and - their rate of renewables, alternatives will beat their target as well

too many dying over their due to the pollution

AND

both Twiggy and Gina know the end for coal is nigh and are looking for new products - beef for Twiggy, milk products for Gina (did they get the heads up on the FTA??? )

wouldnt want wings like bats Mikey..5k of them gone cos of the extreme heat..for this time year..in casino

doesnt take much to fish out a denier either

Climate Myth...

Heatwaves have happened before
"Australia has always had extreme heat, droughts, bushfire and flooding rains... Whatever is the extent of global warming and any human contribution to climate change, exaggerating the 2013 heatwave is just another green lie which will blow up in all our faces." (Miranda Devine)

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What the Science says....

Global warming is causing more frequent heatwaves. Record-breaking temperatures are already happening five times more often than they would without any human-caused global warming. This means that there is an 80% chance that any monthly heat record today is due to human-caused global warming.

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Figure 1: Likelihood of heat records compared to those expected in a world without global warming.

What will heatwaves be like in the future? If we contine to rely heavily on fossil fuels, extreme heatwaves will become the norm across most of the world by the late 21st century. However, if we take major steps to reduce human greenhouse gas emissions, the number of extreme heatwaves will stabilize after 2040. Either way, we will see more heatwaves, but how much more depends on us.

However, the growing risk from heatwaves is ignored by some who argue that heatwaves have happened in the past, hence current heatwaves must be natural.

This line of argument is logically flawed, using a logical fallacy called a non sequitor (Latin for 'it does not follow'). This is a fallacy where your starting statement does not lead to your conclusion.

For example, this is like arguing that people have died of cancer long before cigarettes were invented, hence smoking can't cause cancer.

The longer we continue to rely on fossil fuels and the higher our greenhouse gas emissions, the more extreme heat we'll lock in. If we manage to take serious action to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions, we can limit global warming to a level where extreme heat events will become more commonplace, but we can manage to adapt to.

Last updated on 31 January 2014 by John Cook. View Archives

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Logical fallacy...non sequitor....Logicaly flawed....Miranda Devine...

How pathetic


We have had heat waves before he/she points out as if it destroys the arguement for Human caused Climate Change


this is like arguing that people have died of cancer long before cigarettes were invented, hence smoking can't cause cancer.

PATHETIC.

According to his official biography at Australia’s Queensland University, John Cook is a researcher/postdoctoral fellow. He is the creator of the misleadingly-titled SkepticalScience.com website (it’s a ferocious defender of non-skeptical climate thought).

Over at The Conversation website, Cook’s profile says he earned a bachelor of science back in 1989. Although he currently holds three positions with two different Australian universities – adjunct researcher, adjunct lecturer, and climate communication research fellow – no other academic degrees are listed. We’re advised that his current research interests are in “Psychology And Cognitive Sciences.”

Those of us unfamiliar with Australian academia are left scratching our heads. If Cook has completed a Masters and a PhD why doesn’t his bio say so? If he hasn’t, how can he be a postdoctoral fellow?

Between 1995 and 2010, Cook was the creator of a popular web-based comic strip. In 2011, the Australian museum recognized the contribution Cook’s SkepticalScience website has made to the “Advancement of Climate Change Knowledge.” Cook pocketed $10,000 and can now claim to have won a prestigious Eureka Prize.

I invite you to visit the official web page where the awarding of that prize is announced. It begins in this oh-so-scientific manner:


Climate-change deniers have nowhere to hide thanks to an ingenious piece of software that detects inaccurate statements on global warming that appear on the internet and delivers an automated response on Twitter citing peer-reviewed scientific evidence.

The so-called ‘Twitter-bot’ is the brainchild of Australian webmaster John Cook and software developer Nigel Leck, and is part of an armoury of tools Cook has developed to rebut common myths and inaccuracies about climate change. [bold added, page backed up here]

The SkepticalScience website itself has a bio of Cook which includes this line: “He is not a climate scientist.”

Which is why we can expect him to be writing with all haste to the news outlet FrenchTribune.com to request a correction to today’s story headlined Climate Change Likened to Atom Bomb by Scientists.

Although that article talks about “climate scientists” it names and quotes exactly one person – Cook himself. Moreover, the claims here are nothing short of fantastical. It says that climate scientists


have given figures of rising and changing climate. These figures are almost like a warning that states that escalating temperatures are equivalent to four Hiroshima bombs in a week.

