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For horse that is so relaxed how worked up did she get, clearly wasn’t the horse we have come to know
She had to be pushed to get past Soul and beat it by a length ffs. Soul a listed horse at best here and this is our greatest ever sprinter, just hope she is alright would be a massive shame.
She had to be pushed to get past Soul and beat it by a length ffs. Soul a listed horse at best here and this is our greatest ever sprinter, just hope she is alright would be a massive shame.
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Nothing left to prove.. even the Queen bowed her head to her
Any other horse I would say definitely not. But she is one of the most relaxed sprinters you will ever see.
I have never seen her get anywhere near that worked up before, was close to 10 lengths of her best imo
I have never seen her get anywhere near that worked up before, was close to 10 lengths of her best imo
That was her 9th race this season, and she won them all. Not surprised she's just scraped home. I think her connections have got away with this but fair play to them for bringing her over.
KCS she only threw her head around 20 seconds before she went into the barrier?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^SHE WAS MORE RELAXED THAN ANY HORSE I HAVE EVER SEEN PRE RACE
WHAT TV PICTURES WERE YOUR STATIONS SHOWING FFS WE SEEN HER PRETTY MUCH NON STOP FOR HALF AN HOUR BEFORE THE RACE AND SHE WAS RELAXED THROUGHOUT FOU SEETHING MUG
WHAT TV PICTURES WERE YOUR STATIONS SHOWING FFS WE SEEN HER PRETTY MUCH NON STOP FOR HALF AN HOUR BEFORE THE RACE AND SHE WAS RELAXED THROUGHOUT FOU SEETHING MUG
She was very agitated imo stars, just was not the same horse I have seen over the last couple of seasons. Her action was different and she never really traveled like she does.
Just heard Peter Moody for thr first time after the race on sky, looks a done deal imo. Shame really..
Just heard Peter Moody for thr first time after the race on sky, looks a done deal imo. Shame really..
yes not the way we want to see her go out definitely especially with these bloody poms sticking it to her now shame imo
KCS Moody just said she will go back into work for the carnival and if shes up to it she continues
Yea for anyone who missed the interview, he didn't actually say she would be retired but he did say it was possibility.... And after today's run I would be very surprised if she was to run again
KSC just had a look at the UK forum fck me drunk what a bagging she coping no good overrated blah blah blah unreal lol
Jealous poms.
She won with injuries, whilst being eased up.
She won with injuries, whilst being eased up.
Fellas, I live in HK and watch and have watched a lot of racing for 50 years. She is the 2nd best sprinter i have seen to Dayjur, and i have seen some good uns. But to compare her to the best i have seen internationally in that long is folly, she wouldn't hold a candle to Frankel - simple. BTW I'm not a pom
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Jealous poms.
She won with injuries, whilst being eased up.
funny how the excuses come out once she has been showen up to be just a decent horse and nothing special there was no talk of injuries a couple of days ago when she did an amazing piece of work,atleast,amazing to the standards of aussie racing
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Jealous poms.
She won with injuries, whilst being eased up.
funny how the excuses come out once she has been showen up to be just a decent horse and nothing special
there was no talk of injuries a couple of days ago when she did an amazing piece of work,atleast,amazing to the standards of aussie racing
HOW CAN A HORSE WHO WINS 22 IN A ROW BE CONSIDERED NOTHING SPECIAL
ANOTHER GREAT POST FROM ANOTHER FINE PIECE OF VERMIN
ANOTHER GREAT POST FROM ANOTHER FINE PIECE OF VERMIN
hope she enjoys her retirement helping Outback Jack herd his sheep.
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HOW CAN A HORSE WHO WINS 22 IN A ROW BE CONSIDERED NOTHING SPECIAL
ANOTHER GREAT POST FROM ANOTHER FINE PIECE OF VERMIN
when will you aussies wake up and smell the sh1t that you are shoveling winning 21 soft races over their where the standard of horse is way way below the standard in europe,means nothing,the fact is she had 1 race over here against europe and she scraped home by a whisker lads and the whole world was watching,so there is no point in continuing to bang on about how amazing she is and that she is the best the world has ever seen
I have no doubt that you will all continue to shovel that,but it will only be aussies who believe it,as the world now knows the truth
Yes,she is a very good horse,but she is nothing special like you lead us to believe,now run along and make up more fantasy stories around the barbie
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HOW CAN A HORSE WHO WINS 22 IN A ROW BE CONSIDERED NOTHING SPECIAL
ANOTHER GREAT POST FROM ANOTHER FINE PIECE OF VERMIN
when will you aussies wake up and smell the sh1t that you are shoveling
winning 21 soft races over their where the standard of horse is way way below the standard in europe,means nothing,the fact is she had 1 race over here against europe and she scraped home by a whisker lads and the whole world was watching,so there is no point in continuing to bang on about how amazing she is and that she is the best the world has ever seenI have no doubt that you will all continue to shovel that,but it will only be aussies who believe it,as the world now knows the truth
Yes,she is a very good horse,but she is nothing special like you lead us to believe,now run along and make up more fantasy stories around the barbie
A TRUE EQUINE SUPERSTAR
HRE, you're not covering yourself in glory here. 
