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Tony Abbott’s judgement…….
How will he act as our spokesperson on the world stage? How does he react to events in the general discourse of day to day life? Does he have the gravitas and the demeanour of a States-person? Does he have the diplomatic skills of a Prime Minister? Has there ever been an event that he has commented on that he hasn't tried to score a political point. Can he ever apologise for something he said or did ......without giving a qualified response and a dig at his detractors? …………………………………………………………………………………………………………… “This is one boat that did get stopped” He makes sick jokes at the expense of the Men, Women, and children who drowned in the Costa-Concordia disaster in order to try and score a political point. ‘’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’ Laurie Oakes……. He did not apologise for making light of the shipwreck tragedy, conceding only that it was "probably something that should not have been the subject of light-hearted banter". "probably". And he added that "banter is banter" and critics should "appreciate just the way talk radio operates. “ The bloke just doesn't get it. ‘’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’ So he gives a conditional apology and then has the nerve to castigate anyone who is critical of him because THEY do not understand how talk radio works. In reality it was a non apology and a one finger salute. THIS IS OUR ALTERNATIVE PRIME MINISTER. His sick joke was broadcast around the world, in dismay at how a tragic disaster could bring out the worst in people who put politics above anything else. This is what the world knows about our alternative Prime Minister……..Tony Abbott. ………………………………………………………………………………………………………… He humiliates Bernie Bamtam.... he man who was stricken with cancer from asbestos all because he went to work, and was in a fight against a big business. Whilst using intimidating body language he accuses him of having ulterior motives for his stand against asbestos……… He tries to intimidate those who oppose him ……………………………………………………………………………………………………….. TONY ABBOTT ……..Alternative Prime Minister of Australia. After the death of Margaret Whitlam…… ''There was a lot wrong with the Whitlam government but nevertheless, it was a very significant episode in our history and Margaret Whitlam was a very significant element in the political success of Gough Whitlam,'' Mr Abbott said. Several letters to Fairfax newspapers accused Mr Abbott of inappropriately scoring a political point, of being vindictive, and an affront to basic decency. Linking her passing with the sins of the Whitlam government to try and score a political point appears to have struck an extremely wrong note. ………………………………………………………………………………… Tony Abbott , alternative Prime Minister. ![]() |
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Blah blah blah
i think you have to be a member of the liberal party to sack mr Abbott. As you are not a member why don't you shut the fk up. |
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I will if Abbott does.
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INSIDERS
Broadcast: 04/09/2005 Edited Extract…….(Bracketed comments added) Abbott admits to insensitive Brogden comments Federal Health Minister Tony Abbott has offered to apologise( But he didn't) for making inappropriate comments about former New South Wales Opposition leader John Brogden, in the hours after his apparent suicide attempt. BARRIE CASSIDY: I mentioned David Clarke - as I understand it you addressed a meeting of the Kenthurst branch of the Liberal Party on Wednesday night and you said this, "Whenever you hear that David Clarke is doing bad things, you know he is really doing a great job." TONY ABBOTT: Yes, I do go to the Kenthurst branch and that sounds like something I might have said. BARRIE CASSIDY: Beyond that, I'm told that you praised David Clarke, but not a word of praise for John Brogden who had only resigned 24 hours previously? TONY ABBOTT: Well, I praised John Brogden in public that very day. Everyone feels very sorry for John Brogden. He did what he shouldn't have done, [At a function for the NSW Hotels Association, Brogden was heard to describe Bob Carr's Malaysian-born wife Helena as `a mail order bride', and further, was seen to `pinch a female journalist on the bottom' and speak to another inappropriately.]………. but having done the dishonourable thing he did the honourable thing (Resigned) and subsequent events are just tragic. That's what I said during the week and I'm happy to say it again now. BARRIE CASSIDY: Keeping in mind that that speech at the Kenthurst branch was 24 hours after John Brogden had attempted to take his on life, did you begin your remarks by saying, "I just want to make it clear I have never told an inappropriate joke, I've never pinched a woman on the backside and I never make inappropriate gestures to women"? (So whilst making an inappropriate joke…… Abbott tells his audience that he has never made an inappropriate joke…. And he never makes inappropriate gestures to women. Apparently a former Female Student Political adversary would disagree with the inappropriate gestures toward women bit.) TONY ABBOTT: The point is that I made a speech to the Kenthurst branch of the Liberal Party and the guts of that speech was to say, look, we need to move on from the trauma and tragedy of the last couple of days. And one of the points that I made was that Barry O'Farrell had shown the kinds of gifts of character that we need to see more of in the State party if it's to flourish. (So it’s about O’Farrells character not Abbott’s.) BARRIE CASSIDY: Did you make those characters and do you think that's a way that a Health Minister in particular ought to behave? Do you think you lacked a bit of sensitivity there? TONY ABBOTT: Well Barrie, look, I have never claimed to be the world's most sensitive person. BARRIE CASSIDY: Well, let's go back to lunchtime on the same day. Now this is just 12 hours after John Brogden was rushed off to hospital. You're now a guest speaker at another function and I'm told you were asked about a particular health proposal and you said this, "If we did that we would be as dead as the former Liberal leader's political prospects." (John Brogden’s) Did you say that? TONY ABBOTT: Look Barrie, I was at a fundraising gathering. It was a very small gathering. And I was no doubt commenting on a particular political proposal. BARRIE CASSIDY: But inappropriately surely, and particularly as Health Minister? (OR Alternative PRIME MINISTER) TONY ABBOTT: Well, Barrie look, as I said, if you want to accuse me of insensitivity, by all means. I have never claimed to be the world's most sensitive person. BARRIE CASSIDY: In retrospect do you think that's something you should now apologise for? TONY ABBOTT: Barrie, if it would make people feel better if I apologised, I'm always happy to apologise. I don't believe in standing on my dignity. BARRIE CASSIDY: But you do accept they were inappropriate? TONY ABBOTT: Barrie, lots of people say lots of things. (That'd be a no.) (No apology????? An apology is not about making the offended person feel better. It’s about being sorry for making them feel offended in the first place.) OUR ALTERNATIVE PRIME MINISTER. |
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JULIA GILLARD: The Science is settled, we have to stop using coal
GINA: Listen Red, you better give me what I want or I'll buy a newspaper and bring you and your Party down JULIA: Ok Boss. You can have a new coal mine at Alpha, Qld. GINA: But Red, you do realise it will be the biggest NEW coal mine ever built in Australia, and potentially the world, don't you. And you do realise I will be taking out the coal ship after ship after ship through our World Heritage Listed Great Barrier Reef, don't you. JULIA: Yes Boss, of course I realise, but don't worry, the people won't remember I said the co2 tax was an environmental tax based on "The Science". They'll all forget by the September election. ![]() |
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What about Julia's gay boyfriend's Gaff!!
