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megdog1
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a win for Sussex will guarantee a place in the semi-finals, and Kent have no chance of qualifying
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Report screaming from beneaththewaves August 23, 2011 10:00 PM BST
19/13
Report cricketjon August 23, 2011 10:00 PM BST
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Report salmanvictor. August 23, 2011 10:00 PM BST
overs keft and stil 19 need last bowl is dot.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves August 23, 2011 10:00 PM BST
Yorker 19/12 Liddle on strike
Report Almagro is a no no August 23, 2011 10:00 PM BST
no chance
Report screaming from beneaththewaves August 23, 2011 10:01 PM BST
Coles to bowl
Report fairfranco August 23, 2011 10:01 PM BST
11 an over cole! [;)]
Report I win every time! August 23, 2011 10:01 PM BST
Thai lol
Report New_Punter August 23, 2011 10:01 PM BST
that last ball had to go for a boundary or at least a single to keep parnell on strike
Report screaming from beneaththewaves August 23, 2011 10:02 PM BST
High in the air Caught Tredwell
Report salmanvictor. August 23, 2011 10:02 PM BST
11 bowls and out
19 need
and last wicket.SadSad
Report cricketjon August 23, 2011 10:02 PM BST
W
Report I win every time! August 23, 2011 10:02 PM BST
Parnell or bust then. 2 sixes lol
Report Almagro is a no no August 23, 2011 10:02 PM BST
Panesar to come on and hit 3 6's
Report screaming from beneaththewaves August 23, 2011 10:02 PM BST
19 needed off 11. In walks Monty.
Report salmanvictor. August 23, 2011 10:03 PM BST
But PARNAL ON THE STRIKE.
Report hotch1234 August 23, 2011 10:03 PM BST
at least three boundaries going to be needed
Report screaming from beneaththewaves August 23, 2011 10:03 PM BST
Batsmen crossed. Parnell in strike
Report Sodiology August 23, 2011 10:03 PM BST
Come on Sussex got a massive massive green on them, would love them to win, please!
Report Almagro is a no no August 23, 2011 10:04 PM BST
Arif killed this
Report STEPTOES YARD August 23, 2011 10:04 PM BST
belly flop Laugh
Report salmanvictor. August 23, 2011 10:04 PM BST
10 BOWLS AND 2 runs. 17 need
Report screaming from beneaththewaves August 23, 2011 10:04 PM BST
DROPPED

2222222


17/10
Report Almagro is a no no August 23, 2011 10:04 PM BST
Laugh
Report I win every time! August 23, 2011 10:04 PM BST
lol
Report salmanvictor. August 23, 2011 10:04 PM BST
dot.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves August 23, 2011 10:05 PM BST
Full
Parnell tries to guide it but misses

17 off 9
Report salmanvictor. August 23, 2011 10:05 PM BST
2 runs........... 8 to 15
Report screaming from beneaththewaves August 23, 2011 10:05 PM BST
Parnell clouts a 85 mph bumper for 2

15/8
Report screaming from beneaththewaves August 23, 2011 10:06 PM BST
Parnell nisses

15/7
Report salmanvictor. August 23, 2011 10:06 PM BST
Out Game over..................

But nice wins

Good Night PlainHappyHappy
Report screaming from beneaththewaves August 23, 2011 10:08 PM BST
Scooped and caught at long on

All out
Sad

Only Parnell, Nash and Monty look 100% clean here.

Leather jackets for the rest of this vile Sussex XI.
Report bf trader August 23, 2011 10:08 PM BST
"kent take the money".

not the wisest or most astute piece of commentary at the end there.
Report bavtcc August 23, 2011 10:15 PM BST
Bad bad night for bavtcc.
Report Almagro is a no no August 23, 2011 10:19 PM BST
Could have easily got that total
Report Lix August 23, 2011 10:22 PM BST
should have pissed it but hard when at least two of your bats are playing for the oppo.

