Couldn't agree more, he could be chucked in here of 153 if he takes to the fences (which admittedly is always a concern and especially for a horse who isn't the biggest). He beat DC 10 lengths 2 years back and was only 3 lengths back from SVC last year. His spring form is pretty much mustard. There is alot to like
Couldn't agree more, he could be chucked in here of 153 if he takes to the fences (which admittedly is always a concern and especially for a horse who isn't the biggest). He beat DC 10 lengths 2 years back and was only 3 lengths back from SVC last ye
hot and cold doesn't begin to describe this one . Terrific performance at the festival, yet still recollect an awful round of jumping over the Mildmay course.
hot and cold doesn't begin to describe this one . Terrific performance at the festival, yet still recollect an awful round of jumping over the Mildmay course.
Yeah he can put in a bad round but i think his style will be suited to the GN course. Sunnyhillboy for the same trainer ran like a drain up until the festival then ran a mighty race in the GN.
Yeah he can put in a bad round but i think his style will be suited to the GN course.Sunnyhillboy for the same trainer ran like a drain up until the festival then ran a mighty race in the GN.
Holywell seems like a complicated horse to judge if he is to be on song or not but there seems to be a connection between him running well and wearing his blinkers on decent ground.
I actually don't think he is that hard to weigh up, connections have been rather clever again, getting one so well handicapped.
Holywell seems like a complicated horse to judge if he is to be on song or not but there seems to be a connection between him running well and wearing his blinkers on decent ground.I actually don't think he is that hard to weigh up, connections have
Has to be on everyones shortlist His Cheltenham/Aintree form over the years is tremendous and how Jonjo has got this Hcap mark especially based on Coneygree's GC is a masterstroke
Has to be on everyones shortlistHis Cheltenham/Aintree form over the years is tremendousand how Jonjo has got this Hcap mark especially based on Coneygree's GC is a masterstroke
Looked him up expecting to see him off around 11-6, couldn't believe he is off 10-12.
Has been to Cheltenham then Aintree the last three years:
2013 1st at Cheltenham (Pertemps Final) 2nd at Aintree (G1 Liverpool Hurdle)
2014 1st at Cheltenham (G3 handicap chase) 1st at Aintree (G1 Mildmay novices chase)
2015 4th at Cheltenham (G1 Gold Cup) 3rd at Aintree (G1 Betfred Bowl)
2016 2nd at Cheltenham (G3 handicap chase off top weight)
Unbelievable spring record at the big festivals. My question mark would be if his jumping is fluent enough to be efficient and get into a nice rhythm over the national fences as I've never had him down as a really good jumper, but watched last week's race back and thought he was decent enough.
Definitely playing this one.
I'm in.Looked him up expecting to see him off around 11-6, couldn't believe he is off 10-12.Has been to Cheltenham then Aintree the last three years:20131st at Cheltenham (Pertemps Final)2nd at Aintree (G1 Liverpool Hurdle)20141st at Cheltenham (G3 h
boy wonder 07 24 Mar 16 14:04 had to bet him at 16/1 nr no bet as he is the best handicapped in the race plus the good run in Cheltenham
Isn't The Last Samuri the best handicapped ?
boy wonder 07 24 Mar 16 14:04 had to bet him at 16/1 nr no bet as he is the best handicapped in the race plus the good run in CheltenhamIsn't The Last Samuri the best handicapped ?
I don't believe the last samurai is a 161 horse, druids nephew was probably still undercooked and the third was well beaten at Cheltenham. Yes he has a great chance as he looks like he stays, jumps well and is in form but IMO he is not 12lb well in. If you agree with the handicapper that he is 12lb well in he has to be a maximum bet. I really like holywell granted a clear found. His form last season's gold cup reads excellently in the context of this race. I backed him at Cheltenham and feel he ran into a super handicapped horse. There was a long way back to the third and he has previous form which would easy put him into the mid 160's without any doubt.
I don't believe the last samurai is a 161 horse, druids nephew was probably still undercooked and the third was well beaten at Cheltenham. Yes he has a great chance as he looks like he stays, jumps well and is in form but IMO he is not 12lb well in.
I also doubt that The Last Samuri is a 161 horse on what we have seen but i think he could be over 4 miles 2f 74 yards, although still on the inexperienced side he looks every inch a GN horse.