does he really want an asian chick sticking her figer up his blutter?? I Think Not !! he would prefer big Bubba IMHO |
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I wouldnt mind tbh
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Perhaps we can introduce you to POON or LITTLE BIT
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well said Kye - ridiculous thread - why would you care AFL as the Labor Parties number 1 betfair ticket holder - by the way Julia makes me sick like no politician since Peter Reith
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Yeah good bloke Abbott is.....makes jokes about people that attempted suicide...12 hrs earlier.
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OK, so you want Abbott sacked from being opposition leader because he is not Prime Minister material, who would you prefer to see as opposition leader?
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Clive Palmer.
Because he has been the only person in the Political Scene from the right that appears to have a heart. (Asylum Seeker Policy) From all the politicians on the scene at the moment the one who would make the best Prime Minister would be Tony Windsor. IMO. |
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tony f uckn Windsor, christ afl
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... lol ... windsor ... well at least we are keeping this silly poitical rubbish light-hearted
so i'll add a bit of levity also well at least windsor was onto juliars plan the steal (has she ever assisted in that before?) money from honest hardworking australians and fought against it ... so at least he knows right from wrong (unlike our dulpicitous pm) The government yesterday was forced to abandon a parliamentary debate of a plan that treats $760 million of unclaimed privately owned superannuation and bank account savings as government revenue by having it paid over to the Australian Taxation Office. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/independent-mps-tony-windsor-and-rob-oakeshott-buck-budget-bills-rush/story-fn59niix-1226508131789 ... but then windsor lost me here ![]() "There is an enormous amount of material going across my desk at the moment and I've made it clear in the past that if the rush is too great and I can't get my head around some of these things then the answer will be no. and still 7 months of it to come lol ... oh well ![]() |
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always best to re-read your posts i guess
afl mate ... all my jibber is generally speaking ... never directed personally (just in case it reads that way) ![]() |
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No worries Thebas..
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AFL...what odds you offering about the Liberals winning by a record landslide at the comming election?
cant wait till the carbon tax is removed and australian borders are patroled ending boat people invasion. gillard removes the $4 billion dental plan in december for struggling australians because of these boat invaders. |
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COUNT THE LIES
Phony Tony Abbott’s Politics of fear. Tony Abbott on Whyalla and the Carbon Tax. ...Whyalla will be wiped off the map by Julia Gillard’s carbon tax. Whyalla risks becoming a ghost town, an economic wasteland, if this carbon tax goes ahead and that’s true not just of Whyalla, it’s also true of Port Pirie, it’s true of Gladstone, it’s true ofcommunities in the Hunter Valley and the Illawarra in New South Wales, it’s true ofKwinana in Western Australia, it’s true of the LaTrobe Valley, Portland, places like that in Victoria. There’s not a state and there’s hardly a region in this country that wouldn’t have major communities devastated by a carbon tax if this goes ahead... Source: Tony Abbott - Liberal Party website - April 27, 2011 Going by that rant....... When Tony Abbott tells us something is true......you can back it in he's lying. .............................................................................. Hang on I better check my map and see if those towns are still there. ![]() He’s a liar. ![]() ............................................................................ Sky News Interview July 29, 2009 I also think that if you want to put a price on carbon, why not just do it with a simple tax? Why not ask motorists to pay more, why not ask electricity consumers to pay more[/b] and then at the end of the year you can take your invoices to the tax office and get a rebate of the carbon tax you've paid. It would be burdensome, all taxes are burdensome, but it would certainly change the price of carbon, raise the price of carbon without increasing in any way the overall burden. This Emissions Trading Scheme is almost impossible to understand. It involves some enormous offsets. It's going to create business opportunities in a product that is not a real product. ................................................................................ .............................................................................. Hang on hasn’t Tony Abbott been running around the country for the last 3 years saying the exact opposite. There must be 2 Tony Abbotts. God help us. Of course…….that’s right…………… it’s Tony Abbott’s BIG LIE. He thinks the Carbon Price is a good thing ……only if he delivers it. ![]() ![]() |
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MORE LIES.......