Don't know how any true racing fan can be happy that she struggled. Anyone who loves racing loves seeing brilliant performances from great horses, unfortunately today for some reason she was evidently well below form.
Don't know how any true racing fan can be happy that she struggled. Anyone who loves racing loves seeing brilliant performances from great horses, unfortunately today for some reason she was evidently well below form.
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HRE, you're not covering yourself in glory here.
unfortunately today for some reason she was evidently well below form.
by making the above statement,it is you who are not covering youself in glory sir,how on gods earth can you just say that today for some reason she was not at her best,you have absolutely nothing to back that up,you are just talking rubbish cause she is clearly not as good as you thought she was,
You saying that is no different to me saying that i believe that FRANKEL was knowhere near his best this week and that i believe he is 20lbs better than that,
Then we could also go on to say that even if she was slightly below her best,that also shows that she is nothing special,as you have had a number of other horses that have come over here and delivered with out making excuses,including othere fillies and mares,so that would make BC soft as she could not deliver what you believe is her best
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HRE, you're not covering yourself in glory here.
unfortunately today for some reason she was evidently well below form.
by making the above statement,it is you who are not covering youself in glory sir,how on gods earth can you just say that today for some reason she was not at her best,you have absolutely nothing to back that up,you are just talking rubbish cause she is clearly not as good as you thought she was,
You saying that is no different to me saying that i believe that FRANKEL was knowhere near his best this week and that i believe he is 20lbs better than that,
Then we could also go on to say that even if she was slightly below her best,that also shows that she is nothing special,as you have had a number of other horses that have come over here and delivered with out making excuses,including othere fillies and mares,so that would make BC soft as she could not deliver what you believe is her best
It is plain as night follows day that she was below form. Soul's performance in Australia leave him way below the level of Black Caviar. She was on a hiding to nothing coming over here really. If she had won easily you'd say she has beaten nothing of note (even though I rate Moonlight Cloud as a very smart filly).
I don't know what you're trying to gain coming on here and gloating like you've achieved some sort of personal victory, that shouldn't be what this sport is about. This sport should be about celebrating champions, and she most certainly is one.
Your constant bragging reflects badly on yourself, but I doubt that bothers you one bit!
I don't know what you're trying to gain coming on here and gloating like you've achieved some sort of personal victory, that shouldn't be what this sport is about. This sport should be about celebrating champions, and she most certainly is one.
Your constant bragging reflects badly on yourself, but I doubt that bothers you one bit!
She is a very good horse,of that there is no doubt,but the arrogance of the aussies to immediately state after the race that she was clearly way below her best is distgusting pathetic and an embarrassment,just because she did not win easily,how dare you just assume you can come over and walk over a horse of the ability of Moonlight Cloud and others,she came over and she won her group 1 and has remained unbeaten,my advice would be,to be happy with that and shut your mouths,instead of coming out with all the crap about how she was clearly way off her best and underperformed,you have absolutely nothing to base that on,the fact that she ran 10.78 or whatever it was says she produced her best
the fact that she ran 10.78 or whatever it was says she produced her best
you are actually getting closer to a sensible post HRE ... so well done
but facts are facts ... are you saying that 10.78 is her best lifetime sectional ... or are you unaware of her full career & sectional performances ?
you are actually getting closer to a sensible post HRE ... so well done
but facts are facts ... are you saying that 10.78 is her best lifetime sectional ... or are you unaware of her full career & sectional performances ?
'How dare I assume', 'Shut my mouth'?
For starters I assumed nothing HRE. If you start assuming things in this game you won't last long. I thought Black Caviar was very beatable today due to a combination of the ground, the trip, and the fact she's been on the go for the past 6 months, hardly an ideal prep in my opinion. At her best I think she would have pulled out another few lengths.
