 
119    ROLLOUT THE CARPET    Emma-Lee Browne                 
120    ROYAL DESCENT    Chris Waller                 
121    SACRED FALLS (NZ)    Chris Waller                 
122    SALON SOLDIER (GER)    Kris Lees                 
123    SEA MOON (GB)    Robert Hickmott                 
124    SERTORIUS    Jamie Edwards & Bruce Elkington                 
125    SEVILLE (GER)    Robert Hickmott                 
126    SHAMUS AWARD    Danny O'Brien                 
127    SHOOT OUT    Chris Waller                 
128    SIDE GLANCE (GB)    Andrew Balding                 
129    SIDESTEP    Peter Snowden                 
130    SILENT ACHIEVER (NZ)    Roger James                 
131    SIMENON (IRE)    William Mullins                 
132    SIZZLING    Kelso Wood                 
133    SNEAK A PEEK (ITY)    Peter G Moody                 
134    SOLZHENITSYN (NZ)    Robert Heathcote                 
135    SOMEDAY    Kelso Wood                 
136    SPEEDINESS    Colin Scott                 
137    STAR ROLLING    Peter Morgan & Craig Widdison                 
138    STRAWBERRY BOY    Peter G Moody                 
139    STREAMA    Guy Walter                 
140    SUPER COOL    Mark Kavanagh                 
141    SWIGGIN'    Anthony Cummings                 
142    TALENT SHOW    Graeme Ballantyne                 
143    TANBY    Robert Hickmott                 
144    THE CLEANER    Robert Smerdon                 
145    THOUGHT WORTHY (USA)    Robert Hickmott                 
146    TOKAMAK    Barry Lockwood                 
147    TOYDINI    Guy Walter                 
148    TREVIERES (FR)    Carlos Laffon-Parias                 
149    VILANOVA (NZ)    Chris Waller                 
150    WALDPARK (GER)    Anthony Freedman                 
151    WEISSMULLER (NZ)    Andrew R Campbell                 
152    WHISPER DOWNS    David Hayes                 
153    WHY NOT (GER)    David Hayes                 
154    WROTHAM HEATH (GB)    David Hayes                 
155    XANADU (NZ)    Ken Kelso                 
156    YOUR HONOUR    Greg Eurell                 
157    YOU'RE SO GOOD (NZ)    Nigel Blackiston                 
158    ZABISCO (NZ)    Michael Moroney                 
159    ZOUSTAR    Chris Waller      

You think Its a Dundeel would have given that lot windburn yesterday, it would have done exactly the same thing as would any horse of genuine quality, for fark sake Launay & Pago Rock were strongly in the market, Mr Moet first up would have disposed of that lot!!!

My point was and always has been that taking 12/1 a year prior to the Melbourne Cup about any horse is a shortcut to the poor house.

By doing so you are aiding and abetting thieving corporate bookmakers who are engaging in an outright act of buggery.

If you had layed the early pre post favourite for the Melbourne CXup and I mean early by a year out you would be that far in front over say the last 30 years  you would be laughing all the way to the bank.

it wasnt the quality of horse he beat, it was how he beat them, including last 200 sectional.

Yes I am a well aware of that and I didn't bet against him or in the race I had zero interest in the race other than watching it for the future but this is likely to be the strongest melbourne cup yet and I don't lay horses as rule but if he gets into ridiculous odds this far out for Melbourne cup I will be doing so, what price is he into now 5 or 6 bucks???

Horse won't win the Mebourne Cup.

Cox Plate a different matter.

Still think a fit Atlantic Jewel will give it a belting though.

aurprised you left out gazza guru crow

Very interesting Mr123, you think he is more a Cox plater than a MC horse

Don't get me wrong I like the horse as a horse and I always have, I launched on it in the Bendigo cup after it was blatantly necked at the 'bool at it's previous start how the jock never got time is clearly evident of how incompetent the stewards really are.

Looks a Champion to me. So does AJ. We are lucky.

Looks to sharp for MC IMO,

The opposite of you then earlycrow

If I was a horse I would be the WFA champion of the world over all distances, all surfaces, winning multiple G1 on every continent. When retired to stud after 10 years as the worlds highest rated horse I would set many records including siring the whole field in the Arc, Cox, Breeders ,Dubi world Cup and what ever Japan's and Hong Kongs biggest races are, in my 1st season

sts said you were a donkey

I think you'll find he ment Hung like a Donkey

Not sure even he knows what he means

Hes had a few Donkeys in his time IMO

At the same time?

His moto is anywhere, any time, so I would guess yes

He knows hot to talk I know that, he bet me that he could talk underwater with a mouthful of marbles, of course I agreed to the bet, he fkn won

Is he a p00f?