Tony Abbott lies to the Australian public about the federal regulation of electricity prices. Tony Abbott is at it again. This time Tony Abbott is deliberately misleading the Australian public in regards to the federal regulation of power prices. This is what Tony Abbott had to say while in the Northern Territory, August 8, 2012. Tony Abbott: So, this stunt yesterday from the Prime Minister was just an absolutely brazen piece of political effrontery. They’re federally regulated, electricity power prices. The power prices that we’ve seen have been approved at every step of the way by the Federal Government. These are Julia Gillard’s power price rises. They don’t belong to the state premiers and the fact that the Prime Minister chose to speak as she did yesterday shows that she is both misleading and ignorant and, frankly, that’s the worst kind of conduct from an Australian Prime Minister. "…an absolutely brazen piece of political effrontery" "…have been approved at every step of the way by the Federal Government" "These are Julia Gillard’s power price rises." "…misleading and ignorant and, frankly, that’s the worst kind of conduct from an Australian Prime Minister" The only "brazen piece of political effrontery" are the lies and deception coming from Tony Abbott. Firstly, the Federal Government does NOT set nor regulate electricity power prices. It is the Australian Energy Regulator (AER) that regulates "electricity power prices". The AER is an "independent statutory authority". In other words, it operates independently from the Government, and that is the case whether it's a Labor Government or a Coalition Government. Decisions made by the AER are subject to judicial review by the Federal Court of Australia. NOT the Australian Government. Tony Abbott knows this. But he also knows that most Australians don't know this. Which is why he lies and deceives us. So, how does the AER regulate prices? According to the Sydney Morning Herald: In making its determinations, the AER takes account of the costs the network businesses incur in providing and maintaining the networks. But when power companies don't like the decisions of the AER they can appeal to the Australian Competition Tribunal. Some say this appeals process has been too generous to the power companies. State-based regulators, such as NSW's Independent Pricing and Regulatory Tribunal, are responsible for determining the regulated retail prices (although not all states regulate prices). http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/sparking-conflict-wont-bring-elec... So when Tony Abbott says: "…have been approved at every step of the way by the Federal Government" He is lying. When Tony Abbott says: "These are Julia Gillard’s power price rises." He is lying. But most of all, when Tony Abbott says: "…misleading and ignorant and, frankly, that’s the worst kind of conduct from an Australian Prime Minister" He is also lying. Tony Abbott is deliberately misleading and lying to the Australian public. And quite frankly, that's the worst kind of conduct from Tony Abbott. It's what we have come to expect from him. But we should not tolerate it nor accept it. Link to the YouTube version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCT76sqo0bI phonytonyabbottdotcom |
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One Nation co-founder to launch criminal prosecution against Abbott
independentaustraliadotnet Posted by admin in Law, Politics on 19 March, 2013 1:06 am / 75 comments The man who co-founded One Nation, David Ettridge, is set to launch a serious court action against Opposition Leader Tony Abbott over his efforts to destroy them as a political force. Abbott’s actions led to he and co-founder Pauline Hanson ending up in prison for several months in 2003 — before the charges were overturned on appeal. The complaints made by Abbott destroyed One Nation, which at one stage looked set to challenge the Liberals as Australia’s dominant conservative political force. Mr Ettridge says he has been spurred into action because he has great concerns that such an unprincipled person as Tony Abbott could, potentially, become Australia’s next political leader. “I am greatly concerned that … Tony Abbott, a man who had such little regard for the law and the democratic rights of Australians [in 1998] , could become Australia’s next Prime Minister,” said Mr Ettridge, yesterday, in a statement. Mr Ettridge claimed that Abbott had committed several serious offences, including perverting the course of justice, crimes, electoral act infringements and a series of other wrongs. “Mr Abbott acted unlawfully in a number of ways in 1998 when he assisted and encouraged false and malicious litigation against the One Nation Party in the Queensland courts,” he said. “The consequences of his unlawful maintenance of that unfounded litigation resulted in extensive damages that affected me greatly.” Mr Ettridge claimed the offences Abbott alleged were always baseless, but were merely a malicious action to pervert the course of justice and provide political advantage for him and his party. “The false claims that were assisted by the Abbott sponsored litigation were baseless and were never an offence under the Queensland Electoral Act, yet in an effort to pervert the course of Justice, Mr Abbott provided lawyers, a QC and a barrister to propel those false claims through the courts.” “It was a few years later that a thorough investigation by the Queensland Major Fraud Squad advised the Qld DPP that no offence had been committed and recommended the police investigation be dropped.” Mr Ettridge says he will be claiming seven figure damages against Abbott and requesting, through the courts, that the until now secret donors to Tony Abbott’s ‘Australians for Honest Politics Trust’ be at last revealed. David Ettridge “I will be filing a claim against Tony Abbott in the Brisbane Supreme Court seeking damages in excess of $1.5 million,” said Mr Ettridge. “I will also be asking the court to compel Mr Abbott to release the names of the people who contributed to Mr Abbott’s ‘Australians for Honest Politics Trust’, so the trust can be fully examined for whatever contribution it made to any unlawful activity at that time,” he said. “I will be alleging that those donors became co-conspirators in Mr Abbott’s unlawful actions and must also be held accountable. “Mr Abbott has closely guarded and never released details of this slush fund and was treated very lightly at the time by the Australian Electoral Commission who never pursued him to reveal such information. “The slush fund was quite obviously an associated entity of the Liberal Party and its conduct was limited to only attacking the One Nation Party, thus providing a benefit to the Liberal Party. ‘It also is possible that corruption could have existed between Mr Abbott and those trust donors who could have received or expected favours from the Howard Liberal Government at the time.” “Until a full public disclosure and examination occurs, the question of corruption remains a possibility,” said Mr Ettridge. For more details on this story, please read David Ettridge’s full media release. You can also see his legal claim here. (Read more about Tony Abbott’s slushy character question by clicking here. If you would who would like to offer some much needed assistance to David Ettridge in his forthcoming legal battle against Tony Abbott, please email him here: davett@bigpond.com.) This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Australia License |
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If this happens will Abbott accept his own vote........you know because he is tainted if Ettridge follows through....just like Slipper and Thompson were according to Abbott? Before any criminal prosecution outcomes.