Why should I shut my mouth? This is an internet forum, where intelligent discussion is encouraged. However you seem to be reveling in the lack of a superstar performance from her. As a lover of racing I wanted nothing more than to see her do something phenomenal, why shouldn't we enjoy watching great horses run as opposed to putting them down at the first sign of vulnerability? Remember, it was only a year ago that Frankel didn't look oh so bombproof after the St James's Palace.
For starters I assumed nothing HRE. If you start assuming things in this game you won't last long. I thought Black Caviar was very beatable today due to a combination of the ground, the trip, and the fact she's been on the go for the past 6 months, hardly an ideal prep in my opinion. At her best I think she would have pulled out another few lengths.
Why should I shut my mouth? This is an internet forum, where intelligent discussion is encouraged. However you seem to be reveling in the lack of a superstar performance from her. As a lover of racing I wanted nothing more than to see her do something phenomenal, why shouldn't we enjoy watching great horses run as opposed to putting them down at the first sign of vulnerability? Remember, it was only a year ago that Frankel didn't look oh so bombproof after the St James's Palace.
again, well said, they forget about the st james palace. she's ticked all the boxes, cant do anymore, she should be home in the spelling paddock after a long 6 months.
she's a mare who travelled half way around the world and still, she was the first mare in 26 years to win the diamond jubilee, that alone is a great effort.
she's a mare who travelled half way around the world and still, she was the first mare in 26 years to win the diamond jubilee, that alone is a great effort.
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'How dare I assume', 'Shut my mouth'?
For starters I assumed nothing HRE. If you start assuming things in this game you won't last long. I thought Black Caviar was very beatable today due to a combination of the ground, the trip, and the fact she's been on the go for the past 6 months, hardly an ideal prep in my opinion. At her best I think she would have pulled out another few lengths.
Why should I shut my mouth? This is an internet forum, where intelligent discussion is encouraged. However you seem to be reveling in the lack of a superstar performance from her. As a lover of racing I wanted nothing more than to see her do something phenomenal, why shouldn't we enjoy watching great horses run as opposed to putting them down at the first sign of vulnerability? Remember, it was only a year ago that Frankel didn't look oh so bombproof after the St James's Palace.
ONLY THOSE WHO ARE MAKING EXCUSES AND WRITING ABOUT HOW SHE WAS HUGELY BELOW HER BEST NEED TO SHUT UP,SECONDLY,THE GROUND WAS OFFICIALLY 'GOOD' SO THAT WONT WASH,THIRDLY,AS I STATED EARLIER,PLENTY OF OTHER AUSSIE HORSES HAVE MADE THE TRIP MANY OF TIMES AND STILL BEEN ABLE TO PRODUCE THEIR BEST,SO I'M NOT HAVING THAT EITHER,LASTLY
CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF YOU FOR HER VICTORY TODAY AND WE REALLY ENJOYED HAVING HER OVER,IT WAS A PLEASURE,HOPE SHE HAS A SAFE FLIGHT BACK AND ENJOY THE REST OF HER CAREER
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'How dare I assume', 'Shut my mouth'?
For starters I assumed nothing HRE. If you start assuming things in this game you won't last long. I thought Black Caviar was very beatable today due to a combination of the ground, the trip, and the fact she's been on the go for the past 6 months, hardly an ideal prep in my opinion. At her best I think she would have pulled out another few lengths.
Why should I shut my mouth? This is an internet forum, where intelligent discussion is encouraged. However you seem to be reveling in the lack of a superstar performance from her. As a lover of racing I wanted nothing more than to see her do something phenomenal, why shouldn't we enjoy watching great horses run as opposed to putting them down at the first sign of vulnerability? Remember, it was only a year ago that Frankel didn't look oh so bombproof after the St James's Palace.
ONLY THOSE WHO ARE MAKING EXCUSES AND WRITING ABOUT HOW SHE WAS HUGELY BELOW HER BEST NEED TO SHUT UP,SECONDLY,THE GROUND WAS OFFICIALLY 'GOOD' SO THAT WONT WASH,THIRDLY,AS I STATED EARLIER,PLENTY OF OTHER AUSSIE HORSES HAVE MADE THE TRIP MANY OF TIMES AND STILL BEEN ABLE TO PRODUCE THEIR BEST,SO I'M NOT HAVING THAT EITHER,LASTLY
CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF YOU FOR HER VICTORY TODAY AND WE REALLY ENJOYED HAVING HER OVER,IT WAS A PLEASURE,HOPE SHE HAS A SAFE FLIGHT BACK AND ENJOY THE REST OF HER CAREER
Also,for what its worth,many people including myself have Frankels st james palace win as his most impressive feat,for a horse to be able to kick for home a full 4 and a half furlongs out and still have the ability and class to last home was truely astounding,it was a terrible ride and the hourse had no right to be able to last home and win that race
HRE. you seem to be pi...ed off that Frankel is not getting the cow towing royal forelocking tugging experience that your expecting. Relax, champ, take some medication and convince yourself that the MAJORITY of aussie horse lovers analysts etc. etc. think Frankel IS A DEAD SET CHAMPION. When will you realise they are different sex, different distance, different time zone, ....... fkn DIFFERENT.... but both ARE CHAMPIONS.
