Damien Oliver banned for slow ride on Elite Elle at Moonee Valley

no it's not another way of saying "pulling one up". he pushed forward and then grabbed hold abruptly and alledgedly interfered with a couple of horses behind him.

looked like he tried to snatch the lead early
then the horse underneath him was going too well
so he grabbed hold to sit off the leader in 2nd possie
stewards say that caused a shuffle up behind

if he gets done for this
then stewards on sydney metro racing should apply the very same rules
and many of the cartel will be sitting on the sidelines there than riding 

there is more 'stacking up' of a field ... once getting to the front in sydney
than anywhere in the world i would venture to say

why is there one rule for vic and another for nsw ?

I didn't see the race but it sounds like the exact opposite of pulling a horse up. A rider on a front runner will often try to set as farcical a pace as possible and then sprint away from them, leaving the sprint as late as possible. Fair tactics in my opinion, unless of course he slows the field so abruptly that he causes interference to other runners, which is possibly what Ollie may have done.

it also may be setting up another horse in the race phil.......which is more likely

Can't really see that, logroller. It's usually the ones who go suicidally fast up front that set the race up for a horse back in the field. Especially if they're racing contrary to their normal pattern and taking on a recognized front-runner.

Maybe the Jockey Tapes have come back.
Ill never forget a story a G1 Jockey told me how he was in the stands swearing on a Bible then they started to play the tapes.
He couldnt say anything took the wrap for several other Jockeys.
This story could get bigger.

nothing shifty in this instance for damian .. they should still have a look at similar practices in sydney metro racing off carnival when the pace cartel have this activity down to a tee (but with the leader - not with a horse that can't find the lead)

chief steward is an ego maniac if Oliver continues on at similar pace they could've turned around and charged him  with riding in a uncompetitive manner or something along those lines, I havent had a good look at it but it's nothing you wouldn't see at least several times per meeting. Without even looking at the replay I would suggest oliver would probably get off on appeal or at least have the duration of the suspension reduced.

spot on lets ... sky had announced about 5 minutes before i posted that damian was let off the charge

the replay showed oliver had a shot at leading .. couldn't cross .. so reined his mount in ... the stewards suggested he caused interference behind him by doing so ... no one i saw was reefing and yanking to avoid falling but i might stand corrected on another viewing angle

in sydney metro only that i am aware ... can a jock be charged for going 'too hard' too early (and not running a place)
this all started when robbo on a hawkes runner attempted to 'bust' the jock pace cartel in sydney ... where the race leader was getting away with murder in a race where i could have walked quicker early

robbo got 6 months i think after the stable (i believe) of the soft leader lodged a complaint either verbally or officially with the stewards (again i can be corrected on this - it was quite a few years ago)

since then the sydney stewards de facto have given the 'green light' to sydney metro races being run at a farcical pace thus giving the leaders a greater than normal advantage

in melbourne it appears the stewards have a penchant for expecting "the exact opposite" to occur ... to what is occuring off carnival time in sydney

how 2 major australian states can have stewards interpreting race pace "completely the opposite" is quite mystifiying to me

yes thebas, the number of tearaways that happen at sandown midweekers is astonishing. Every second race has a vo rogue impersonator setting up a four or five length lead and ultimately running a tailed off porthole. Class jockeys like williams, dunn, olly etc all do it and because of who they are... never get questioned !! OK your horse was a leader.... but ffs... sprinting it up the hill and setting up a six length lead going into the home straight ????

I did tell you all u will hear More.
But wait the Big one is Coming soon.

Oliver supposedly had 10,000 on a rival in a race

if guilty will get 10 years

as i wrote elsewhere it was one week after the other nasty rumours started to surface

thankfully they went nowhere but the timing is certainly a coincidence

yeah had forgot those rumours.

conincidence ?

maybe not!!

agree

looking for a scape goat imo,

his career over now

imo deep underneath he most possibly have knocked a bad deal amost like a boxer knocking one fall
only possible way of a rumour spread

imo opinoion oliver took falll once, then mabye rebelled and this is his punishement

career
over

I see it like this, he is a boxer asked to take the fall he did it once,

i recond and i'd put money he asked to do it again he refused

the power that thems underground be leaked it

destroyed him now

you are either in or out

I would put absolute money he was approched for the bet, like a boxer

denied the next bet

and career destroyed

u would put money on asket to throw another ride he wouldent do it

thats the problem

play one game caught in it

Say hello to ya brother Mike for me. 

the depth of it could be unfathomable .... if you consider the possibility that RVL are only getting what the task force know will be eventually be given up in a future court of law as evidence from the box ..and so is reasonably announceable to the public via RVL. just a thought.

the months and months of phone taps and bugs after the Samba murder are starting to uncover some pretty ugly practises within the gambling/racing industry

Lloydy Trots Man - I am intrigued as to what you mean by The Big One is coming

do you mean there will be another and much bigger allegation against Oliver?

No Its they've finally found out what the pastie man has been putting in his pasties

gardenstar you have me baffled, i do not know who's the pastie man

Happy as the Master would say. Stay Tuned.....
Whistle-blower May be involved.

But i will remain anonymous and i know nothing.
Everybody says the Trots are the Cheats. Gallops is MUCH bigger. More People Rorted in Gallopers than any other Gambling.
I only bet on the Trots and have horses with a Stable that is out there to win every Race.
Even a CO Country race if the Driver hasnt Driven the horse well they Cop a Spray no matter who they are and get a Spell.

I also Dont mind betting HK Gallops when i get the Sheets from No 1 Punter in HK that spend 2Mill+ au a race and have the World record Collect in the Tripple Treble. His Sheets are Gold



Pastieman is a Living Legend at Globe Derby. Last i heard the council tried to Bar him.
He is just trying to make an Earn.

Think I may have seen the Pastie man at Morphettville races a few weeks ago?

Lloyd - you also said that somebudy had tested positive for the 3rd time in the AFL?

*somebody

The life and times of the Pastie Man is a far bigger story than any of this other ****

Dark i never said Said Somebody.
I said there was a HUGE Rumour going around the Trots.
It was all over Media next day.
I never named the person, i just said i heard a rumour.

I hope they catch all the Corrupt people out there.