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If it was Gillard instead of Abbott....the Murdoch Mafia and the shock jocks and the MSM would be all over it.
Strange how it didn't get a mention .....not. |
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Worst thread ever.
Can you please explain again why Abbott should be sacked?? i'm sure everyone interested in hearing your biased views again. Juliar is the biggest liar and deciever in politics. end of story |
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Agree Kye, he might become the longest serving opposittion lead of all time
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Libs move to axe Abbott after poll shock
Posted by admin in Politics, Satire on 26 March, 2013 2:35 pm / 12 comments independentaustraliadotnet Today’s horror Newspoll for Tony Abbott could spell the end for his opposition leadership say to Coalition insiders. Alan Austin reports. TODAY’S HORRIFIC opinion polling for Tony Abbott has forced moves to replace him as federal Opposition leader. “We have no choice,” a prominent Coalition powerbroker told journalists in a private backgrounder. “We must act now. Going to an election with Tony would be suicide.” Newspoll today shows Abbott’s personal approval still only 39 per cent, despite having risen 11 points since December. This continues the run of negative poll results since Abbott narrowly beat Malcolm Turnbull for the Liberal Party leadership in 2009. That vote was 42 – 41. Turnbull’s approval remains above 60 per cent. “Tony’s numbers are disastrous,” a senior Liberal Party strategist admitted. “Never been above 40 per cent. And that’s with all the media constantly pumping him and bagging Julia.” The strategist concedes that on current polling the Government would win the September election if Abbott remains Opposition leader. “Keating won in 1993 from a worse position than Gillard’s now,” he said. “And the little lying rodent won in 2001 from even further behind.” “Abbo is a nice bloke,” said a Coalition frontbencher who declined to be named. “He got Fairfax in lockstep with Murdoch by promising whatever media laws they want. And the ABC is giving us an incredible run. God knows what he promised them. So kudos to Abbo for that. But we can’t expect the media to conceal the fact forever — the guy has no policy clue. “Sooner or later, someone’s going to read his book,” the frontbencher said. “Talk about falsehoods and fantasy! I don’t know who wrote it. But he didn’t get a fact right.” “If Laurie Oakes or Paul Syvret found it, they’d rip it to shreds. We’ve begged him to take it off the website.” A source close to the Shadow Treasurer agrees. “If you think Joe Hockey is an economics moron (don’t quote me on that, will you?) just look at what Abbott says. I mean, everything about tax is wrong, everything on growth and productivity is wrong. It’s like he’s never read a briefing paper in his life.” “Eventually someone’s going to notice the economy,” the source said. “We can only lie about that for so long. Reality will dawn — Australia’s books are the best in the world. By a street. The media all keep trying to credit Costello. But the punters won’t buy that forever.” A National Party shadow minister in a marginal country seat confirmed the move is on. “Gotta face it,” he said. “We can’t win with Tony. He’s not just a policy buffoon but a compulsive liar. Switch now and we have a chance.” The frontbencher said the continual falsehoods were a central problem to conservative rural voters. “Like when he denied meeting George Pell. Stone the crows! And denying he organised the anti-Pauline Hanson slush fund. Geez, that’s going to bite us on the bum. His crazy claim he won’t do deals to gain office. Strewth! His lies about the carbon tax. His insane idea that China’s CO2 emissions would increase 500 per cent. His stupid porkies about why he didn’t visit the troops in Afghanistan with Julia. The ridiculous claim that BHP deferred Olympic Dam due to taxes. His absurd insult to all our allies that ‘the rest of the world was not going anywhere near emission trading schemes.’ Calling asylum seekers ‘illegals’. And his lies about Government spending. Fair dinkum! They just keep on coming.” “Tony’s a good mate,” the shadow minister said. “Just no integrity. This is all off the record, by the way.” According to another Coalition insider, the move could come as early as next week. “We are just waiting for Tony to go overseas. Like the Country Libs in the Northern Territory.” Asked if he believed the switch to Malcolm Turnbull would be a positive, the insider said, “Anyone but Abbott. But you didn’t hear it from me. “Look, we gave him a go. Got in front in the polls for a while. But let’s face it. There’s only one reason for that — the media continually concocting stories about the Gillard Government with fabricated quotes attributed to anonymous sources.” |
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Nothing better to do today AFL? ffs mate
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The Newspoll also shows Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has firmed his preferred prime minister rating, up five points to 43, while the Prime Minister's rating has dropped to 35 points, its lowest level since 2011.
