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AFL GRAND FINAL HAW V SYD
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they got beat Ad
so in way you was both wrong  |
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Well done Swans and backers. Great team. Hawks best team of 2012 but not best team in September. Goes that way sometimes and they were on the other side of that coin in 2008.
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Nick I am happy to admit that.
When you look at the last two weeks they 40 more inside fifties in total than their opposition and lost on aggregate over the weeks. They clearly were not mentally strong enough to convert. Happy to admit they have not proven to be as good this year as I thought they were. Certainly more accurate than the other boso though who was taking the easy option given that they were not even in the 8 when he was saying that |
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yes agree, they would be very disappointed with there effort today
there bottom half dozen got showed up big time today |
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Adelaide would have been a better finalist
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They were definitely in the eight when I made those comments they were 3.5 favourites at the time so dont try to pass off that rubbish AD.
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You can't admit you were clearly wrong and I that I was more accurate in my assessment of them than you. If they were 3.5 at the time and that was unders, how did they trade at 4's on then?
You can't give any credit which is clearly why you are an amateur at this caper by your own admission |
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like i said sydney wins !!
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The point I was trying make AD is why tie up your money for 3 months at 3.5 which was unders when you could have made a hell of a lot more and still had your money by backing them in selected individual games with far less risk. I can understand it if you're tying up money at something like 10's 12's, 14's etc but 3.5 was rock bottom odds at the time for what was an extremely open season.
It was a pointless exercise especially when I'm certain you would have got the same price at some stage today in he run during the Grand Final about the hawks. Therefore 3.5 for tying up your money for that time period was a poor bet. I would have thought that was self evident without having to explain the reasoning behind it. In several games before the end of the season they would have traded at better than the 3.5 for the flag in the run during the betting of an individual game including the game in sydney several weeks before the end of the season. The fact of the matter is they were poor value at the time and you declared them superior but now refuse to concede that you were in fact wrong, last time I checked you can't eat value especially a price about a team that clearly wasn't value when you could have got that price about them during an individual game and collected without tying up a large sum for months on end. |
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But Lets the 3.5 may have been necessary to balance a book. There is a team/player in pretty much every market that the market loves - Tiger Woods, Djokovic, Miami Heat etc. where you will never get a big price and in order to have them covered you might have to take a 3.5. It never went above that until the GF (as far as I am aware) so I'm not sure how you can suggest it was a poor buy for those who partook. You could easily argue the 3.5 was a better price back then than it was in running during the GF.
Taking Hawthorn at 3.5 was definetely not a pointless exercise. |
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If you had invested say 500 at 3.5 on the hawks rhino at that time you could easily made more on that 500 by backing the hawks in selected games including the geelong and sydney games and traded out on each occasion for plenty and then done the same in the finals and in the grand final without tying up your investment of 500 for three plus months.
Even if you were having a big bet I don't know say 20k and intended to use that position to be able to trade during the GF you would have still been better off using that 20k to operate with on the hawks during the regular season and the finals themselves again without tying up your stake for 3 months or more. |
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it's an irrelevant argument Lets. For those trading the GF market with a sensible approach the Hawks had to be covered. Their week to week price is a separate issue, the amount of money to be made backing week to week has nothing to do with the long term market.
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swans won , because , well it was a factor i took in previous years form of the crws into account
its fantastic they got that far, but you can't deny they were 2 years 3 years 4 years ago couldn't win a game i took that into account hawks should of won by a mile, i think next year would be be better for the crows they are like a rising filly , to many losses in that camp, sorry but the crows background isn't good but they are a rising filly next year would be better off backing them was an easy bet imo sydney loaded up :) |
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Fark you AD I was right they weren't good enough and have been proven to not be the best team in the comp, you constantly tried to be a smart arse when I put forward a logical argument why they weren't superior and guess what I've been proven correct as the flaws in their team, the same ones I highlighted time and time again were exposed big time today.
No excuses, you were wrong and I was right end of story. Like I said my whole point was which should be self evident without having to explain it to someone of your "abundant" knowledge is that they were bad value because you could do so much better if you believed in them by continuing to back them with your original stake during the season and the finals without tying up the same amount for three months plus even for a proven simpleton such as yourself surely that has to be self explanatory. AD you then have the audacity to call me a liar and stupid, Go crawl back under whichever gutter you slithered out from, meanwhile I'll continue to count my money from laying that "superior" side, the hawks.  |
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does everyone have to argue in this damn place, it doesn't compute with me seriously
we enjoy tip wins , and should back oh okay a bit off losses why argue? |
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lol looks like only one of us can concede what we got wrong. You were so far off the mark in what you said about them a month in to the season it is laughable, now you are trying to spin you are right.