They’ve completely attributed the condition to human actions.

It’s clear that this reporter’s first language is not English, so I’m sure she has misunderstood. No official document of which I’m aware has declared humans 100% responsible for current temperature trends (see, for example, the discussion here).

This is what comes next:


“All these heat-trapping greenhouse gases in our atmosphere mean…our planet has been building up heat at the rate of about four Hiroshima bombs every second – consider that going continuously for several decades”, John Cook, Climate Communication Fellow from the Global Change Institute at the University of Queensland said. [ellipsis in the original, news story backed up here]

Welcome to online journalism in 2013. Articles get written about what “climate scientists” have concluded. The only person who gets mentioned is a long way from being a climate scientist.

Nevertheless we should be worried, very worried. Because, you know, atom bombs are involved.

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Postcript: It appears that the FrenchTribune story was based on one published in The Australian newspaper about a speech Cook recently gave in Sydney. It bears the headline: Climate change like atom bomb: scientists.

In that story, as well, Cook is the only person quoted or cited (the story is backed up here).

This is all it takes to score a headline in a major newspaper containing the term “atom bomb.” Not one climate scientist is actually named – and not a single piece of scientific research is cited in the body of that story. But hey, a non-climate-scientist has made these claims in a speech so they must be true.





This guy is an opportunist and makes sheet up , NO CRED

The year is 2200...humans now live in underground cities, the temperature above ground is 70.
Meanwhile on the Betfair forum this thread continues, Thebas' descendant has just posted that there's a record in the Bible of temperatures hitting 75 in 3000B.C.

yes Secong - record snow i.e ANOTHER extreme weather event

whoopi

The year is 2200...humans now live in underground cities,

Its already started !!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M75R3m_xFI

these ****s..NFI speshally asbestos Julie,shut ya mouth..destroying the joint ...****s


Julie Bishop's claim that the Great Barrier Reef isn't in danger defies what the world's scientists say, an Australian expert says.
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The Abbott government's claim that the Great Barrier Reef isn't in danger defies all available science including its own, a leading world expert on coral reefs says.

Professor Terry Hughes, who is the director of the Australian Research Council Centre of Excellence for Coral Reef Studies, says there's an extraordinary disconnect between the government's position and what scientists across the globe are saying.

He said even the federal government's own reef outlook report, released earlier this year, found the reef was in poor condition and was deteriorating, with climate change the primary threat.

Foreign Minister Julie Bishop this week challenged US President Barack Obama over his climate change speech on the sidelines of the G20 summit in Brisbane.

She said her office had sent President Obama a briefing on federal preservation efforts, after he used the speech to warn natural wonders like the reef were under direct threat without climate change action.

"We do not believe that it is in danger," Ms Bishop told Sky News on Friday.

"In fact the Australian government is making every effort to ensure that the Great Barrier Reef is preserved for generations to come."

The briefing cited a ban on resource exploration and dredge dumping near the reef and the $180 million annually provided by the federal and state governments to manage the reef's health.

Prof Hughes said he couldn't explain why Ms Bishop's views were so far removed from the science.

"I think you'll have to ask her that," he told AAP.

"It's just not credible to say you are protecting the Great Barrier Reef while doing nothing about climate change."

He said scientists had also roundly condemned the federal government's recent draft 2050 reef plan.

"The focus of the plan isn't protection and conservation ... rather it's about sustainable development," he said.

Government support for the development of the vast Carmichael coal mine in the Galilee basin is also inconsistent with reef protection, he said.

"(The mine) will have a Co2 footprint that's three times larger than New Zealand's if it goes ahead," he said.

"I loved Obama's speech. I thought it was spot on. And it really highlights how out of step Australia's climate change policy is."

Professor Ove Hoegh-Guldberg, head of University of Queensland's Global Change Institute, applauded Mr Obama's speech, adding that coral cover had shrunk by half over the past three decades.

He said climate change was one of the major threats to the reef as it increased the ocean's acidity.

"It's just chemistry ... you can't deny that," he told Fairfax.

"We have one of the jewels of the planet in our possession and we should care a lot about climate and he (Mr Obama) wasn't getting that from our leader."

UNESCO has given Australia until February to show it is properly managing the reef. If it's not satisfied with the response, the reef could be listed as a World Heritage site in danger.