oh dear poor Juliar. perhaps she should go back to Western Sydney & tell them more lies about Abbott reducing the tax free threshold. |
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they will not reduce the tax free threshold - it will be abolished
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Perhaps Abbott can go back to western Sydney and be upfront about how much he is going to rip off pensioners.......its at least 500 bucks and counting.
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Keep making stuff up. Your as bad as the highly unpopular Juliar
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Basically he will not do a live interview..unless its about foreigners storming our shores,white Aussies love that..the only way he can lose is if he says something stupid,which is highly possible..so the pple pulling the strings will keep his mouth shut
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Kye posted............Worst thread ever.
Can you please explain again why Abbott should be sacked?? i'm sure everyone interested in hearing your biased views again. Juliar is the biggest liar and deciever in politics. end of story. ............................................................ Here's why he should be sacked..... Australian Independent Media Network theaimndotcom He said them ......if he is elected he will the most disgusting politician to hold the office of Prime Minister in our history. It’s still ‘never’ The polls suggest that Tony Abbott is close to getting his little grubby hands on the keys to The Lodge. The keys, then, will be in the wrong hands. In January we posted an article written by John Lord and myself (80/20) titled Never with the argument of why Tony Abbott should not make it to The Lodge. We are committed to keeping him out. Hence, we have decided to re-run that post at regular intervals between now and the election as we attract new readers and hopefully, have our message widely spread. An Abbott in the Lodge – Never David Marr’s quarterly essay “Political Animal” gives an engrossing, even gripping insight into the persona of the leader of the Opposition, Tony Abbott. I made many observations as I read it and I cannot of course comment on everything. I must say though (given Tony Abbot’s statement that he finds gays intimidating) that I was a little bemused at how Marr even got to interview him. They apparently spent some time together which must have been excruciatingly uncomfortable for the Opposition leader. And given that Mr Abbott only allowed him to use one quote I should think he probably wasted his time. Another thing that took my attention was the influence of Catholicism in his private and political decision making. He apparently finds it difficult to make decisions without referral to his faith. What did catch my eye was this short paragraph: “Josh Gordon of the Sunday Age saw the parallels early. Like the Republicans in the US the Coalition’s new strategy appears to be to block, discredit, confuse, attack and hamper at every opportunity.” Do we see any similarities here? Well of course. On a daily basis the negativity of Abbott spreads like rust through the community. He seeks to confuse with the most outlandish statements. Hardly a day passes without referring to the Prime minister as a liar while at the same time telling the most outrageous ones himself. And with a straight face I might add. He seeks to hamper (as do the Republicans) all legislation with a pre-determined NO. Often without even reading it. Abbott has (as have Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan) taken lying and the frequency of it to a level in political discourse we have never experienced. In the US the Republicans with all this propaganda have sought to create a fictional President who is the opposite to the one known outside the States. Twenty five per cent of the population still believe he is a Muslim and a large percentage still believe he was born outside the States even though the facts prove otherwise. Such is the power of the right-wing media (Fox News) and an accumulation of feral shock jocks. The GOP (the Republicans – the “Grand Old Party”) is even accused of deliberately not passing bills in order to make the economy worse. In Australia, for two years the Prime Minister has been demonised by a right wing (Murdoch) news media pack intent on creating a false profile and bringing her down at the first opportunity. She has had thrown at her the most vile misogynist ravings un-befitting of the fourth estate but the tabloids and the shock jocks seem to thrive on it. At this point (since we are talking in part about truth) let me say that I would describe myself as progressive social democrat. Centre-left on some issues and further left on others. I confess this so as not to be accused later of any preconceived bias. I am the originator of this quote “to be a true democrat one has to concede that your opponents have as much right to win as does your side”; I wrote that prior to the advent of this nefarious thing called neo conservatism or neo capitalism. I wrote it at a time when the political divide (despite the ideological differences) had some respect for the common good; when we in Australia admired America’s bi-partisan approach to its politics. The decline of bi-partisan politics and the rise of neo conservatism can be traced back to a third rate actor and a women with a bad hair-do. And in time respect for public office has gone out the window. Regardless of what political persuasion you are I believe we like to see character in our leaders. Now how do we describe character. I came across this in the New York Times; it is a direct reference to Mitt Romney, however, it suffices as a general observation: “Character is a combination of traits that etch the outlines of a life, governing moral choices and infusing personal and professional conduct. It’s an elusive thing, easily cloaked or submerged by the theatrics of a presidential campaign, but unexpected moments can sometimes reveal the fibers from which it is woven.” When looked in isolation the lies and indiscretions of Tony Abbott, his problems with women and even his negativity could perhaps all be written off as just Tony being Tony. Or that’s just politics. However my focus here is on character and whether Mr Abbott has enough of it to be the leader of our nation. My contention is that because we are looking at a litany of instances of lying, deception and bad behaviour over a long period of time he simply doesn’t have the essence of character which is one of the main ingredients in the recipe of leadership. The evidence for this assertion follows. None of these events are in chronological order. They