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http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/racefixing-scandal-spreads-20120814-246zb.html

Race-fixing scandal spreads

Date
    August 15, 2012

Richard Baker and Nick McKenzie

THE racing corruption scandal has dramatically widened, with at least four top jockeys along with professional punters and other racing identities now under investigation.

In addition to the Smoking Aces scandal - which The Age can reveal involves fresh allegations that top jockey Danny Nikolic paid kickbacks to a third party to fix a race - authorities are also examining corruption allegations linked to several other horse races.

One of the allegations being probed involves one of Australia's most famous jockeys, who The Age cannot identify for legal reasons, who bet thousands of dollars on a rival horse to win a race in which the jockey was riding. The race was at a metropolitan Melbourne track within the past two years.
Danny Nikolic.

Jockey Danny Nikolic.

Meanwhile, a source from wagering company Betfair has confirmed a major investigation is being conducted into suspicious ''lay betting'' - in which a punter backs a horse not to come first - involving more than two dozen races and another leading jockey.
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''We have been aware of it for some time and we have told the authorities [in Victoria],'' the Betfair source said. ''It is the most serious case we have at the moment.''

The Age can also reveal that:
Mark Hunter.

Racing media identity Mark Hunter. Photo: Leanne Pickett

■Federal and state policing agencies are holding extensive information - which has not been passed to racing authorities - about the corrupt activity of three licensed Victorian bookmakers.

■A fourth bookmaker, Charlie Norris, recently resigned midway through a probe by the state's gaming authorities into his business association with a convicted drug trafficker.

■Efforts by Chief Commissioner Ken Lay to ban organised crime figures - including prominent horse owner Paul Sequenzia - from the track have been stalled by legal problems.

■The state government and racing authorities are at loggerheads about whether changes to the law are needed to allow stewards to question non-licensed racing identities suspected of corrupting the sport.

In connection to the Smoking Aces scandal, sources close to champion jockey Danny Nikolic have revealed he offered to pay another jockey a kickback of up to $5000 in return for helping manipulate a race at Cranbourne in April 2011.

As many as three jockeys, including Nikolic - who rode Smoking Aces to victory in an April 2011 race that is under scrutiny - are now being investigated over the alleged race fix.

Sources at Caulfield have also confirmed to The Age that former AFL player, racing media identity and jockey adviser Mark Hunter is being probed by authorities for his links to betting tied with the Smoking Aces scandal. So too are Danny Nikolic's brothers - former jockey Tommy Nikolic and former Queensland-based trainer John Nikolic.

It is understood Mr Hunter, who provides riding advice to jockeys in return for a small fee, had contact with members of the Nikolic family in connection to a betting plunge on Smoking Aces prior to the April 2011 race. Mr Hunter could not be reached for comment.

Despite police publicly confirming last week that they are investigating the ride of Smoking Aces in connection to alleged race fixing, Nikolic has faced no action by Racing Victoria. He continues to ride, and raced six mounts over the weekend. He is due to ride a further six times this week.

Racing Minister Denis Napthine yesterday said the government was ready to introduce new laws if police, racing integrity bodies or others in the industry identified the need for change.

''The legislators have to be constantly vigilant and constantly ready to close a loophole or introduce a new power if they are identified and justified,'' Dr Napthine said. ''Integrity is paramount and we will do whatever is necessary to ensure integrity.''

But opposition spokesman Martin Pakula said Mr Napthine should act immediately.

''Denis Napthine must act, without further delay, to give the stewards the powers they need to deal with unlicensed persons, and to enable police to share information with racing officials,'' Mr Pakula said.

In the wake of allegations of race fixing and corruption aired last week by The Age and Four Corners, NSW yesterday became the first Australian jurisdiction to announce the introduction of race fixing laws, which will carry a 10-year jail penalty.

The revelations about other cases of suspected corruption in the sport undermine the claims made by Australian Racing Board CEO Peter McGuaran and Victorian racing chief Rob Hines last week - after The Age and Four Corners revealed allegations of race fixing and other misconduct - that integrity problems were limited to allegations involving a single race.

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By:
Thebas
When: 14 Aug 12 23:50
promises to be as interesting ... publically ... as fine cotton & the jockey tapes ... cops are just waiting for someone to roll over under oath i imagine ...

where its headed who knows ... but well done four corners for preparing us i guess
By:
lazza
When: 15 Aug 12 00:14
The clock does not lie!