GREAT BARRIER REEF OUTLOOK REPORT 2014 IN BRIEF

* Overall outlook of reef rated as poor

* Government investment had some positive results, including reduced pollutant run-off

* Climate change remains biggest threat, despite improvements in past five years

* Other threats include poor water quality from run-off and coastal development

* Northern third of reef has good water quality, but other areas are in jeopardy

* Major storms and floods in recent years have impacted the ecosystem

* The report noted progress in the rising numbers of humpback whales, estuarine crocodiles and loggerhead turtles.

thing is..Rupert cant pay off every scientist or journo..the real story gets out eventually..sorry flat earthers


UK Tories slam Tony Abbott on climate policy

the attitude of Prime Minister Tony Abbott to the global challenges of climate change is "eccentric", "baffling" and "flat earther", according to a group of senior British Conservatives.

The group, including Prime Minister David Cameron's Minister for Energy and a former Thatcher Minister and chairman of the Conservative Party, says Mr Abbot's position on climate change represents a betrayal of the fundamental ideals of Conservatism and those of his political heroine, Margaret Thatcher.

In a series of wide-ranging, separate interviews on UK climate change policy with The Age, they warn that Australia is taking enormous risks investing in coal and will come under increasing market and political pressure to play its part in the global battle against climate change.
Their comments come almost 25 years to the day since former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher addressed the United Nations to place climate change on the global environmental agenda. "It is mankind and his activities which are changing the environment of our planet in damaging and dangerous ways,"  she said
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Mr Abbott, as recently as June, insisted he should not be stereotyped as a conventional traditionalist, declaring he wanted to be a "reforming conservative" in the mould of Mrs Thatcher.

According to Lord Deben, chairman of the independent Climate Change Commission and a minister in both the Thatcher and Major governments,  Australia will come under increasing market pressure to respond to the global shift toward renewable energy.

A  former chairman of the British Conservative Party, Lord Deben said Mr Abbott has betrayed the fundamental tenets of conservatism itself.

"I have no doubt that people like David Cameron will be saying to Tony Abbott 'look conservatives are supposed to conserve, they are supposed to hand on to the next generation something better than they received themselves'."

Tim Yeo, chairman of the UK's parliamentary select committee on energy and climate change and a former environment minister under John Major, likened those who question the existence and the science of climate change as "the flat earthers of the 16th century".

"Some of us are very perplexed. I was last in Australia at the beginning of last year, before the election and had conversations with people on both sides of the political divide. I was amazed at some of the views.

"If I was Australian, I'd be concerned if my country's economic future and prosperity became dependent on continued coal export."

The United Kingdom led the world in 2008 by legislating for long-term, ambitious emissions reductions of 80 per cent by 2050 – and has already achieved a 25 per cent drop on 1990 levels. In June, David Cameron opened the world's largest offshore wind farm with 175 turbines in the Thames Estuary.

Almost 20 per cent of Britain's electricity is now produced by renewables, with eight per cent powered by wind – equivalent to about 6.5 million homes.

The UK's energy market reforms and the drive to transform the economy to a low carbon model are supported by all the major political parties.

Greg Barker, David Cameron's Minister for Energy and Climate Change until June this year said: "I think there is a lot of concern about Australia and yes, perhaps it is disproportionate versus its place in the global economy. But because of [our] close historical, emotional and family ties, people are concerned, slightly baffled by the approach that Australia is taking which looks, actually, slightly eccentric," he said.

Mr Abbott declined to comment.

Thatcher was a scientist wasn't she? or a fan at any rate

Enjoy the weekend

the planets average temperatures are high than they've ever been and that's resulting in more extreme weather events - just like the scientists have predicted

didnt the PM say we have too many "locked up" forests..

the planets average temperatures are high than they've ever been and that's resulting in more extreme weather events - just like the scientists have predicted

A total fabrication womble....


BIGGEST RORT EVER

on the climate change thread ffs womble LOL

and apart from being disengenous .. this is exactly the weather we would get 20 years ago

summer storms from 4pm each night ... for months

... but adam the goose bandt would probably think this was ... reason for rampant alarmism ...

and adam would probably blame co2   (instead of the real culprits ...china & Obama )

and they never had any such events prior to records coming in did they......weve got records for what 150 years? or less...and this is a guide to all time...billions of years???...lol the sample size has about as much relevance as 1 drop in the ocean making a difference to the levels

#ijusttookadump
#omglookatthehail
#omgidonthavealife

Second:



(looks like you have taken your funny pill this morning)