are just as they come to mind and are listed randomly in order to build a character profile. When the President of the US visited he broke long standing conventions by politicising his speech as Opposition leader. He did the same when the Indonesian president visited. He did the same when the Queen visited. He would not allow pairs (another long standing convention) so that the Minister for the Arts could attend the funeral of painter Margaret Olley; an Australian icon. Malcolm Turnbull, a personnel friend was also prevented from attending. There have been other instances of not allowing pairs. More recently he refused a pair whilst the Prime Minister was on bereavement leave following the death of her father. At university he kicked in a glass panel door when defeated in an election. Referred to a women Chairperson as “Chairthing”. He was accused of assaulting a women at university and later acquitted. He was defended by a QC and the girl defended herself. Another women accuses him of throwing punches at her. And hitting either side of a wall she was standing against. He says it never happened but others corroborated her story. He threatens to punch the head in of Lindsay Foyle who disagreed with him on a women’s right to an abortion. In 1978 a young teacher by the name of Peter Woof bought assault charges against Abbott. He punched him in the face. It never went anywhere. Abbott was represented by a legal team of six and the young man could not afford to defend himself. And he did punch out Joe Hockey’s lights during a rugby match? Yes, he did. He established a slush fund to bring down Pauline Hansen and then lied about its existence. And let’s not forget the role he played also in the jailing of Pauline Hanson. After One Nation shocked the Coalition by winning 11 seats in Queensland in June 1998, Abbott was determined to dig up every piece of dirt he could on Hanson. In his own words, on her demise he boasts this was: “All my doing, for better or for worse. It has got Tony Abbott’s fingerprints on it and no-one else’s.” Yes, even after saying that, he still lies about its existence. He was ejected from the House of Representatives once in obscure circumstances. Hansard is unclear why but it is alleged that he physically threatened Graham Edwards. Edwards lost both his legs in Vietnam. In 2000 he was ejected from the House along with six others. Philip Coorey reports that he was headed toward the Labor back benches ready to thump a member who had heckled him. Abused Nicola Roxon after he had turned up late for a debate. Then there was the interview with Mark Riley where he had a brain fade that seemed like it would never end. I thought he was deciding between a right hook or a left cross. Something that I found mentally disturbing and worrying at the same time. After all this was the man who could be our next Prime Minister. Together with Christopher Pyne seen running from the House of Representatives to avoid embarrassment at being outwitted. Being the first Opposition leader to be ejected from the house in 26 years because he repeated an accusation of lying after withdrawing it. The infamous “Sell my arse” statement verified by Tony Windsor. Will Windsor ever release the mobile phone transcript? The interview with Kerry O’Brien where he admitted that unless it was in writing he didn’t always tell the truth. And in another O’Brien interview he admitted lying about a meeting with the Catholic Archbishop George Pell. During the Republic Referendum he told many outrageous untruths. His famous “Climate change is crap” comment and later saying that he was speaking to an audience. This of course elicited the question: “Is that what you always do?” His almost daily visits to businesses with messages of gloom and doom about the ‘carbon tax’ (a scare campaign best described as fraudulent). None of which have come to fruition. His blatant lying often repudiated by the management of the businesses. The most notable being the CEO of BHP and their decision not to proceed with the Olympic Dam mine. Whole towns being closed down. Industries being forced to sack thousands. The end of the coal industry etc. And of course there is the now infamous Leigh Sales interview where beyond any doubt he lied three times and continued to do so in Parliament the next day. Then there was his statement that the Aboriginal Tent Embassy near Old Parliament House be closed. To call his statement an error in judgement is too kind. It almost sounded like an incitement to riot. He is quoted as saying in the Parliament that Prime Minister Gillard and Minister Albanese had targets on their heads. He later apologised. And of course there is also the lie about asylum seekers being illegal. Added to that is his statement that the PM refused to lay down and die. And the deliberate lie he told to the Australian Minerals Council that the Chinese intended increasing their emissions by 500 per cent. I think I have exhausted it all but I cannot be sure. Oh wait. We should not leave out his insensitive comments about the attempted suicide of John Brogden. I used to think that John Howard was a mean-spirited, nasty piece of work, but in comparison to Tony Abbott he appears as kind, caring and compassionate as Mother Teresa. Tony Abbott is far, far more mean-spirited. He demonstrates this in the way he ignores human misery and the way he belittles those who are suffering from it. He is, in a nutshell, nasty to the core. Stories surface that he’s been inherently nasty for as long as people have known him, but it wasn’t until 2005 that I first took notice of his extreme level of nastiness and lack of compassion for human misery when it was hoisted onto the national stage. It came only hours after the NSW Leader of the Opposition, John Brogden, had attempted suicide. The Age reported at the time that: The day after Mr Brogden was found unconscious in his electorate office with self-inflicted wounds, Mr Abbott publicly joked at two separate Liberal Party functions about the disgraced leader’s career-wrecking behaviour . . . Mr Abbott was asked at a fund-raising lunch about a particular health reform proposal and reportedly answered: “If we did that, we would be as dead as the former Liberal leader’s political prospects.” Nasty. To the core. And to a mate. He also claimed that Bernie Banton was a mate. Not that he acted like one. When Abbott was the Minister for Health, the dying asbestos disease sufferer Bernie Banton obtained a petition containing 17,000 signatures of those who supported the listing of the mesothelioma drug Alimta on the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme. This petition was to be presented in person to Tony Abbott. If it