Disgusting  stuff from Sussex. Wonder if Ekkers was watching that?
Report bavtcc August 23, 2011 10:25 PM BST
What was the shortest Sussex traded during the chase?
Report Lix August 23, 2011 10:27 PM BST
1.18 [smiley:crazy]
Report Canaletto . August 23, 2011 10:28 PM BST
Lot of money traded tonight eh?
Report bavtcc August 23, 2011 10:30 PM BST
Ffs I decided to go out and watch the football (which I also ended on wrong side of) because I thought I was just getting spooked by it all market looked fine at about 1.66 when I left sussex roughly 20/0 after 3..and I didnt wanna just give my green away, dont half wish I had stayed and traded Sad
Report In Running August 23, 2011 10:50 PM BST
looked a team effort to me
Report mahe August 24, 2011 12:13 PM BST
hi guys,can I safely assume this match was fixed ? I am new to english county..is it normal here for matches to get fixed lyk this without no investigation?
Report bavtcc August 24, 2011 12:34 PM BST
No its not normal imo for english county cricket to be fixed, and although I could be accused of pocket talking as I lost quite badly on the game I dont think I am when I say it looked very very suspicious (not for the 1st time with sussex)_
Report wise-punt August 24, 2011 12:45 PM BST
At times you know a thing but do not talk about it. English county is not that badly infected than others [;)]
Report alfie46 August 24, 2011 1:11 PM BST
fix Laugh
Report Gene Hackman August 24, 2011 1:27 PM BST
Does that mean you don't think it was fixed Alfie?
The market made it look like it was,you have to admit.
Report alfie46 August 24, 2011 1:35 PM BST
maybe a couple of dubious batmans dismissals but i dont agree the match was fixed.
Report in hell August 24, 2011 1:36 PM BST
Not for the first time , Murray Goodwin and his band of bandits get the lot

Looked 100% Blatant imo , just chucked wickets away
Report bavtcc August 24, 2011 1:37 PM BST
What about the prices Alfie46? Do you really think Kent should have been odds on at 18/1 and 70 odd for 3?? Or should Sussex have been as big as 1.5 when they were 70 odd for 1 chasing?
Report alfie46 August 24, 2011 1:43 PM BST
the toss was massive,batting first almost a result decider in itself and at 70/1 the market was then questioning the importance it initally attached to that reasoning imo
Report Gene Hackman August 24, 2011 1:45 PM BST
....and the dropped Van Jaarsveld catches can be used as defence that Kent weren't in on the fix.
Report Richard LL August 24, 2011 2:08 PM BST
I don't think many are calling at it a totally fixed match, just saying that a couple of players on the Sussex side had been bought and the market made much more sense once you had factored that in.
Report wise-punt August 24, 2011 2:35 PM BST
Two run outs and one stumps. Is it normal???

It is here at the forum who idetify any abnormalities.

Even a forumite gave out the script and the events unfolded exactly as shouted.

A tip is considered valid if odds flip from 1.20 of a team to another team. Winning/losing of team becomes inconsequential

as you have already profited by the flipsSad
Report the nugget August 24, 2011 2:57 PM BST
Vincent has history and he middled a defensive push to short extra cover and then went racing half way down the wicket before turning. Plain
Report Captain Wurzel August 24, 2011 3:40 PM BST
Looked like Vincent was trying to run the guy at the other end out but he was having none of it.
Report salmanvictor. August 24, 2011 4:09 PM BST
Wise-Punt

I had already told you about all these fixings in County Cricket 2-3 months back instead i gave the full details about fixing & if it is false than why betfair removed my post from the topic "LEARN IT"If this was wrong so why my post was removed ?? Betfair doesn't wants anyone to aware you all English guys about the Fixing because betfair don't want that English people who trades on betfair or on local bookies lose trust on county cricket or say on them & if it happens than their business will be finished. I hope now you will be understand that every match is already fix and they have a script and yeah i know some matches should be fair and clear but listen 90% matches is always fix they bookies are not idiot who give you a just two way markets and you have 50% chance for a win ohhh C'MON guys well no more debut Good Luck.
Report Captain Wurzel August 24, 2011 4:22 PM BST
I think you may be over egging the pudding a touch my old china.
Report rohit79 August 24, 2011 4:59 PM BST
Saw the First half of the game and just couldnt maake sense of the odds. Kent would go donw 20 ticks after 2 singles and after a temporary blip after a wicket the odds will rush back to Sub 1.8.

Didt watch the second half as it was very late and I had an early start but I hear it was even more ridiculous. Saw the scorecard in the morning and my fears were confirmed and thn chatted with some mates

Honestly it cant be more blatant than that, both odds and the players, probably make sense as Lou Vincent and Murray Goodwin are fininshed players and have little to lose, Vincent was in the Indian Circus League.

Hopefully this game is interogated, it is a cancer that will spread f not stopped.
Report the nugget August 24, 2011 5:01 PM BST
Goodwin was ICL too, nothing will be done. V.hard to prove anything. Plain
Report salmanvictor. August 24, 2011 5:02 PM BST
I hope one day you all guys will be realize that.
Report In Running August 24, 2011 5:13 PM BST
We all know when prices are wrong as we the Betfair players generally make the markets. When it is so blatant it does not take long to smell a rat, especially over such a long period of time. IMO there were a lot more Sussex players involved than one or two. The young ginger haired Kent spinner probably had his finest hour, wonder if he has realised yet. Reckon he will go for a few more next match!!!
Report rohit79 August 24, 2011 5:33 PM BST
I have seen strange market and it iss generally market love, it corrects itself in a while when panic sets on. Bangladesh had market love in a couple of the games against Zim but when Zim were well ahead the market corrected. It never happened here, add to that the people who are known fixers get out in suspicious ways.