It's alot bigger than we will ever know!
By:
Thebas
When: 15 Aug 12 00:19
NSW yesterday became the first Australian jurisdiction to announce the introduction of race fixing laws, which will carry a 10-year jail penalty.

the clock ... yes lazza ... and should a rorting 'methodology' come out for public scrutiny ... then in light of the above re NSW ... maybe sydney metro racing will become more 'competitive' early ... time-wise also
By:
Beat The OverRound
When: 15 Aug 12 00:27
It is understood Mr Hunter, who provides riding advice to jockeys in return for a small fee

Hilarious, anyone miss this???

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
lazza
When: 15 Aug 12 00:37
What are top Jockeys?
They are men who can adjust to any situation

but when they suddenly lose that ability ( for one race)
then questions need to be asked.

Sydney is a closed shop.. The laws are just a front.

If they were fair dinkum then Munce would have
done his full time.
By:
Back High Lay Low
When: 15 Aug 12 00:42
Pete 'Keystone' V'landys is on the case in NSW.

The chief executive of Racing NSW, Peter V'landys, said the allegations seemed to be confined to Victoria. ''We're going to be vigilant in NSW to ensure there's no allegations here.''

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/horseracing/racing-scandal-widens-20120814-246vx.html#ixzz23YsQjCIX

What a toolPlain
By:
Thebas
When: 15 Aug 12 00:43
yes overround ... maybe the advice is more than just 'mount from the near side' Laugh
By:
lazza
When: 15 Aug 12 00:55
Mark Hunter?
Is this the guy who does tips on Sky and
manages Williams?
By:
Beat The OverRound
When: 15 Aug 12 01:00
He's an ex footballer and mug punter.

He was called before the Stewards in Vic in 2010 over Nikolic back then.
He offered to supply them his "speed maps" for the meetings in question, the stewards giggled and said "they will not be required".

He's a complete joke.
By:
lazza
When: 15 Aug 12 01:05
Ah I don't know of him.. I think I'm confused
with Mark Guest.
By:
spyvspy27
When: 15 Aug 12 02:12
Poor old DN, they try and ping him for not giving some of his mounts every chance, so he does a 180 and tries to give some of them too much chance, and they want to ping him again, no wonder hes confused
By:
VeryLTU
When: 15 Aug 12 02:39
was an ordinary player with footscray lazza. Speaks as knowledgably as Mark Guest re horse racing and analysis.. sounds like he knows what he's on about.......but just like Guest and other so called "experts" the race outcomes are usually different, very different, to what he's predicted.
By:
lazza
When: 15 Aug 12 03:25
Well R Freedman said it's a colourful industry ffs lol

they keep forgetting though that it's supposed
to be regulated ffs.

Had a little go at Gai's in the 1st GL
By:
spyvspy27
When: 15 Aug 12 06:27
The chief executive of Racing NSW, Peter V'landys, said the allegations seemed to be confined to Victoria. ''We're going to be vigilant in NSW to ensure there's no allegations here.''


Looks like the Astronomer rider & connections can breathe easy
By:
lazza
When: 15 Aug 12 06:37
Crooked racing means higher turnover..

But it can only last so long... Imo
By:
PCisaripoff
When: 15 Aug 12 06:45
Lots of hot races, has always happened & will continue. The game is to know or at least be able to recognise the signs. Interesting rides day in/day out. Vic jockeys either dumb/hopeless or hot. See Sandown Race 5, stewards enittled to bring every jockey bar 2 & ask the question "did you see Race 4, why did you leave the inside?". Might be some entertaining responses & at least we'd know the IQ of some of these freaks on seats
By:
logroller
When: 15 Aug 12 06:55
come on pcis............they cant jump over horses in front of them, or run straight through them, i think some horses have to hook out wide to get a run, they all can get the run of the fence dh...........................jumping at shadows u lot
By:
Lets Elope
When: 15 Aug 12 09:00
Mark Hunter is hardly a mug punter and seriously doubt he would be involved in anything. Provides speedmaps etc for riders and is a an astute professional punter who's been around for a long time. Also a pretty good judge.
By:
Kye
When: 15 Aug 12 09:28
Lets obviously you know the guy well. However if punters are such good judges why do they need to associate with jockeys at all. If i recall there were some pretty suspect betting transactions mentioned from the previous allegations involving DN.