wasn’t disrespectful enough to snub the petition, then his verbal response certainly was. Yesterday, Mr Abbott was quick to dismiss the petition. “It was a stunt,” Mr Abbott said on the Nine Network. “I know Bernie is very sick, but just because a person is sick doesn’t necessarily mean that he is pure of heart in all things.” He loves making fun of dying people. Does he expect we’ll all laugh along with him? He even has a go at deceased people. Margaret Whitlam wasn’t even in the grave before Tony Abbott used her death to score cheap political points. The death of Margaret Whitlam caused such an outpouring of saddened fondness that comments by the Opposition Leader, Tony Abbott, linking her passing with the sins of the Whitlam government appear to have struck an extremely wrong note. He said she was a ”woman of style and substance” and ”a marvellous consort to a very significant Labor leader and an epochal Australian prime minister”. ”There was a lot wrong with the Whitlam Government but nevertheless, it was a very significant episode in our history and Margaret Whitlam was a very significant element in the political success of Gough Whitlam,” Mr Abbott said. Nasty. To the core. If politics is fundamentally about ideas it is also about leadership. In this piece I have deliberately steered clear of policy argument in order to concentrate on character. On three occasions I have invited people on Facebook to list five attributes of Tony Abbott that would warrant his election as Prime Minister of Australia. I have never received a reply. And when you look at the aforementioned list is it any wonder. He is simply bereft of any character at all. He has been described as the Mad Monk and many other things but essentially he is a repugnant gutter politician of the worst kind. In following the American Republican party’s example his shock and awe tactics associated with perpetual crisis has done nothing but degenerate the standard of Australian politics and the Parliament generally. In the public eye he is most effective in attack dog mode. However he is found wanting when he needs to defend himself and simply reverts to stuttering hesitation and lies. Or just walking out on press conferences when he stumbles over tough questions. This is particularly noticeable when he tries to explain the complexity of policy detail. The future of this country is of vital importance. So much so that its leadership should never be entrusted to a politician of such little virtue and character. A man who has failed to articulate a narrative for Australia’s future other than a personal desire to occupy The Lodge. Given his performance of late he would do well to consider these words: Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. It’s easy to understand what Abbott says because he only speaks in slogans. The difficulty is knowing what he means. I have used this line in one of my short stories and it aptly sums up the character of Honourable Leader of Her Majesty’s loyal Opposition. As he spoke, truth came from the beginning of a smile or was it just a sneer of deception. Please note, this was written prior to the Prime Minister’s now famous ‘sexist speech’ and does not include these snippets of Tonyisms. His dying of shame comment. His “lack of experience in raising children” comment. His “make an honest women of herself ” comment. His “no doesn’t mean no” comment. 1. “Jesus knew that there was a place for everything and it’s not necessarily everyone’s place to come to Australia.” 2. “These people aren’t so much seeking asylum, they’re seeking permanent residency. If they were happy with temporary protection visas, then they might be able to argue better that they were asylum seekers”. On rights at work: 3. “If we’re honest, most of us would accept that a bad boss is a little bit like a bad father or a bad husband . . . you find that he tends to do more good than harm. He might be a bad boss but at least he’s employing someone while he is in fact a boss”. On women: 4. “The problem with the Australian practice of abortion is that an objectively grave matter has been reduced to a question of the mother’s convenience”. 5. “I think it would be folly to expect that women will ever dominate or even approach equal representation in a large number of areas simply because their aptitudes, abilities and interests are different for physiological reasons”. 6. “I think there does need to be give and take on both sides, and this idea that sex is kind of a woman’s right to absolutely withhold, just as the idea that sex is a man’s right to demand I think they are both they both need to be moderated, so to speak”. 7. “What the housewives of Australia need to understand as they do the ironing is that if they get it done commercially it’s going to go up in price and their own power bills when they switch the iron on are going to go up, every year . . .” On Julia Gillard: 8. “Gillard won’t lie down and die”. On climate change: 9. “Climate change is absolute crap”. 10. “If you want to put a price on carbon why not just do it with a simple tax”. On homosexuality: 11. “I’d probably . . . I feel a bit threatened”. 12. “If you’d asked me for advice I would have said to have – adopt a sort of “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy about all of these things . . . “ On Indigenous Australia: 13. “Now, I know that there are some Aboriginal people who aren’t happy with Australia Day. For them it remains Invasion Day. I think a better view is the view of Noel Pearson, who has said that Aboriginal people have much to celebrate in this country’s British Heritage”. 14. ‘”Western civilisation came to this country in 1788 and I’m proud of that . . .” 15. “There may not be a great job for them but whatever there is, they just have to do it, and if it’s picking up rubbish around the community, it just has to be done”. On Nicola Roxon: 16: “That’s bullshit. You’re being deliberately unpleasant. I suppose you can’t help yourself, can you?” I could go on. History is filled with examples of how low this man is; of how nasty he is. I fear that we may not yet have seen the full extent of his nastiness. We might have to wait – God forbid – for the day he ever becomes Prime Minister. It’ll be nasty for all of us. .................................................................. |
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AFL, can you explain in a bit more detail. i still don't follow
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I'm surprised that there hasn't been as much leadership turmoil on the liberal side as on the labour. Maybe libs just think they'll win regardless and it doesn't matter how crap abbott is. Turnball would be a better option.
