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Cheers guys. Had fancied The Package since last November and had some fancy prices on him
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There is also now an article on the RP website saying What a Friend is the likely top weight.
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Form Horse Age/Wgt Owner Trainer
1) 51U/1P/-2 IMPERIAL COMMANDER (IRE) 12-11-10 Our Friends in the North Nigel Twiston-Davies 2) P/33F0-0 WHAT A FRIEND 10-11-09 Ged Mason & Sir Alex Ferguson Paul Nicholls 3) 3PF-4PP WEIRD AL (IRE) 10-11-08 Brannon Dick Holden Donald McCain 4) 51/51-12 PRINCE DE BEAUCHENE (FR) 10-11-07 Andrea & Graham Wylie Willie Mullins IRE 5) 1113-04 QUEL ESPRIT (FR) 9-11-07 Red Barn Syndicate Willie Mullins IRE 6) 40/-U312 BIG FELLA THANKS 11-11-06 Crossed Fingers Partnership Tom George 7) 0-1U355 ROBERTO GOLDBACK (IRE) 11-11-06 Simon Munir Nicky Henderson 8) 1113-23 SEABASS (IRE) 10-11-06 Gunners Syndicate Ted Walsh IRE 9) 1/46-P03 BALLABRIGGS (IRE) 12-11-04 Trevor Hemmings Donald McCain 10) P012-5P SUNNYHILLBOY (IRE) 10-11-04 J P McManus Jonjo O'Neill 11) 11-0620 TEAFORTHREE (IRE) 9-11-03 T437 Rebecca Curtis 12) 3-11201 ACROSS THE BAY (IRE) 9-11-02 Scotch Piper Syndicate Donald McCain 13) 1P3-02P JOIN TOGETHER (IRE) 8-11-02 Ian Fogg & Paul Barber Paul Nicholls 14) 130654 BOB LINGO (IRE) 11-11-01 J P McManus Tom Mullins IRE 15) 413-5211 COLBERT STATION (IRE) 9-11-01 J P McManus Ted Walsh IRE 16) 214122 TOFINO BAY (IRE) 10-11-01 Gigginstown House Stud Dessie Hughes IRE 17) 2P1536 FORPADYDEPLASTERER (IRE) 11-11-00 Goat Racing Syndicate Thomas Cooper IRE 18) P1/B1F-1 ON HIS OWN (IRE) 9-11-00 Andrea & Graham Wylie Willie Mullins IRE 19) 0-35233 JONCOL (IRE) 10-10-13 Kay Browne Paul Nolan IRE 20) 10511-P LION NA BEARNAI (IRE) 11-10-13 The Lock Syndicate Tom Gibney IRE 21) P0F1-12 BALTHAZAR KING (IRE) 9-10-12 The Brushmakers Philip Hobbs 22) 6F2264 BOSTONS ANGEL (IRE) 9-10-11 Elder Scouller Jessica Harrington IRE 23) 1334-22 CAPPA BLEU (IRE) 11-10-11 William & Angela Rucker Evan Williams 24) 2/4-4U60 OSCAR TIME (IRE) 12-10-11 Robert Waley-Cohen/Sir Martin & Steve Broughton Martin Lynch IRE 25) 44001-00 ALWAYS WAINING (IRE) 12-10-10 Mr & Mrs Peter Douglas Peter Bowen 26) 31P/PP-4 QUINZ (FR) 9-10-10 Andrew Cohen Philip Hobbs 27) 15U-606 TATENEN (FR) 9-10-10 The Stewart Family Richard Rowe 28) 1/U121/5- BESHABAR (IRE) 11-10-09 Middleham Park Racing X & Ann Burrows Tim Vaughan 29) 423F-01 TREACLE (IRE) 12-10-09 Bjorn Nielsen Tom Taaffe IRE 30) 011611 LOST GLORY (NZ) 8-10-08 J P McManus Jonjo O'Neill 31) U01-F430 SAINT ARE (FR) 7-10-08 David Fox Tim Vaughan 32) P-P1440 SWING BILL (FR) 12-10-08 David Johnson David Pipe 33) 1F2-110 WYCK HILL (IRE) 9-10-08 J P McManus David Bridgwater 34) B-0U631 CHICAGO GREY (IRE) 10-10-07 John Earls Gordon Elliott IRE 35) P-52202 MAGNANIMITY (IRE) 9-10-07 Gigginstown House Stud Dessie Hughes IRE 36) 010F-60 QUISCOVER FONTAINE (FR) 9-10-07 J P McManus Willie Mullins IRE 37) F-63PP5 BECAUSEICOULDNTSEE (IRE) 10-10-06 Noel Glynn Noel Glynn IRE 38) 12P-P00 HARRY THE VIKING 8-10-06 Sir Alex Ferguson, Ged Mason, R Wood & P Done Paul Nicholls 39) 3B0-643 RARE BOB (IRE) 11-10-06 D A