I have no respect for any punter involved in benefitting from a jockey pulling up a mount & any punter that is involved in such conspiracy to commit fraud belongs in jail with the jockey.
By:
spyvspy27
When: 15 Aug 12 09:31
Mr Elope are you saying the police just made it all up re his involvement? To quote Richie Callander puhleeeeze
By:
earlycrow
When: 15 Aug 12 09:35
I always rated Mark Hunter, here is a link to his tips when they were on The Tote daily, looking through the archives there are alot of winners
http://mar****erstips.thetote.com.au/
By:
Lets Elope
When: 15 Aug 12 09:36
He provides them with speed maps for fark sake and advice on tactics etc.
By:
spyvspy27
When: 15 Aug 12 09:39
I don't think thats the reason the police have implicated him Mr Elope, unless of course they have him giving advice on tactics that aren't in the best interest of the horses chances of winning Laugh
By:
Lets Elope
When: 15 Aug 12 09:39
I know a good mate of his who is a good longtime firend of mine and I know him through that person and from going to the races with them a couple of times when I've been over there and when he's come  over here inthe past for the Inters and our racing carnival. I would be flabbergasted if Mark was involved in anything.
By:
Lets Elope
When: 15 Aug 12 09:42
Cops barking up the wrong tree with him for sure, the only reason he would be mentioned is probably because of the phone records of calls to and from him.
By:
Kye
When: 15 Aug 12 09:43
Lets do how many friends & family have said that about prison inmates. Never thought he was the type.

Ffs leave it to the police & if he is guilty of anything i'm sure they will charge him. But we dont need some w@nker saying what a great person he is.
By:
Kye
When: 15 Aug 12 09:44
Cops barking up the wrong tree. What the fk would you know about their job 7 what evidence they have?
By:
spyvspy27
When: 15 Aug 12 09:45
You must also believe in the tooth fairy, as i'm sure out of all the recordings they, not every voice is up to no good, hence they didn't name people just because their voice was recorded.
I may be wrong but you sound quite biased Mr Elope.

Should Mr hunter be charged, you can't change your mind as we have your pre race tip on the matter Laugh
By:
nickw
When: 15 Aug 12 09:52
must be a massive advantage if you know the way certain horses are going to ridden in a race

Having said that i have recieved his tips when he was on board with thetote to say is he is mug is just plain incorrect
By:
lazza
When: 15 Aug 12 09:59
Write your own ticket with that mail imo
By:
Lets Elope
When: 15 Aug 12 10:08
Considering how I rate some of the opinions on here seeing certain clowns expect him to be charged I would say mark has absolutely zero to be concerned about.
By:
lazza
When: 15 Aug 12 10:17
Are you saying Racing is totally clean Lets?
By:
Live_in_Hope
When: 15 Aug 12 10:39
u need phone recordings for a conviction - records can be challenged
just saying
By:
Lets Elope
When: 15 Aug 12 10:50
Of course not Lazza but to say that Mark Hunter would be involved in anything is verging on laughable in my opinion.
By:
lazza
When: 15 Aug 12 11:04
I don't know him Lets but some of the boys
on here think differently.. I just find it amazing
how anyone connected in a scam that DN
is involved in .. You immeadIately go into bat
for them... Let's from what I've seen happening
this is only the tip of the ice berg IMO..

I know I react and say ah that thing was dead
and I'm sure on some occassions I'm wrong
... but when these top jocks ride them like
4 kilo claimers ffs... We are talking about a
hell of a lot of money here.
By:
Live_in_Hope
When: 15 Aug 12 11:18
nothin to do with this thread but do you know the name of moodies biggest owner?
By:
Putawhyyouflinch
When: 15 Aug 12 12:26
Beat The OverRound
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He's an ex footballer and mug punter.

He was called before the Stewards in Vic in 2010 over Nikolic back then.
He offered to supply them his "speed maps" for the meetings in question, the stewards giggled and said "they will not be required".

He's a complete joke.




Beat The OverRound you seem to make sense in most of your posts but this don't seem one of them how do you come to the conclusion that he is a mug...the guy has been doing this for years while making a living from it just asking?
By:
Lets Elope
When: 15 Aug 12 12:28
Stars he's probably dirty that he didn't get Mark's tipsLaugh
By:
Monday mike
When: 15 Aug 12 13:21
Carlton Football Club are a subsidury company of organised crime in Melbourne.
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