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22 Apr 12
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pretty much everyone who have written an article about it ,or wrote a letter about,or anyone who works in racing.
the national is the one time of year that racing gets mass appeal,its like its open day,or try it first day.
so if racing wants new customers,chances they will first get the bug from the national,
so we want the most challenging safe race as possible - ask non racing fams what they want as the race is effectively aimed at them.
but be prepared that the public as a majority arent too bothered,
when you were young and watched motor sports - you only watched it for the crashes ,and the spills of the national are a selling point to the average punter,but just make the landings safe,what about staggered start 2 rows of 20 a few seconds apart,top weights behind.
but theres no point racing people second guessing normal peoples feelings.
the national is the one time of year that racing gets mass appeal,its like its open day,or try it first day.
so if racing wants new customers,chances they will first get the bug from the national,
so we want the most challenging safe race as possible - ask non racing fams what they want as the race is effectively aimed at them.
but be prepared that the public as a majority arent too bothered,
when you were young and watched motor sports - you only watched it for the crashes ,and the spills of the national are a selling point to the average punter,but just make the landings safe,what about staggered start 2 rows of 20 a few seconds apart,top weights behind.
but theres no point racing people second guessing normal peoples feelings.
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put up a suggestion along these lines last year ,,maybe slow horses that go off,slide them on in two lots 15 to 25 yards apart , quickly at same time would help starter as well back 20 or therby as normal the front a fraction earlier as the early part is being run too fast .J OCKEYS GO MANIC PACE AS BETTER HORSES ARE DOING WELL IN RACES NOW .
HUGE MONEY AT STAKE DOESN'T HELP REALLY ..M istake to tinker too much i'm afraid or the spectacle is going to be lost ?????? some expect to back a faller .if your horse wins and in first 6 on the last circuit at passing winning post on last time round lose 25% of your winnings will slow it down ,and maybe just maybe we can acheive more finishers ..?
HUGE MONEY AT STAKE DOESN'T HELP REALLY ..M istake to tinker too much i'm afraid or the spectacle is going to be lost ?????? some expect to back a faller .if your horse wins and in first 6 on the last circuit at passing winning post on last time round lose 25% of your winnings will slow it down ,and maybe just maybe we can acheive more finishers ..?
I wonder?
Following the sad death of a runner in this years London Marathon, will the organisers be considering changes to the course to make it less challenging? Perhaps reducing the distance or disallowing inexperienced entrants?
Will FIFA find a way to reduce the challenge that is football following the Muamba incident and the recent death in Italian football? Smaller pitch, 20 minute halves?
Will the organisers of the boat race consider changes in light of the harrowing scenes, broadcast to millions, when an Oxford rower collapsed in the boat?
We know the answers to these three questions and of course they are right. NH racing is too easy a target and the animal rights lobby are very adept at manipulating public sentiment, it has all pretty much blown over now - until next year.
Following the sad death of a runner in this years London Marathon, will the organisers be considering changes to the course to make it less challenging? Perhaps reducing the distance or disallowing inexperienced entrants?
Will FIFA find a way to reduce the challenge that is football following the Muamba incident and the recent death in Italian football? Smaller pitch, 20 minute halves?
Will the organisers of the boat race consider changes in light of the harrowing scenes, broadcast to millions, when an Oxford rower collapsed in the boat?
We know the answers to these three questions and of course they are right. NH racing is too easy a target and the animal rights lobby are very adept at manipulating public sentiment, it has all pretty much blown over now - until next year.
you are spot on Desmond they never miss an opportunity to bring themselves into the spotlight ,surely their efforts would be more appreciated by animals that have actually suffered cruelty.
To counter your arguement Desmond. The majority of people have not had an accident whilst driving and using a mobile phone, or being drunk at the wheel. So why do we have laws stopping the majority who can do this without hurting others?
What I'm pointing out is, you cannot bring other aspects of life into the GN arguement.
What I'm pointing out is, you cannot bring other aspects of life into the GN arguement.
I'm sorry SS, I don't buy that. The majority of motoring related deaths involve neither alcohol nor mobile phones, yet nobody has banned driving.
Besides, my examples were specifically sports orientated and I think you can therefore use them as examples of the hypocracy surrounding the National, in this instance.
As an aside, I was saddened to hear that Great Endeavour sustained a life ending injury whilst frolicking in a field on his summer break at the weekend. Perhaps horses should be banned from frolicking, or can we do something about these fields?
I suppose that the point I'm trying to make is that life in general, and sport in particular, is fraught with risk.
Besides, my examples were specifically sports orientated and I think you can therefore use them as examples of the hypocracy surrounding the National, in this instance.
As an aside, I was saddened to hear that Great Endeavour sustained a life ending injury whilst frolicking in a field on his summer break at the weekend. Perhaps horses should be banned from frolicking, or can we do something about these fields?
I suppose that the point I'm trying to make is that life in general, and sport in particular, is fraught with risk.
Cant agree with the Great Endeavour point,or indeed mptoring comparisms.
Both of those are neccessary,horses have to be in fields and we cannot ban driving.
The Grand National however is not neccessary.
Banning that would mean just one race less a year,and we could still have a substitute race instead,if so desired.
Both of those are neccessary,horses have to be in fields and we cannot ban driving.
The Grand National however is not neccessary.
Banning that would mean just one race less a year,and we could still have a substitute race instead,if so desired.
No I know horses die in fields, mine did, I see there were no fallers in the Scots National, won by a specialist in a good finish. I think the GN has been unlucky in the last 2 years, but you create your own luck. A drop in runners at this stage seems the wisest move.
How the hell can you have a substitute race for the Aintree Grand National?,The worlds greatest steeple chase!some people just haven't got a clue.
What i meant was,if the race WAS banned,maybe a similar sort of race could be introduced.
Its just sunmmising sunshine,no need to get all hot under the collar!!
Its just sunmmising sunshine,no need to get all hot under the collar!!
I disagree the Cheltenham Gold Cup is the worlds greatest steeplechase.
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tell that to the ten million plus who watched the national on the bbc, not to mention worldwide.The gold cup is the blue riband, the national will always be the greatest.
Most of those 10 million probably only had a sweepstake from the office,and a fair few of those 10 million have never heard of the Gold Cup i would wager.
Most proper race fans will say that Cheltenham is the highlight of the NH calendar,and the GC is the blue riband of Chelt.
I personally could live without a handicap,even if it is the GN,but take away Cheltenham,thats me done.
Most proper race fans will say that Cheltenham is the highlight of the NH calendar,and the GC is the blue riband of Chelt.
I personally could live without a handicap,even if it is the GN,but take away Cheltenham,thats me done.
It was the national that got me into racing at the tender age of four, take it away and Im done.Sick of the sport having to appease opportunist welfare groups who can't see the bigger picture from the top of their raised soap boxes.Let them do away with the national and cheltenham and n/h racing in general will be next on their somewhat skewed agenda.
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