Caulfield race under investigation

The fact that no one was too stupid answer as to answer it, should have been a strong hint for you to mend your ways.

those little sprints up the hill at caulfield always do wonders for a horses pulse.

Mr Very did, and jfc another herb missing is sage, even though you try to be sage, you clearly are not


I did hear a rumour though that jfc hates ROSEMARY but loves BASIL

not that theres anything wrong with that

No he didn't.

VeryLTU 30 Aug 12 02:09 Joined: 20 Nov 05 | Topic/replies: 2,509 | Blogger: VeryLTU's blog
Royal Mail.... it was a standout with Apres at the weights... i backed em both because it looked like a 2 horse race...


I do believe that was his answer. Maybe Mr Very can confirm or deny?

No it wasn't.

i can't work out why they go to all the trouble of organizing the race fix......just weigh in light....simple

Mr Cushion, do you think the stewards as slow as they are might catch on after DN weighed in light 10 times in a month?

just out of curiosity, has he ever weighed in light....anyone know?

I doubt it as its a very rare occurrence

not that rare spy...3 times in past 3 months(country tracks)....I have a vague memory of it happening to him 2 or 3 years ago at a provincial. Could be wrong.

Maybe you're right about him weighing in light, i don't recall though, and 3 times on country tracks in 3 months is quite a lot, but 3 months is only a small timeframe, i doubt it would happen once a month over the long haul, my guess would be maybe once a year, but its only a guess

you're right about that average...but the frequency has increased in the past couple of years.

Maybe it has and it has possibly been done on occasion for nefarious reasons

I bet in that race and backed the winner bolton which was racing well and was very well placed in that race and he has far more class and ability than Apres a cat, Royal Mail, a handy horse. Watch the replay and judge for yourself Apres given every possible mortal hope and Royal Mail simply not good enough after being given every chance.

Bolton's stable is a betting stable when they like one of theirs as they showed again when they had the balls to back in their good judgment and to have a very sneaky go on at long prices on Sea Lord first up at MV last Saturday.

http://bigpondvideo.com/racingtv/?ref=Net-Head-TV-Sport-Racing

caulfield race 7 february 4, 2012 type in 4.2.12 exactly as it appears here in the search box and scroll down to the race
and judge for yourself

Gee you guys are willing to swallow some absolute craap, if you spent as much time studying form as you do about whinging who pulled up what supposedly, you might actually regularly back a winner.

No qualms with DN going back and onto rail when he had a lovely cart up in the run Mr Elope?

Lets even you have to admit there is a common denominator in all the allegations.

Lost little to no ground and had its chance and couldn't get anywhere near the winner, well and truly had its chance, talk about jumping at shadows.

Like I said spend more time studying form than what may or may not have happened in a race and your strike rate will improve dramatically.

You mean the fact that Lets appears to have backed the winner??

I forgot about that Mr Joel, well spotted

You know nothing about my strike rate Mr Elope, but i know a lot about yours, especially the ones you post after the ball

Doesn't mean its correct, Whoopi. 

I really dont care one way or another but show me a race with something substantial and then I might agree but there is nothing in either the cranbourne race or this one to suggest that the horses were ridden not to fulfill their best possible placings or to prevent them from winning.

Clearly the best horse on the day won on both occasions.

So what about all the police info, cops just making things up?

I know you spend a hell of a lot of time whinging about how this one and that one was ridden suspect, time that could be spent far more constructively, analysing why you got the race wrong in the first place and improving your own form assessment.

Joel I backed the winner because I was on it at flemington when it trotted in the previous start and the horse was flying and it was pitchforked into that race, and it's a horse with some sembalance of class racing against cats and it's a horse I've alway had time for and I love to back horses with a touch of class when they're in the right race, plus the trainer is a very, very good trainer.

When they bet, they very rarely miss, he improves other peoples horses significantly, places them well and is not afraid to have a bet and more often not when they do, he is correct, all of which are the signs of a very good trainer.
Correct me if I'm wrong but stables like that are worth following, especially when they have the best horse in the race.

starting to look a bit suss lets... you seem to have backed the winners of all of these races that the stewards are interested in

Never bet in that cranbourne race Very and wouldn't have backed any of those cats if you had paid me to.