Syndicate Dessie Hughes IRE 40) 04-311P4 THE RAINBOW HUNTER 9-10-06 May We Never Be Found Out Partnership Kim Bailey 41) 236026 MR MOONSHINE (IRE) 9-10-05 Sue Smith Sue Smith 42) 1133FP MUMBLES HEAD (IRE) 12-10-04 Karen Bowen Peter Bowen 43) F2PP-44 PEARLYSTEPS 10-10-04 The Glazeley Partnership Henry Daly 44) 0P45F5 AURORAS ENCORE (IRE) 11-10-03 D Pryde, J Beaumont & D P van der Hoeven Sue Smith 45) 3F6042 NINETIETH MINUTE (IRE) 10-10-03 Dermot Cox Tom Taaffe IRE 46) P11420 TARQUINIUS (FR) 10-10-02 Mary Furlong Gordon Elliott IRE 47) 614U40 ANY CURRENCY (IRE) 10-10-00 Cash Is King Martin Keighley 48) 2P-265P MAJOR MALARKEY (IRE) 10-9-13 Baker, Dodd & Cooke Nigel Twiston-Davies 49) (0)6U1/-50 POKER DE SIVOLA (FR) 10-9-13 David Johnson Ferdy Murphy 50) /5000/P-P BACKSTAGE (FR) 11-9-12 MPR & Capranny Syndicate Gordon Elliott IRE 51) 621B-001 SOLL 8-9-12 Derrick Mossop Jo Hughes 52) F10203 ROMANESCO (FR) 8-9-11 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE 53) 023P25 VIKING BLOND (FR) 8-9-11 Caroline Mould Nigel Twiston-Davies 54) 2161-30 CLOUDY LANE 13-9-10 Trevor Hemmings Donald McCain 55) 000165 PENTIFFIC (NZ) 10-9-08 P Sinn, P Lawrence, L Sutcliffe, M Smith Venetia Williams 56) 0/44-060 GULLIBLE GORDON (IRE) 10-9-06 Yeh Man Partnership Peter Bowen 57) P-22150 MORTIMERS CROSS 12-9-06 John Needham John Needham 57 entries remain after March 19 scratchings deadline 22 Irish-trained THE FOLLOWING 16 HORSES HAVE BEEN SCRATCHED: ALBERTAS RUN (IRE), QUITO DE LA ROQUE (FR), KATENKO (FR), CALGARY BAY (IRE), ROI DU MEE (FR), MIDNIGHT CHASE, PLANET OF SOUND, THE PACKAGE, JESSIES DREAM (IRE), PROBLEMA TIC (FR), FRISCO DEPOT, ALFIE SHERRIN, MATUHI, TARTAK (FR), SUMMERY JUSTICE (IRE), ODYSSEAS (FR) |
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does anyone no if joncol is considered a deffo intended starter, could be just the race for him if it doesnt dry up to much
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Last I read, they were aiming Joncol at the race but it depended on whether they could get his bad back right. I'm waiting for a bit more news tbh.
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48 hr decs are 40 hrs to long for nolan,
 , so i,ll hang fire,added cappa bleu 16,s,and r goldback 50,s to my specualitive wager on tanten,334,54,s place on here, think you might as well have a punt on a few ante post because when the bookies start chopping them the week before and theres a dozen 16,s or less you start looking at the bigger odds anyway |
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traveltips
Can you tell us where you got the list from? - I usually get my lists from the Aintree website but it seems to be poorly updated this year. |
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From the racenews website
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thanks tt
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Updated with absence of Prince De Beauchene, and Beshabar. Going by other threads, Tofino Bay looks more likely to head for Fairyhouse, he won't be the only one no doubt. Looking at market on here, Lion Na Bearnai looks like he's losing his battle to get fit, trainer having previously stated he was 50/50.