You never said anything about staking you are only making that up now to backpeddle and look for an angle. Unlike you to aftertime! Not one comment of yours months ago had anything to do with staking. After that game in Perth you said they were no good, truth is you had no foresight at all. They traded at 4's on (maybe even shorter I don't know), you were not even close to be being right, as usual |
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in terms of logic the only reason any of you could argue is if you are 100 percent right
logic , which you arnt so why argue about percentages of anything sorry but i see arguments and i dont understand them i had someone cal lme a retard, yet dont annoy me found it strange of course this is my first experience in a forum these things just dont comput to me why are you arguing it makes no sense at all to me how can you make a forum become personal on sunrise that chick went into hospital, i been on her a few months i've had like a couple of attacks lately but dont effect me it seems like everyone gets fired up apart from me lol your on a computer typing stuff ? all that matters is you have your hot chick next to you drinking cocktails, imo you win the bet or you dont |
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the only conclusion i can come to is you are not enjoying yoru life or something?
as i said my first forum, lik ethat chick that was on sunrise went into hospital why are you people arguing like this? like calling names and all that like why on earth would you even care if someon called you a lier on a forum? i seriously dont get it? |
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Winners are grinners and losers can please themselves. Your the one who is supposed to be the all knowing punting guru why should I have to explain the logic of why I said they were unders to an "expert" such as yourself, I made the statement I consistently stood by it and I was correct, end of story. If you couldn't figure out or comprehend the logic behind my statement about the hawks being unders that's your problem and maybe you're not the all knowing guru you think you are. Unlike you I don't claim to be a punting guru, just a good judge. |
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Now that the season is over, I think some forumites should consider investing some time " on the couch ".
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Anybody know what Odds Sewell went to on Norm Smith.
I had my Bet matched at $2 so i doubled my Money and made something. 2012-09-29 17:25 2225395823 2012-09-28 00:58 Grand Final - 29 September Hawthorn v Sydney / Norm Smith Medal / Brad Sewell Lay 2.00 320.00 Won 320.00 351.00 2012-09-29 17:25 2219853699 2012-09-24 23:20 Grand Final - 29 September Hawthorn v Sydney / Norm Smith Medal / Brad Sewell Back 15.00 90.00 Lost (90.00) 31.00 2012-09-29 17:25 2219853303 2012-09-24 23:12 Grand Final - 29 September Hawthorn v Sydney / Norm Smith Medal / Brad Sewell Back 14.50 30.65 Lost (30.65) 121.00 |
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That was the lowest price matched, for quite a bit from memory. Problem they get there votes in before the end of the game. In a contest like that the final 10 minutes should really decide who the B.O.G. player is. I also think it must come from the winning team.
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Na i was on Voss the year Buckly won it. So Losing players can win it.
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Yeah, I know it can, but it doesn't feel right when it does.
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Crazy voting for BOG on assumptions. What happens if the North Smith Medallist gives away a double 50m penalty to lose them the game in the last few minutes, gets reported and ends up getting weeks, etc etc.
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29-Sep-12 Win 1996 Win AFL-NRL Premiership Double SYDNEY/MELBOURNE @Price:$5.25=Return:$525.00 (All-In) 5.25 525 $100.00 $0.00
Grand Final - 30 September / Bulldogs v Storm / Match Odds Melbourne Storm Lay 2230690322 30-Sep-12 01:40 1.2 250.00 1.2 30-Sep-12 18:47 Still want Storm to Win. But If i dint do same with Sewell i lose. Go Storm |
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Sorry Winkler just re read your Post.
Im same should come from Winning Team. ail is Buckly threw Medal into Yarra after the game. |
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So lets say Buddy kicked 18 goals yesterday, and Hawks lost by 10 points, you wouldn't give him BOG?
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Nope. Cause he would have probably kicked 18 goals 27 behinds and cost his team with inaccurate kicking.
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I think there's a fair chance if an individual player somehow kicks a lazy 18 goals in a GF that your team is going to win. Sewell traded for plenty at even money I laid off some at that price as well.
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I placed the Bets the night before. Hit Keep inplay.
Went around mates to Watch Game/Drink/BBQ drink till 4am. Then today when checked Balance was shocked to see Bet Matched, Pretty Happy i was. Outlayed 1200 for the weekend Collected 2100 World Record 6 weeks in a Row i have made a Profit. Taxation will make an enquiry on my accounts soon thinking im getting a 2nd Income and not Declaring it. I just received a letter that i never Declared $4 of Interest i never Declared that was in an account i didnt even know of, that i have 28 days to explain or they May take legal action. I called them up, poor kid on the phone didnt know how to explain it. He had to get 2 Managers to find out how the $4 of unclaimed Interest over 45 mins of all their time. I heard 3 different reasons i still dont know. Now i have to send in my Bank Statements and they have to Re do my Tax. All over $4 of Unclaimed Interest. Good side of it i have an account that was opened up as a kid it had about $88 in it. I went to the Bank and they couldnt find the account after 20 mins they found it, it was set up by my Mum so i need her signature to WD the money. The Bank staff said i have to open up an account with them to transfer the money as it was an old account. I open up the account then told i need my Mums signature. I said please im 40 why do i need my Mums Signature to WD from an account that i didnt know i had. After 20 mins they finally decided i could WD the money. i then asked to Close all accounts down that took another 15 mins and 14 was the staff trying to get me to keep open and move everything to them as i had been a loyal customer. This $4 has cost so much. The Taxation send pretty scary letters out |
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was an easy form ussumption , just as easy as the nrl game tonight
storm are better in finals was no different to the form assesment that crows hardly made the finals hawthorn ill poforemed easy bets imo |
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Cheer Cheer the Red and White
 what an effort, never say die - 2 Flags in 7 years a fair indication of how good a team we are imo seeing as it's not after-timing if you lose??? had $10 on Hanners to win the Norm Smith at $32.50 at the Tab on the way to the pub - how the fark was he not BOG??? Lloydy -pay your taxes  |
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Did you just get home womble?
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JoelJust woke up - Was a BIG day  Couldn't back up for the NRL GF so just watched at home - luckily the doctor came up with a certificate for a couple of days |
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It was the greatest momemnt of my life
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did you go to the game Joel???
would've been brilliant to be there - i think some of the folks at the pub I was at wish I had a ticket |