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if the polls are to be believed ... the nation will merely be ... voting the liar ... OUT ... rather than voting the libs IN
but the Labor machine can't see this for some reason Labor's collective blindness pretty much determines they are therefore not suitable to lead the country ... imo if it's a wash out to the Libs ... and our country is left without a viable opposition ... then it is to her final shame being the 'one who wielded the knife of division' within her own party |
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abott becoming PM would be like Mitt Romney becoming Pres
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are the yanks better off with obama .. only time will tell
Monsanto Protection Act The President did nothing to stop it, either. On Tuesday, Obama signed HR 933 while the rest of the nation was fixated on gay marriage, as the U.S. Supreme Court heard oral argument concerning California’s Proposition 8. But just because most of the nation and the media were paying attention to gay marriage doesn’t mean that others were not doing their best to express their opposition to the “Monsanto Protection Act.” In fact, more than 250,000 voters signed a petition opposing the provision. And Food Democracy Now protesters even took their fight straight to Obama, protesting in front of the White House against Section 735 of the bill. He signed it anyway. ******** 1.) The "Monsanto Protection Act" effectively bars federal courts from being able to halt the sale or planting of controversial genetically modified (aka GMO) or genetically engineered (GE) seeds, no matter what health issues may arise concerning GMOs in the future. http://www.ibtimes.com/monsanto-protection-act-5-terrifying-things-know-about-hr-933-provision-1156079 .... the good 'ol U ess of A |
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Swan praises 'gold-plated' Aust economy
AAP – Fri, Mar 29, 2013 1:33 PM AEDT.. . Federal Treasurer Wayne Swan has hailed the resilience of Australia's economy after global ratings agency Fitch confirmed its "gold-plated" AAA credit rating. Australia is now one of only eight members of the "9As Club" - countries with the highly sought after AAA rating, with a stable outlook, from all three global agencies - S&P, Fitch and Moody's. "Despite the ridiculous scare campaigns we've seen on the economy this week from the opposition, being an elite member of The 9As Club shows the resilience of Australia's economy," Mr Swan said in a statement on Friday. "No Liberal government has ever achieved this coveted trifecta from all three global ratings agencies." Labor had ensured Australia avoided recession during the global financial crisis, Mr Swan said. The economy had grown by more than 13 per cent since Labor came to office in 2007, he said, and more than 900,000 jobs had been added while tens of millions had been lost around the world. The government's fiscal consolidation had given the Reserve Bank more room to run lower rates by helping to keep inflation contained, alongside low unemployment and solid economic growth. "Getting the big economic calls right over the last five years and continuing our responsible budget management has put Australia in a strong position to grasp the opportunities of the future," Mr Swan said. Fitch Ratings said Australia had remained one of the strongest performing economies since the global financial crisis began. "Australia has built up the capacity to absorb shocks due to a combination of low public debt, a free floating exchange rate and liberal trade and labour markets," the agency said. This allowed authorities to run strong countercyclical policies during downturns, and the economy to adjust. Fitch said its rating assumed Australia's high level of political stability and governance was maintained, supporting the country's "attractive business climate". The global pool of government bonds with triple A status, the bedrock of the financial system, has shrunk more than 60 per cent since the financial crisis triggered a wave of downgrades across the advanced economies. Financial Times analysts say the expulsion of the US, the UK and France from the 9As club has led to a contraction in the stock of government bonds deemed the safest, from almost $US11 trillion at the start of 2007 to just $4 trillion now. They say the shrinkage, largely a result of America's downgrade by S&P in 2011, is part of a dramatic redrawing of the world credit ratings map. Topping the list in the scale of credit upgrades since January 2007 are Uruguay, Bolivia and Brazil. The biggest downgrades were in crisis-hit southern Europe, mainly Greece. .. |
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... countries with the highly sought after AAA rating, with a stable outlook, from all three global agencies - S&P, Fitch and Moody's.
weren't they the credit agencies that got it wrong in the sub-prime fiasco that led to the GFC ? ![]() http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/feb/15/credit-ratings-agencies-moodys In the run-up to 2008, a staggering proportion of mortgage-based debts were rated AAA, when in fact they were junk. The same goes for groups such as Enron, Lehman Brothers and AIG. Days before they went bust, Moody's, S&P, and Fitch all still rated these failing companies as safe investments. Shockingly, more than half of all corporate debt ever rated AAA by S&P has been downgraded within seven years, according to research by economist Sukhdev Johal. *** like you AFL i think australia is in a very good position compared to the rest of the west ... good on you Libs & Labor for that ... we've got about 4 years now by my layman reckoning to hold our head above water ... but with blackstone holding most of our debt (bonds) as you reported and the ratings agencies giving us the thumbs up ... it might only point the 'global thieving rorters' in our direction to take some plunder from our shores ... we're vulnerable ![]() |