Form Horse Age/Wgt Owner Trainer 1) 51U/1P/-2 IMPERIAL COMMANDER (IRE) 12-11-10 Our Friends in the North Nigel Twiston-Davies 2) P/33F0-0 WHAT A FRIEND 10-11-09 Ged Mason & Sir Alex Ferguson Paul Nicholls 3) 3PF-4PP WEIRD AL (IRE) 10-11-08 Brannon Dick Holden Donald McCain 4) 1113-04 QUEL ESPRIT (FR) 9-11-07 Red Barn Syndicate Willie Mullins IRE 5) 40/-U312 BIG FELLA THANKS 11-11-06 Crossed Fingers Partnership Tom George 6) 0-1U355 ROBERTO GOLDBACK (IRE) 11-11-06 Simon Munir Nicky Henderson 7) 1113-23 SEABASS (IRE) 10-11-06 Gunners Syndicate Ted Walsh IRE 8) 1/46-P03 BALLABRIGGS (IRE) 12-11-04 Trevor Hemmings Donald McCain 9) P012-5P SUNNYHILLBOY (IRE) 10-11-04 J P McManus Jonjo O'Neill 10) 11-0620 TEAFORTHREE (IRE) 9-11-03 T437 Rebecca Curtis 11) 3-11201 ACROSS THE BAY (IRE) 9-11-02 Scotch Piper Syndicate Donald McCain 12) 1P3-02P JOIN TOGETHER (IRE) 8-11-02 Ian Fogg & Paul Barber Paul Nicholls 13) 130654 BOB LINGO (IRE) 11-11-01 J P McManus Tom Mullins IRE 14) 413-5211 COLBERT STATION (IRE) 9-11-01 J P McManus Ted Walsh IRE 15) 214122 TOFINO BAY (IRE) 10-11-01 Gigginstown House Stud Dessie Hughes IRE 16) 2P1536 FORPADYDEPLASTERER (IRE) 11-11-00 Goat Racing Syndicate Thomas Cooper IRE 17) P1/B1F-1 ON HIS OWN (IRE) 9-11-00 Andrea & Graham Wylie Willie Mullins IRE 18) 0-35233 JONCOL (IRE) 10-10-13 Kay Browne Paul Nolan IRE 19) 10511-P LION NA BEARNAI (IRE) 11-10-13 The Lock Syndicate Tom Gibney IRE 20) P0F1-12 BALTHAZAR KING (IRE) 9-10-12 The Brushmakers Philip Hobbs 21) 6F2264 BOSTONS ANGEL (IRE) 9-10-11 Elder Scouller Jessica Harrington IRE 22) 1334-22 CAPPA BLEU (IRE) 11-10-11 William & Angela Rucker Evan Williams 23) 2/4-4U60 OSCAR TIME (IRE) 12-10-11 Robert Waley-Cohen/Sir Martin & Steve Broughton Martin Lynch IRE 24) 44001-00 ALWAYS WAINING (IRE) 12-10-10 Mr & Mrs Peter Douglas Peter Bowen 25) 31P/PP-4 QUINZ (FR) 9-10-10 Andrew Cohen Philip Hobbs 26) 15U-606 TATENEN (FR) 9-10-10 The Stewart Family Richard Rowe 27) 423F-01 TREACLE (IRE) 12-10-09 Bjorn Nielsen Tom Taaffe IRE 28) 011611 LOST GLORY (NZ) 8-10-08 J P McManus Jonjo O'Neill 29) U01-F430 SAINT ARE (FR) 7-10-08 David Fox Tim Vaughan 30) P-P1440 SWING BILL (FR) 12-10-08 David Johnson David Pipe 31) 1F2-110 WYCK HILL (IRE) 9-10-08 J P McManus David Bridgwater 32) B-0U631 CHICAGO GREY (IRE) 10-10-07 John Earls Gordon Elliott IRE 33) P-52202 MAGNANIMITY (IRE) 9-10-07 Gigginstown House Stud Dessie Hughes IRE 34) 010F-60 QUISCOVER FONTAINE (FR) 9-10-07 J P McManus Willie Mullins IRE 35) F-63PP5 BECAUSEICOULDNTSEE (IRE) 10-10-06 Noel Glynn Noel Glynn IRE 36) 12P-P00 HARRY THE VIKING 8-10-06 Sir Alex Ferguson, Ged Mason, R Wood & P Done Paul Nicholls 37) 3B0-643 RARE BOB (IRE) 11-10-06 D A Syndicate Dessie Hughes IRE 38) 04-311P4 THE RAINBOW HUNTER 9-10-06 May We Never Be Found Out Partnership Kim Bailey 39) 236026 MR MOONSHINE (IRE) 9-10-05 Sue Smith Sue Smith 40) 1133FP MUMBLES HEAD (IRE) 12-10-04 Karen Bowen Peter Bowen 41) F2PP-44 PEARLYSTEPS 10-10-04 The Glazeley Partnership Henry Daly 42) 0P45F5 AURORAS ENCORE (IRE) 11-10-03 D Pryde, J Beaumont & D P van der Hoeven Sue Smith 43) 3F6042 NINETIETH MINUTE (IRE) 10-10-03 Dermot Cox Tom Taaffe IRE 44) P11420 TARQUINIUS (FR) 10-10-02 Mary Furlong Gordon Elliott IRE 45) 614U40 ANY CURRENCY (IRE) 10-10-00 Cash Is King Martin Keighley 46) 2P-265P MAJOR MALARKEY (IRE) 10-9-13 Baker, Dodd & Cooke Nigel Twiston-Davies 47) (0)6U1/-50 POKER DE SIVOLA (FR) 10-9-13 