no way will they retire her unless she is injured, we will see her this comming spring
HRE - I think you'll find that she won that race and that's all that matters, despite the jockey not riding her out. Winners are grinners and HRE can go and **** himself
I spoke to her maj on course this week and she is a big fan of Chosir,the best sprinter you have ever sent over
Some expert, maybe you should check yours facts.
Facts and figures don't lie, Black Caviar ran 1.1seconds faster that a mile superior in anyones language.
Furthermore racing victoria didn't have a watering policy back then to artificially create a dead track condition before each race meeting as the ideal surface so Black Caviar's performance was vastly superior.
But I suppose you know more than Choisir's trainer and that of Miss Andrettti's trainer and Scenic Blast's trainer and Takeover Target's trainer etc who have all repeatedly stated publicly theur horses aren't and never were even in the same street as Black Caviar.
Choisir's Lightning Stakes
9/02/2003
FLEMINGTON Race 5 1000m Track Good
Lightning Stakes G1 W WFA G Boss(1) 54.5kg Time 0.56.63 last 600m 32.49 margin 0.8 length
Black Caviars
18/02/2012
FLEMINGTON (R6)1000m Track Good
Lightning Stakes G1 W 752.5K LUKE NOLEN (5) 56.5kg Time 0.55.53 last 600m 31.78 Margin 1.8 lengths
Facts and figures don't lie, Black Caviar ran 1.1seconds faster that a mile superior in anyones language.
Furthermore racing victoria didn't have a watering policy back then to artificially create a dead track condition before each race meeting as the ideal surface so Black Caviar's performance was vastly superior.
But I suppose you know more than Choisir's trainer and that of Miss Andrettti's trainer and Scenic Blast's trainer and Takeover Target's trainer etc who have all repeatedly stated publicly theur horses aren't and never were even in the same street as Black Caviar.
Choisir's Lightning Stakes
9/02/2003
FLEMINGTON Race 5 1000m Track Good
Lightning Stakes G1 W WFA G Boss(1) 54.5kg Time 0.56.63 last 600m 32.49 margin 0.8 length
Black Caviars
18/02/2012
FLEMINGTON (R6)1000m Track Good
Lightning Stakes G1 W 752.5K LUKE NOLEN (5) 56.5kg Time 0.55.53 last 600m 31.78 Margin 1.8 lengths
KEEP TALKING LADS,THAT SEEMS TO BE ALL YOUR GOOD AT
1. TALKING SH1T
2. HYPING UP HOSRES
THE FACT IS THAT THE WORLD OF RACING WAS WATCHING AND THE WORLD OF RACING NOW KNOWS THE TRUTH ABOUT BC
SO FIND ANOTHER SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE NAG TO HYPE UP
LIST OF THE MOST OVERRATED AND OVERHYPED HORSES IN THE WORLD
1. BLACK CAVIAR (PROVEN)
2. SO YOU THINK (PROVEN)
AND BOTH FROM AUS,SURPRISE SURPRISE
THE WORLD WAS WATCHING AND THE WORLD NOW KNOWS
I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS THOUGHT
1. TALKING SH1T
2. HYPING UP HOSRES
THE FACT IS THAT THE WORLD OF RACING WAS WATCHING AND THE WORLD OF RACING NOW KNOWS THE TRUTH ABOUT BC
SO FIND ANOTHER SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE NAG TO HYPE UP
LIST OF THE MOST OVERRATED AND OVERHYPED HORSES IN THE WORLD
1. BLACK CAVIAR (PROVEN)
2. SO YOU THINK (PROVEN)
AND BOTH FROM AUS,SURPRISE SURPRISETHE WORLD WAS WATCHING AND THE WORLD NOW KNOWS
I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS THOUGHT
And who came second and third? Two frenchies. Where were the english plodders? Nowhere to be seen. TURD
Hey HRE
Report from the paper today:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/black-caviar-tears-two-muscles-in-diamond-jubilee-stakes-win-at-royal-ascot/story-fn67siys-1226406958515
"UNBEATEN Black Caviar was on Sunday night diagnosed with two muscle tears and severe bruising to her hind quarters following her famous win in the Diamond Jubilee Stakes at Royal Ascot."