And he is the most vocal supporter of DN on here as well

Someone call the cops

i look forward to lets backing him up .... when he's explaining himself in court soon about some other matters . Top bloke danny, you know he must be ... because lets spoke to him once upon a time.

While you're there Mr Very, were you answering my question as to who rode 3rd placegetter when you posted Royal Mail...?

I'm not saying that all I've said if you guys can actually read which I'm severely beginning to doubt, is that there was nothing untoward in either of those two races in the manner in which the horses were ridden, how hard is that for you to fathom, that is my opinion and I stand by it and from experience the overwhelming majority of cops are just as dumb, just as corrupt, as the bloody stewards themselves, so do your form, analyse your races properly and move on.

You're like a bunch of little old ladies, the way you lot carry on.

BINGO!

Seriously, you lot are getting nearly as bad as the bloody poms who have infested this joint.

The cops were trying to solve a murder when they intercepted the race rigging info Mr Elope, does that not mean anything to you?

Lets I don't think you get that form analysis in these matters is irrelevant.
Maybe they would've won anyway....who cares?
It's whether the conspiracy to manipulate the results occurred or not that matters.

As long  as they don't ride in an untoward or uncompetitive manner that affects the result of a race I couldn't care less about whatever comnplete and utter fantasy they concoct amongst themselves in order to hoodwink someone off track to get something for themselves on the side, I only care if the horses are being ridden to their true ability and if they are well and good.

Sounds like you are privy to the defence strategy Lets

Joel, you weren't seriously asking on the other thread  are the police dumb??? Is the pope a farkin Catholic, a large percentage of them, not all of course as there actually are some intelligent cops, but a large percentage are as thick as pigshiit.

Lets my niece is a cop...law degree...not dumb.

Whoopi you don't understand I dont give a flying fark as long as they're riding properly, according to the rules and not pulling my or other horses up during a race and I've yet to see anything that suggests otherwise in any of those supposedly questionable races.

I don't give a shiit about telephone conversations and supposedly large sums of money changing hands in return for information supposedly insider information show me soemthing concrete and Ill be the first to agree with you but there is nothing in either of those races that is suspect in my considered opinion.

I did say there are some intelligent ones whoopi. There are several guys I used to know from school who became cops and trust me they were and are as thick as pigshiit, so naturally they've risen through the ranks.

it's not whether you care Lets...it's whether a crime has been committed..conspiracy to commit a crime is a crime....

To be fair I assume they're from WA though Lets, so they have an excuse

phone conversations
not good enough for you lets...

maybe a different attitude if you had not been on winner

one thing i think we can be sure of...those investigating will be smarter than DN

Don't be too sure about that Mr Cushion, DN has avoided prosecution thus far

Big surprise the next 2 i the market were ridden by Nikolic and Melham

spyman..... yes, i was answering your question. By the way lets, those very accurate punters from darwin.......... how did they go when they attempted to smash that champion bolton at flemington in the comedy king, 3? weeks earlier ???  Oh, that's right.... unplaced to that other champion OVer Quota which paid $52.50. ffs maybe that's why they needed to get the money back so badly !!

spyvspy27 30 Aug 12 01:06 Joined: 29 Jul 12 | Topic/replies: 412 | Blogger: spyvspy27's blog
Who rode the 3rd placegetter?

VeryLTU 30 Aug 12 01:40 Joined: 20 Nov 05 | Topic/replies: 2,512 | Blogger: VeryLTU's blog
mz been talking a lot imo. There's going to be many investigations anon imo

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No you weren't!

jfc, can you read? If so kindly read post directly above yours by Mr Very. (Or are you suggesting Mr Very is a liar?