No but he's fcked a few

Not sure, you better ask his boyfriend earlycrow

Judge?

Judge doesn't walk backwards any time especially around you 2

Yes Spy, not convinced it will run the trip. But heck, that's just my opinion. Often wrong.

the breeding is interesting, sire and dam were milers.


Shamardal (USA)  (8.1f) — Princess Serena (USA) (Unbridled´s Song (USA)  (8.0f))

We're all often wrong in this game Mr123, the key is not being wrong too often.
My opinion is, the CC yes but they may not go for it and risk a penalty for the MC, the Cox Plate? It will want to be a weak rendition to have a chance, 20/1 wouldn't entice me at this stage

Spy, did you have a nice win in the second at Kembla on Saturday?

Better not have, never told me about r2 Kembla ffs

You ask too many questions Mr123 it was fair result, crunched the quin with the fav, if it would have held on would've been nice

Ps Mr Crow, I know not what judge tips you, he told me he only likes giving you horses at big prices because you're greedy

Mr Crow, you should be a Better Man not a bitter man

No such thing as too many questions.

I do feel I can read minds however.

Was a super result.

Judgey told me he checks his letterbox everyday expecting to find a cheque in it, but its never there

Funny he says that, I do the same thing....

Last count I think he'd piggy backed 9 of 11 or something....

You mean he cherry picked, but only for peanuts, he is too busy carrying me and others to get a ride himself

Judge has been living of CrowForm for sometime, sounds like he's been double dipping ffs

Why else do you think he and sts lurk for, they get all the quality info then bet up

even money for sat race me lumping on thought it would be well odds on

if he wins saturday, history says he is a forlorn chance in the melbourne cup

forlorn chance > if he wins ... well if he loses hes got a chance then ?

if he looses hes a chance in the mc - if he wins hes a better chance in the caulfield cup

well thats complicated wins loses me thinks this horse will win everytime it runs

6/4 wow, should be 1/2

If you have backed it @12.0 and 110 as you say i would now lay on bet fair and come out a certain winner.
there is a long way to go for Melbourne Cup.
Best of Luck

at the time of this post i started, i have continued to put 10pounds a week on him odds 6/1.>12/1 just over 3grand if it does win so not missing the money i will keep the faith in PDL.and thanks AB

only beaten a pimple

miles was calling with more confidence yesterday imo (just saying)

Focus should have been on the old staying double Caulfield Cup/Melbourne Cup.  Would have already been past the post in CC.

I saw  a great Melbourne Cup chance yesterday and it wasn't Puissance De Lune, who was a good run but certainly not great.

Would want to sprint a lot better than it did yesterday to win a Caulfield Cup.

we know his a beauty over 1 1/2 miles...CC prizemoney not bad, CC Has lost a bit of exposure over the years....excellent prize money but.??????

how's the five bucks for a cox plate looking now absolutely ludicrous over reaxtion to his liston stakes win first up, he may still win who knows but the price on offer after that win was insanity.

trainer feels boss 'went a bit early"
hard marker imo

Boss said the same, he was just a victim of circumstance, fkn terrible being a victim of that

well he would agree with the trainer at this stage wouldnt he

Because trainer was correct

what? should have shown more patience before taking off near the turn?

As I said was a victim of circumstance

They are gunna walk up front. imo

Who will lead, any chance AJ leads?

Maybe. I can't find anything else?  Can you?
Not to sure on the imports.

Don't really do much in Vic, why would I when I bet in the PREMIER STATE

Lead is there for her if she wants it

maybe Happy Trails

PDL rolls forward from wide draw imo, Waldpark maybe as well. Whatever they do on AJ she just looks to get a good run, 1.60-70 looks good price compared to her all in quote for Cox plate

think i would rather take the 3s hawkspur atm then 1.70 her

He is not in the race

Now looks like PDL should have been set for the old traditional Caulfield Cup / Melbourne Cup double.  Caulfield Cup would have been a good track gallop and still won by 6 lengths before attempting the Melbourne Cup.  Going the Cox Plate / Melbourne Cup may have been a bit greedy, may get too far back in the Cox Plate, then his got to attempt the unknown of 2 miles.

Geelong Cup at best IMO

any chance pdl today please

yes

going to need all the breaks to win the Melbourne Cup and is massive unders

I agree with Let's run off and get married, but I don't think it has any chance

Ah well, being greedy and focusing on the Cox Plate with a lead up to the Melbourne Cup without penalty what happens? their wheels fall off.  Silly Barstards could have had a Caulfield Cup sitting on the mantle piece with ease.