The biggest reasons for this are that these games are being televised in India and these guys are not expensive to buy. 250  Quid for the man of the match.These plaayers are at the end of their careers and are critical to their teams chances.
Report Lix August 24, 2011 5:49 PM BST
clearly 2 or 3 Sussex players were on the take last night.

Rohit- You understand now that I dont have any IPL vendetta?  There is no 'jelousy' as you put it. Laugh

I'm simply a punter on the lookout for dodgy stuff. Its my job.

Will have a pop at anything that looks dodgy and the prices and crucially volumes on the markets look funny.
Report rohit79 August 24, 2011 5:54 PM BST
Sure Lix - Point taken.

Let me add if I see something like what I saw last night in the IPL I will agree on the fix. 100%

Didnt follow odds in the first 3 seasons and this season saw nothing like this in both odds and behaviour.
Report the nugget August 24, 2011 6:02 PM BST
What about Brad Dodge blocking on a road and then launching the ball into the stands in the last over when the game was lost. Plain
Report the nugget August 24, 2011 6:07 PM BST
.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/indian-premier-league-2011/engine/match/501261.html

Fantastic job by Dodge hitting 22 off his last 8 balls to make his SR look respectable.

.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/indian-premier-league-2011/engine/match/501226.html

Had pretty massive doubts about this game too. Huge amounts appearing laying Pune just before they lost wickets and when does Yuvi ever score 34 from 42 balls and bat like is drunk. Didn't even attempt to go for a big shot until the game was lost.
Report rohit79 August 24, 2011 6:19 PM BST
Nugget - How were the odds.

I remember one game that looked strange. I think MI were playing, but was it in conjuntions with strange odds movement.

Will keep my eyes open and be more vigilant from now on. I wonder how the odds were in the ICL. Actually will make a thread on that
Report the nugget August 24, 2011 6:27 PM BST
Mumbai Kings XI near the end looked odd. If Kings XI lost the final 4 would have been decided with almost 2 weeks of the comp remaining. Plain Mumbai were a terrible chasing team but the market loved them all tourney till that game.
Report Lix August 24, 2011 6:32 PM BST
rohit- ICL was hilariously bait (as we say in London Happy )

The markets didnt get that much volume/liquidity but all of a sudden you'd see a lump appearing trying to lay the batting side when a certain batsman arrived at the crease. I'm talking stupid lumps-all in one go, at the same price!  like £150k-£200k lumps laying at 10-15 ticks above the 'true' market rate.

was no surprise when the batsman gets a 5 off 16 balls or something
Report wise-punt August 25, 2011 1:51 AM BST
We cannot do anything about the "repair job". What we can do is to identify the abnormality with a view to save ourselves


from loss rather benefit from the situation. Cancer is of aggressive category and widespread. PC payers shall lose their

effectiveness quickly if do not develop strategy to detect and take defensive measures.

I remember MI doing it while chasing. Tendy was party to it. Go to the thread it shall be interesting reading. Boh had

detected fishy play and put his money on other team. I remember time of the post was 1632 hours.
Report bavtcc January 12, 2012 2:10 PM GMT
This is the 2nd Sussex game I mentioned. Disgusting
Report TwoTonTed January 12, 2012 11:36 PM GMT
great bump bavPlain

these games should never be forgotton
Report screaming from beneaththewaves May 2, 2012 6:59 PM BST
ttt for Happy Valley and other Sussex supporters
Report Innocent Bystander November 16, 2012 7:45 PM GMT
Hello my old friend

Who says match fixing at an end....
Report TwoTonTed November 16, 2012 8:59 PM GMT
Mr Bystander, Mr Hawkins per chance?
Report Innocent Bystander November 17, 2012 3:41 AM GMT
just to round off this thread....they knew

http://www.sussexcricket.co.uk/news-1/club-statement-1
Report Happy Valley November 17, 2012 11:47 AM GMT
this is very intersting, i would have thought the market movements on here very indicative of a fix, given there is an intelligence report, too. surprised now that nothing has been done, indeed that everything been exonerated, smacks of a whitewash.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves November 17, 2012 11:59 AM GMT
Not at all surprised, HV. Ninety-nine per cent of the population simply would not understand the market moves outlined on this thread, or their significance, however slowly and carefully you explained them.