I also doubt that The Last Samuri is a 161 horse on what we have seen but i think he could be over 4 miles 2f 74 yards, although still on the inexperienced side he looks every inch a GN horse.
I cant help but think that if he takes to the fences then Holywell could very well be this years winner. A touch of class about him, nobody better than Jonjo in training staying chasers and he also had a winner yesterday.
Sure he's got his quirks (the horse, not Jonjo) but if Richie McLernon can get him settled and into a rhythm he could be chucked in. You'd hope he'd be no worse than midfield from the off. If he got too far back early on, you fear he'd throw the towel in.
He ran a cracking trial after been given a small break and his CV reads very well in the context of the race (beat Don Cossack and Many Clouds as a novice over the Mildmay course) and was a staying on 4th in last years Gold Cup. He tended to be a bit novicey in his younger days but still hoping for a huge run off 153 and a nice racing weight.
I cant help but think that if he takes to the fences then Holywell could very well be this years winner. A touch of class about him, nobody better than Jonjo in training staying chasers and he also had a winner yesterday. Sure he's got his quirks (th
I really don't think he's as ground dependant as people say. Last year's Gold Cup was on Soft and he stayed on very well having been on/off the bridle from the top of the hill. Have rewatched last years Bowl and a few other races this morning and he really is a stayer and a battler and I'm pretty sure he'll get the trip on todays ground. Just wish I had taken the 120s (after he was pulled up before Cheltenham) and 70s (just before the weights) on here and not saved all my cash for Cheltenham!
I've piled in today and had the winner in 04, 08 and 12 so hoping the sequence continues!
Good luck all (and fill your boots on Holywell)
I really don't think he's as ground dependant as people say. Last year's Gold Cup was on Soft and he stayed on very well having been on/off the bridle from the top of the hill. Have rewatched last years Bowl and a few other races this morning and he
mclernon looked apprenhesive at both fences and paid the price.
When i seen him out wide at the back i knew he was minding himself and hoping to hunt around out of trouble.
Winners now are mainly prominently ridden though.
I expected a big run but jockey was my main concern.
mclernon looked apprenhesive at both fences and paid the price.When i seen him out wide at the back i knew he was minding himself and hoping to hunt around out of trouble.Winners now are mainly prominently ridden though. I expected a big run but joc
I think it was so bizarre he was so short... despite having form on soft ground... was never gonna win a National on that ground - he needed good to soft to even stand a chance...
I think it was so bizarre he was so short... despite having form on soft ground... was never gonna win a National on that ground - he needed good to soft to even stand a chance...
I backed both him and Silvianaco Conti on the Friday in the hope the rain stayed away. I couldn't believe that I could cash out for a small profit not only after the downpour overnight but then after the rain during the afternoon.
I backed both him and Silvianaco Conti on the Friday in the hope the rain stayed away. I couldn't believe that I could cash out for a small profit not only after the downpour overnight but then after the rain during the afternoon.
Well that was a result nobody wants didn't even get a run for our money,I think writing was on the wall after the first fence. My goodness 11/1 only just looking at SPs that is unreal,i went out to watch it so was well oiled by the time the race started didn't even know the ground was heavy. I still have nightmares about Sunnyhillboy so Richie will never be my fav jockey anyway. Holywell can have another stab next year.
Well that was a result nobody wants didn't even get a run for our money,I think writing was on the wall after the first fence.My goodness 11/1 only just looking at SPs that is unreal,i went out to watch it so was well oiled by the time the race start
Yeah as soon as he fluffed the first I had a feeling it wasn't just a one off error. On the way to the second you could almost sense him thinking 'what the f*ck is this?' about the race.
Ground definitely went against him but in the end it was irrelevant. Had 16s and with all the rain I thought he would drift, but for some reason people kept backing him. Mad.
Yeah as soon as he fluffed the first I had a feeling it wasn't just a one off error. On the way to the second you could almost sense him thinking 'what the f*ck is this?' about the race.Ground definitely went against him but in the end it was irrelev
In the Mildmay in 2014 he blundered his way through the race, the blinkers were OFF. The reason why Jonjo takes the blinkers off from time to time is were the murky river runs deep.
He is actually an easy horse to work out.Blinkers on ground no worse than good/soft.In the Mildmay in 2014 he blundered his way through the race, the blinkers were OFF.The reason why Jonjo takes the blinkers off from time to time is were the murky ri