But just in case you can't find it, here it is for you

VeryLTU 30 Aug 12 06:36 Joined: 20 Nov 05 | Topic/replies: 2,512 | Blogger: VeryLTU's blog
spyman..... yes, i was answering your question. By the way lets, those very accurate punters from darwin.......... how did they go when they attempted to smash that champion bolton at flemington in the comedy king, 3? weeks earlier ???  Oh, that's right.... unplaced to that other champion OVer Quota  which paid $52.50. ffs maybe that's why they needed to get the money back so badly !!

I await your reply

Mr Very i was going to say thak you for clarifying, but it appears it still isn't clear to all of us, so until it is, i'm sorry but i'm not going to thank you, i hope you understand

You should be privileged MrSpy you appear to have taken over ZR as jfc's new fascination

your a good judge Mr Spyman.

BTW LE if you can't see anything wrong with that race you are a bad judge

and talk about after fkn timing! 6 months ffs

Obviously I did read Very's post.

As I was responding to it, by proving how he was wrong.

I'm just a small exotics player Mr Very

So now Mr Very is also wrong jfc? Well that takes the fkn cake, just because he didn't answer in his very next post, is he then banned from answering at all?

jfc give it a rest please

Mr Elephant, i don't have ZRs monjey so i don't want his detractors either

I like Thai girls too, exotics are the best

So you're a lotto player Mr Elephant? Don't mind if you win a she or a sheboy

spyvspy27 30 Aug 12 06:57 Joined: 29 Jul 12 | Topic/replies: 417 | Blogger: spyvspy27's blog
So now Mr Very is also wrong jfc? Well that takes the fkn cake, just because he didn't answer in his very next post, is he then banned from answering at all?

jfc give it a rest please


As I showed Very's very next post was immediately after your dubious question.

Evidently 34 minutes later!

Now, you couldn't figure out that Back High Lay Low went to the trouble of providing ample links in his leading post.

And you asked that dumb question.

When no one was sucked in to your lame stunt, you then asked again!

And when you're sprung, you try and duck your way out.

Just as you did before with your brilliant guesstimate.

It's one thing to be a loser, but you just keep chasing your losses.

they say it's very hard to tell, heads or tails it's all good

jfc go and have a drink and relax mate

You just don't give up, i think everyone here knows who the loser is jfc.

You must have a steel jaw as you just keep on leading with your chin, could you please stop it as my knuckles are getting very sore from continually clocking you on it

at both your comments Mr Elephant, even though i think your 2nd one is falling on deaf ears

hey spy what happened to TQ i read somewhere u got her barred ?

have her and lazza got married and on their honeymoon ?

Whoever posted that is mistaken, in order to get someone banned you must put in a complaint, she did a pretty good job of getting barred herself without anyones help

Wow!

I'm allegedly being pummeled.

By a self acknowledged small exotics player.

Who has to persist with dumb questions because he can't figure out a blatant link.

Hmmm,

nearly everyone here does know who the loser is.

Maybe, i wonder if Thailand is where they are honeymooning

Don't ask them to vote on who is the loser jfc, you may not like the result

I can see the answer in front of me on my screen.

Just as you can.

Delusion doesn't count jfc

Hasn't Basil been knocking you back, is that why you're upset?

Has that should read, but you can understand a small exotics player making that mistake can't you?

spyvspy27 30 Aug 12 01:06 Joined: 29 Jul 12 | Topic/replies: 425 | Blogger: spyvspy27's blog
Who rode the 3rd placegetter?


spyvspy27 30 Aug 12 02:54 Joined: 29 Jul 12 | Topic/replies: 425 | Blogger: spyvspy27's blog
VeryLTU 30 Aug 12 02:09 Joined: 20 Nov 05 | Topic/replies: 2,509 | Blogger: VeryLTU's blog
Royal Mail.... it was a standout with Apres at the weights... i backed em both because it looked like a 2 horse race...


I do believe that was his answer. Maybe Mr Very can confirm or deny?

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The problem is Royal Mail did not ride the 3rd placegetter!

And the even bigger problem for you is that everyone can see the lengths you resort to, to try and extricate yourself from being sprung.

If Zeljko is paying you for such trolling attempts, then instead of a cheque in the mail, there might be a termination notice.

