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Report TheNorfolkMafia July 22, 2020 7:08 PM BST
SkintofGreatYarmouth

Hunting Percival - 12.35 Uttoxeter
Report alist5. July 22, 2020 7:29 PM BST
kings castle - 5.00 ponte
Report lmlac July 22, 2020 9:12 PM BST
POS CHG  FORM    NAME                            SELECTION                        RESULT           +/-       TOTAL
1   +1  1010211 Cloughie1 (1)                    Invalid selection                                0.00      £15.31
2   -1  0310-30 Wonder Boy                      Uncle Charlie  - 6.00 Catt      Lost          -1.00      £15.25
3   +1  d110-d1 Hilly (5)                        Alpine Mistral  - 1.20 Yarm      1st 13/8        1.62       £7.65
4   -1  1111-12 posy (3)                        Know No Limits  - 5.30 Catt      2nd 11/10    -1.00       £5.97
5       3120-20 china castle (5)                Gherkin  - 2.10 Bath            Lost          -1.00       £3.15
6       1112-11 soldieroffortune (3)            Dawn Patrol  - 8.15 Naas        1st 1/8        0.12       £3.08
7   +8  1103-0d alist5. (5)                      Derry Boy  - 4.40 Bath          1st 11/4        2.75       £2.05
8       1dd0-d1 motseel (5)                      Dawn Patrol  - 8.15 Naas        1st 1/8        0.12       £2.00
9       1101-11 After_Timer (1)                  Dawn Patrol  - 8.15 Naas        1st 1/8        0.12       £1.80
9       1101-11 big_keef (1)                    Dawn Patrol  - 8.15 Naas        1st 1/8        0.12       £1.80
9       1101-11 Jesus (1)                        Dawn Patrol  - 8.15 Naas        1st 1/8        0.12       £1.80
9       1101-11 Pretend Friend (1)              Dawn Patrol  - 8.15 Naas        1st 1/8        0.12       £1.80
9       1101-11 Totally Made Up (1)              Dawn Patrol  - 8.15 Naas        1st 1/8        0.12       £1.80
14   -7  1d11-13 little.bobby (3)                Know No Limits  - 5.30 Catt      2nd 11/10    -1.00       £1.24
15   -1  d1d2-13 rob22 (3)                        Soldier Lions  - 2.50 Yarm      2nd 1/2      -1.00      -£0.47
16       11d2-1d Kentish Man (2)                  Dawn Patrol  - 8.15 Naas        1st 1/8        0.12      -£1.20
17       112d-13 DubaiPrince (2)                  Dawn Patrol  - 8.15 Naas        1st 1/8        0.12      -£1.29
18       112d-13 shearer2therestcue (2)          Dawn Patrol  - 8.15 Naas        1st 1/8        0.12      -£1.87
19   +2  2d1d-13 racing green (2)                Science  - 6.30 Catt            1st 10/11      0.64      -£2.06 ** 30p R4
20   +2  212d-13 SkyAtlantic (2)                  Dawn Patrol  - 8.15 Naas        1st 1/8        0.12      -£2.77
21   +2  1010-10 acey deucy (4)                  Dawn Patrol  - 8.15 Naas        1st 1/8        0.12      -£3.08
22   -3  0000-12 SkintofGreatYarmouth (5)        Dawson's Cottage  - 2.30 Ball    2nd 6/4      -1.00      -£3.27
23   -3  0212-31 Imnotmean                        Bold Decision  - 3.20 Yarm      3rd 6/4      -1.00      -£3.67
24       2333113 BinocularsNotNeeded (1)          Dawn Patrol  - 8.15 Naas        1st 1/8        0.12      -£3.77
25   +3  1122-13 Draw1 (5)                        Alpine Mistral  - 1.20 Yarm      1st 13/8        1.62      -£3.78
26▼   -1  21d2-11 I am the one and only223 (4)    Soldier Lions  - 2.50 Yarm      2nd 1/2      -1.00      -£5.15
27▼   -1  0300230 madhatter                        Flying Risk  - 1.00 Ball        Lost          -1.00      -£5.20
28▼   -1  212d-13 salmon spray (4)                Pink Sands  - 2.20 Yarm          3rd Evens    -1.00      -£5.47
29▼       0010-n3 Value-Seeker (3)                No Selection                                    0.00      -£6.25
30▼       2n02002 Kenny Tw@t (3)                  No Selection                                    0.00    -£14.27


If you can't post to the forum you can always send an email to napscomp@gmail.com. Put the division name in the subject and your full forum name by itself on the first line. Put your selection on the second line - format should be the usual:
Nijinski - 4.30 Plumpton
Report lmlac July 22, 2020 9:15 PM BST
Top scorer today was alist5. who jumps 8 places into 7th chalking up an 11/4 win.