David Johnson Ferdy Murphy 48) /5000/P-P BACKSTAGE (FR) 11-9-12 MPR & Capranny Syndicate Gordon Elliott IRE 49) 621B-001 SOLL 8-9-12 Derrick Mossop Jo Hughes 50) F10203 ROMANESCO (FR) 8-9-11 Gigginstown House Stud Gordon Elliott IRE 51) 023P25 VIKING BLOND (FR) 8-9-11 Caroline Mould Nigel Twiston-Davies 52) 2161-30 CLOUDY LANE 13-9-10 Trevor Hemmings Donald McCain 53) 000165 PENTIFFIC (NZ) 10-9-08 P Sinn, P Lawrence, L Sutcliffe, M Smith Venetia Williams 54) 0/44-060 GULLIBLE GORDON (IRE) 10-9-06 Yeh Man Partnership Peter Bowen 55) P-22150 MORTIMERS CROSS 12-9-06 John Needham John Needham |
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hello mate, how's it going
suggest you get on the horses I sent while the prices are big going to start the ramp next week I did send you my list didn't I |
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Nah Rick, just got your main 2. I'll have a look if you send me the full list, but for your own benefit, I'll prob not touch them, considering my Ante Post misfortune this season.
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PM me with your position dude and we'll look see what holes you can fill in before ramping starts
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Quiscover Fontaine, Magnanimity & Romanesco the only Aintree entries declared for Fairyhouse at 5-day stage.
The likes of Tofino Bay, Quel Esprit and Bostons Angel have come out, likely all bound for Aintree. |
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after Wyck Hills announcement today, 54 left
doubts still about Lion Na Bernai and Tofino Bay Romanesco, Quiscover Fontaine and Magnanimity in Irish National and all weak on here Cloudy Bay will run in the foxhunters that makes another 7 , at this rate i dont think we will get the maximum reserves, could not even be 40 runners come the big day |
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Thought the trainer announced Tofino Bay doesn't run? Novice chase at Limerick?
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Could be 37 or 38 a this rate.
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confirmation of entry stage is on Monday, still time for changes
cannot believe JP will let Quiscover run at Fairyhouse on heavy when he has lost Wyck Hill and only (ahem) has two runners - there's no money trying to get on QF for the Irish either in the AP think he will run |
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Ok non runners = Prince de Beacheane, Beshebar, Wyck Hill, Tofino Bay, Magnaminity, Across the Bay (probably), Lion Na Bearnai (probably).
That leaves Any Currency as the last horse to get in. First reserve would be either Major Malarkey or Poker de Sivola depending on the handicapper as they currently have the same weight |
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Final Irish GN decs in - Magnanimity and Romanesco run at Fairyhouse but Quiscover Fontaine taken out - bound for Aintree after all.
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Markets suspended at 12pm tomorrow for confirmation of entries. Poker de Sivola is rated higher than Major Malarkey
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Be interesting to see whether either or both Magnanimity and Romanesco remain declared today, just in case of early mishap in Irish GN today - if scenario occurs then those who have laid them at 1000 are in for a nervous few days !!