Termination notice, like you got off him?

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Which one was DN on Mr Very?
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VeryLTU 30 Aug 12 02:09 Joined: 20 Nov 05 | Topic/replies: 2,513 | Blogger: VeryLTU's blog
Royal Mail.... it was a standout with Apres at the weights... i backed em both because it looked like a 2 horse race...
You utter fkn imbecile, the question to Mr Very was which one was DN on, as you can clearly see, or maybe you can't, it seemed a straightforward enough question to everyone but you.

Just keep leading with your chin fool

A convenient paste with the incriminating times edited out.

Switching questions like you just have simply illustrates the lame depths you will go to, to try and avoid the truth.

But anyone interested can simply go back through the thread and verify what a piece of work you are.

Just a few posts back we see you claiming the question was:

Who rode the 3rd placegetter?

When did Mr Very Answer? After i posted a question directed at him, which was WHICH ONE WAS DN ON MR VERY?

As you will notice no one answered the 1st question, which you so conveniently c+p along with Mr Verys answer, then you say Royal Mail did not ride Royal Mail, so Mr Very was wrong with his answer.

But you must be right, surely you must

jfc.... the delay in my postings happened because i was v. busy with caulfield sat. and not reading every post in between checking the thread. My answer "Royal Mail" WAS in fact my answer to spymans question.

and b4 i can answer any more investigation.... i must go and get gf's dinner because she is getting a bit restless.... and not in a mood to work the stove.

What are you going to get?

Joel 30 Aug 12 08:15 Joined: 14 Feb 04 | Topic/replies: 12,039 | Blogger: Joel's blog
What are you going to get?


Nothing if he doesn't get dinner

ha ha you're a funny man joel. lucky i saw your post so quickly.... and can tell u... i dont'f faaarrrrking care what she wants................ she's getting a lemon chicken with a few spring rolls to kick off with.

spyvspy27 30 Aug 12 01:06 Joined: 29 Jul 12 | Topic/replies: 428 | Blogger: spyvspy27's blog
Who rode the 3rd placegetter?

Why would anyone even ask such a question!

It suggests that something was significant about the 3rd placegetter.

So you concluded that by watching the video from the link.

But did not figure out that the immediately adjacent link would identify the rider.

No one will buy that.

But you persist in trying to sell it.

That's my favourite

Watching the race on the link jfc, it was the ride i thought looked most suss out of them hence my question.

Mr Very bought it as he answered, so someone did

Very,

the facts show you are wrong.

There was only a 6 minute delay to you answering the perp's 2nd question.

And around 1 hour from his 1st unanswered question that few would believe he was genuinely trying to ask.

And scrutinising that link left you so overwrought with emotion that you neglected to consult the adjacent link that answered your question?

Sure you have the ticker for this caper?

thankyou gentlemen....it's been a long largely unbettable day for me...this entertainment has kept me going

Furthermore, after watching the race, and claiming not to know the rider in question, you then ask who Nikolic was on!

Boy, are you in need of goodification!

I think the more pressing question is....will VLTU be having prawn crackers?

i luv u joel

Joel,

your pressing questions do you no credit.

Recently, you asked whether I was related to kfc.

Precisely what relatable individual does that refer to?

For me the real question seems to be about your mental capacity.

jfc...taking on all comers...the Rocky Balboa of the forum..Adrieeeeeeennnneee!!

Nobody's ever gone the distance with Spyman
All he wants to do is go the distance.
And if he can go that distance
Then he'll know he wasn't just another bum from the neighbourhood.

Being just a small exotics player, i suppose your last line describes me best Mr Cushion

Come on Let's surely you're smarter than that. The best horse probably did win and no matter how well DN rode Royal Mail it probably wouldn't have challenged the winner. But it's clear as day he didn't give it every possible.

I agree with Spy, the sooner they start locking people up the better

Was looking for the daily update in the harold today. How lucky for racing victoria that brett ratten got sacked.... you had to turn no less than 26 pages from the back to find the burial site