"Given the vagaries of travel, Nolen's riding blunder and the injuries the mare sustained during the race, the Diamond Jubilee Stakes may now go down as one of her greatest of her 22 wins."
"Black Caviar certainly wasn't at her supreme best but she was still able to win the 12th Group 1 win of her career, taking her prizemoney to more than $6.5 million."
That says SO much about your english DUD "sprinters" HAHAHA
Report from the paper today:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/black-caviar-tears-two-muscles-in-diamond-jubilee-stakes-win-at-royal-ascot/story-fn67siys-1226406958515
"UNBEATEN Black Caviar was on Sunday night diagnosed with two muscle tears and severe bruising to her hind quarters following her famous win in the Diamond Jubilee Stakes at Royal Ascot."
"Given the vagaries of travel, Nolen's riding blunder and the injuries the mare sustained during the race, the Diamond Jubilee Stakes may now go down as one of her greatest of her 22 wins."
"Black Caviar certainly wasn't at her supreme best but she was still able to win the 12th Group 1 win of her career, taking her prizemoney to more than $6.5 million."
That says SO much about your english DUD "sprinters" HAHAHA
and the fact that you believe everything you read or you are told says it all reallythey are called cover stories my friend,they are used all the time in all aspects of life when things go wrong,or others might call them 'LIES'
What part of this is a cover story or lie:
"Black Caviar certainly wasn't at her supreme best but she was still able to win"
And by the way - Where are your plodders. Still running? HAHAHA
"Black Caviar certainly wasn't at her supreme best but she was still able to win"
And by the way - Where are your plodders. Still running? HAHAHA
I know imbecile is used to describe a person with the intelligence of an average 5 yo. I think we should extend the term to encompass HRE, who has the maturity of one.
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KEEP TALKING LADS,THAT SEEMS TO BE ALL YOUR GOOD AT
1. TALKING SH1T
2. HYPING UP HOSRES
THE FACT IS THAT THE WORLD OF RACING WAS WATCHING AND THE WORLD OF RACING NOW KNOWS THE TRUTH ABOUT BC
SO FIND ANOTHER SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE NAG TO HYPE UP
LIST OF THE MOST OVERRATED AND OVERHYPED HORSES IN THE WORLD
1. BLACK CAVIAR (PROVEN)
2. SO YOU THINK (PROVEN)
AND BOTH FROM AUS,SURPRISE SURPRISE
THE WORLD WAS WATCHING AND THE WORLD NOW KNOWS
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KEEP TALKING LADS,THAT SEEMS TO BE ALL YOUR GOOD AT
1. TALKING SH1T
2. HYPING UP HOSRES
THE FACT IS THAT THE WORLD OF RACING WAS WATCHING AND THE WORLD OF RACING NOW KNOWS THE TRUTH ABOUT BC
SO FIND ANOTHER SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE NAG TO HYPE UP
LIST OF THE MOST OVERRATED AND OVERHYPED HORSES IN THE WORLD
1. BLACK CAVIAR (PROVEN)
2. SO YOU THINK (PROVEN)
AND BOTH FROM AUS,SURPRISE SURPRISE
THE WORLD WAS WATCHING AND THE WORLD NOW KNOWS
Aussies, I would like to inform you that most decent form students I know here in the Northern Hemisphere fully realise she was well below form, and it is a testament to her ability that she managed to win despite obvious problems: that is the hallmark of a champion.
'The world was watching and the world now knows.'
Dear oh dear HRE, the world has been watching her for quite some time now! The world knows what she has done down under and the world knows she's a true champion.
'The world was watching and the world now knows.'
Dear oh dear HRE, the world has been watching her for quite some time now! The world knows what she has done down under and the world knows she's a true champion.
CAN I JUST SAY THAT IF AT ANY POINT THAT ONE OF MY TIPS ON THIS FORUM LOSSES,LETS JUST PUT IT DOWN TO ME HAVING AN OFF DAY AND NOT BEING WELL SHALL WE SO I AM 100% ON ALL TIPS,AS IF ONE LOSES,THEN I WAS SICK THAT DAY,SO IT DOES NOT COUNT
SO I AM 100% ON ALL TIPS,AS IF ONE LOSES,THEN I WAS SICK THAT DAY,SO IT DOES NOT COUNT
No, but the horse you tipped is entitled to have an off day 
Champions overcome difficulties to win - she has done that, give her a nice long spell and am for 27 i say
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