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Magnanimity scratched this morning.
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Betfair already answered part of my question - Magnanimity deleted from market 30 mins before final decs declared
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Great minds think alike Rydal - you beat me by a nanosecond lol ...
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If Pokers first reserve then David Johnson could take Pipes Swing Bill out to guarantee a run ...
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49 left
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Imperial Commander (IRE) 12 11 10
What A Friend (GB) 10 11 9 Weird Al (IRE) 10 11 8 Quel Esprit (FR) 9 11 7 Big Fella Thanks (GB) 11 11 6 Roberto Goldback (IRE) 11 11 6 Seabass (IRE) 10 11 6 Ballabriggs (IRE) 12 11 4 Sunnyhillboy (IRE) 10 11 4 Teaforthree (IRE) 9 11 3 Across The Bay (IRE) 9 11 2 Join Together (IRE) 8 11 2 Colbert Station (IRE) 9 11 1 Forpadydeplasterer (IRE) 11 11 0 On His Own (IRE) 9 11 0 Joncol (IRE) 10 10 13 Balthazar King (IRE) 9 10 12 Cappa Bleu (IRE) 11 10 11 Oscar Time (IRE) 12 10 11 Always Waining (IRE) 12 10 10 Quinz (FR) 9 10 10 Tatenen (FR) 9 10 10 Treacle (IRE) 12 10 9 Lost Glory (NZ) 8 10 8 Saint Are (FR) 7 10 8 Swing Bill (FR) 12 10 8 Chicago Grey (IRE) 10 10 7 Quiscover Fontaine (FR) 9 10 7 Becauseicouldntsee (IRE) 10 10 6 Harry The Viking (GB) 8 10 6 Rare Bob (IRE) 11 10 6 The Rainbow Hunter (GB) 9 10 6 Mr Moonshine (IRE) 9 10 5 Mumbles Head (IRE) 12 10 4 Pearlysteps (GB) 10 10 4 Auroras Encore (IRE) 11 10 3 Ninetieth Minute (IRE) 10 10 3 Tarquinius (FR) 10 10 2 Any Currency (IRE) 10 10 0 Major Malarkey (IRE) 10 9 13 Poker de Sivola (FR) 10 9 13 Backstage (FR) 11 9 12 Soll (GB) 8 9 12 Romanesco (FR) 8 9 11 Viking Blond (FR) 8 9 11 Cloudy Lane (GB) 13 9 10 Pentiffic (NZ) 10 9 8 Gullible Gordon (IRE) 10 9 6 Mortimers Cross (GB) 12 9 6 |
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Which horses ahve been eliminated?
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Six more taken out at 5-day decs .... Magnanimity; Lion Na Bearnai; Bostons Angel; Tofino Bay; Bob Lingo; Wyck Hill, leaving 49 which guarantees Any Currency a run (reserve last yr missed out)
Poker de Sivola at 40; Major Malarkey 41 and both Soll and Romanesco remain in despite rumours to the contrary. |
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When do we get a market back? Plus does the old market become visible again?
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Is Poker de Sivola definitely at 40 rather than Major Malarkey?
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Just thinking the same. Is Major Malarkey not 40?
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Poker officially rated higher than Major, although both on same weight, so without any further withdrawals from the top 40, MM would miss out.
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RP saying Major Malarkey gets in at 40.
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JHAS is right, but they won't officially apply the "ordering by current hcap mark" until final declarations, so MM is currently at number 40, but when final decs are made on Thursday, assuming things stay as they are, MM and PDS will switch around - they're both on the same mark for the race, but PDS has the higher hcap mark on declaration day.
Then again, if one above them comes out, then MM will be 39 and PDS will be 40 as when you're inside the 40, you stick to the original order - they only use the "ordering by current hcap mark" system when horses on the same mark are inside and outside the cut off. |
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Sweet as a nut be running loose off 10st poker
 Is the johnson timmy murphy partnership a thing of the pastas that would be great if he could get down to 10st to get him on board |
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today's withdrawals - P De Beauchene, Bob Lingo,Tofino Bay, Lion De Bearnai, Bostons Angel, Beshabar, Wyck Hill & Magnanimity
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Am I missing something isn't Major Malarkey and PDS current handicap mark both 133?
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132 major
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