I'd expect that figure to rise to 100% among those employed by the various ECB and ICC anti-corruption units. After all, surely nobody who has ventured into the murky world of ball-by-ball betting on here would ever be the sort of respectable character with friends in the right places to give them jobs in cricket administration.
Report Injera November 17, 2012 12:35 PM GMT
From the Sussex statement, it says some players 'were approached'.

Do they mean by shady characters or the anti corruption unit asking them if they were on the fiddle.

I would love to see the official report into this to see if betting patterns were studied.
Report metal guru November 17, 2012 12:35 PM GMT
http://www.espncricinfo.com/cb40-11/engine/current/match/492346.html

you don't have to be clouseau to identify three players who were definitely bought plus another whose performance was highly suspicious
Report STEPTOES YARD November 17, 2012 12:41 PM GMT
Grin

remember this game
Report STEPTOES YARD November 17, 2012 12:48 PM GMT
looking back through the thread its pretty rare you get so many thinking something aint right.

Normally few on each side of the argument.
Report Injera November 17, 2012 1:16 PM GMT
Without reading thru, was this the one where Goodwin was skipper and he had Nash down at 8 when they needed 12 an over?

Parnell went in at about 6 and blocked it. Nash came in eventually and you could lip read his first words 'WTF are you doing?'

Nash then hit about 20 off one over.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves November 17, 2012 1:26 PM GMT
No. That was the one at Whitgift School vs Surrey.

The market "knew" that one too, just not as blatantly.

It also "knew" Sussex would lose to Middx at Hove in a televised CB40 the previous year.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves November 17, 2012 1:30 PM GMT
I stand to be corrected, but I believe Sussex lost every single televised game they played in 2010 and 2011.

Perhaps this Kent game was so blatant that the authorities had to have a quiet word about not being so obvious, which would explain Sussex's televised improvement this year.
Report Injera November 17, 2012 1:35 PM GMT
Thanks Screaming. Yes, you're spot on. Tiny ground chasing something massive. The batting order defied all logic.
Report TwoTonTed November 17, 2012 2:26 PM GMT
lol, the 'cast' of this thread should be called as witnesses at the trialGrin
Report Lix November 17, 2012 4:46 PM GMT
BF need to investigate the accounts of anyone who won huge on this.. A £100k+ winner would
be very suspicious esp if that account wasnt used to winning such amounts.

Guess a few  indian bookies accounts must be +/- that amount in many games tho.
Report setup November 17, 2012 5:52 PM GMT
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/13983642

Here's a link to the surrey Sussex match at whitgift. Remember Nash being well fooked off when he came in after Lou Vincent's strange (hmmmmm) innings.
Report cnman November 17, 2012 11:04 PM GMT
I was very sure this was a fix very
Report cnman November 17, 2012 11:05 PM GMT
try again:


I was very sure this was a fix very on in the match, as I posted on the 2nd or 3rd page here. Prices were ridiculous, for long periods of the game Sussex were a good 30 ticks too high
Report cnman November 17, 2012 11:05 PM GMT
try again:


I was very sure this was a fix very on in the match, as I posted on the 2nd or 3rd page here. Prices were ridiculous, for long periods of the game Sussex were a good 30 ticks too high
Report Darkforcesofevil November 18, 2012 5:47 AM GMT
Glamorgan on my corruption watch next season
Report screaming from beneaththewaves November 18, 2012 8:37 AM GMT
Does anyone know of a place I could find listed the County games broadcast live by Sky Sports in 2010 and 2011?

I went through a rough list I reconstructed last Winter and found Sussex had lost every single match, but I'd like to confirm this.

Thanks.
Report Lix January 15, 2013 2:40 PM GMT
ttt
Report cnman April 19, 2013 1:05 AM BST
Never forget
Report nigelpm1 June 8, 2013 9:57 AM BST
...
Report nigelpm1 June 8, 2013 10:00 AM BST
... just bringing the potential "fixed" games back to the top
Report screaming from beneaththewaves July 28, 2013 4:14 PM BST
Mervyn Westfield’s conviction for spot-fixing in Essex’s CB40 game against Durham in 2010 brought the reality of corruption to the heart of English cricket. A 2011 game between Kent and Sussex remains the subject of a continuing investigation.

PUBLISHED: 22:10, 27 July 2013

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2380143/West-Indies-v-Pakistan-ODI-series-investigated-betting-corruption.html?ico=sport^headlines

Shocked

Is this true? The authorities have not accepted the whitewash offered by Sussex CCC's "investigation"? How I would love to see the club nailed over this.
Report cnman December 5, 2013 1:30 AM GMT
oh hello http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-2518446/Former-New-Zealand-...
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