After that we have Hilly  and Draw1 , both bagging a 13/8 winner.


17 winners today compared to 11 losers.

Cloughie, congratulations on taking over at the top. Your horse was withdrawn from the betfair market 12 minutes before your email was sent.

Well done all winners. Good luck tomorrow.
Report madhatter July 22, 2020 10:17 PM BST
What a wonderful evening!!!!!    ExcitedGrinGrinGrinHappyHappyHappyLaughLaughLaugh
Rock Of Fame - 8.00 Sandown
Thanks Imlac
Report Hilly July 22, 2020 10:34 PM BST
Lemon Shoulder - 1.40 Uttoexter

Cheers
Report soldieroffortune July 22, 2020 10:48 PM BST
Well played madhatter! If he'd stayed put and not gone to Stoke you would probably be in the the play-offs! DevilLaugh
Report little.bobby July 23, 2020 7:33 AM BST
Dark Vision
  3-20 ponetefract cheers
Report salmon spray July 23, 2020 10:13 AM BST
Crazy
Heaven Forfend - 3.50 Pontefract
Thank you.
Report motseel July 23, 2020 10:17 AM BST
Dark Vision 3.20 Pontefract.
Report Reged July 23, 2020 10:19 AM BST
Hate to get picky lmlac but an invalid selection does not qualify as a rest day Happy
Report Reged July 23, 2020 10:20 AM BST
Wonder Boy
Crime Of Passion - 4.20 Sandown
ta
Report rob22 July 23, 2020 11:24 AM BST
Timoshenko 12.35 Uttox
Thanks Imlac
Report Draw1 July 23, 2020 11:25 AM BST
Timoshenko - 12.35 Uttoxeter
Report Value-Seeker July 23, 2020 12:25 PM BST
Agent Shiftwell - 4.20 Sandown

Thanks.
Report acey deucy July 23, 2020 12:58 PM BST
heaven forfend-3.50 pontefract
Report madhatter July 23, 2020 1:07 PM BST
Cheers soldier - he's certainly made a difference coming back.
I think we're all prepared to forgive the Stoke episode for now but how long before he does it again is my concern.

Anyway, I need to pick some winners otherwise big keef will be happy at the end of this month! Grin

Just seen my selection is a n/r so
Vischio - 8.00 Sandown
as replacement.
Thanks Imlac
Report lmlac July 23, 2020 2:15 PM BST
via email:

Kentish Man
Heaven Fortend - 3.50 pointe.
Thank you
Report smirnoff2therescue July 23, 2020 2:20 PM BST
BinocularsNotNeeded

Heaven Forfend - 3.50 Pontefract

DubaiPrince

Heaven Forfend - 3.50 Pontefract

shearer2therestcue

Heaven Forfend - 3.50 Pontefract thanks
Report lmlac July 23, 2020 2:22 PM BST
Reged • July 23, 2020 10:19 AM BST
Hate to get picky lmlac but an invalid selection does not qualify as
a rest day [Happy]


Well it would be harsh to dock someone a point because they're a few minutes late. Don't think the rules are clear about the situation - this is how I've always settled it before in the Prem. And he hadn't taken a rest day so far this month, so he wasn't trying to pull a fast one.
Report madhatter July 23, 2020 3:20 PM BST
Feck!
Only bet i've had today so far just won at 15/2 (Western Miller)...why didn't I nap that one!? AngryCry
Report china castle July 23, 2020 3:59 PM BST
Epic Endeavour - 5.55 Sandown

Thanks Imlac
Report TheNorfolkMafia July 23, 2020 4:50 PM BST
lmlac • July 23, 2020 2:22 PM BST
Reged • July 23, 2020 10:19 AM BST
Hate to get picky lmlac but an invalid selection does not qualify as
a rest day Happy

Well it would be harsh to dock someone a point because they're a few minutes late. Don't think the rules are clear about the situation - this is how I've always settled it before in the Prem. And he hadn't taken a rest day so far this month, so he wasn't trying to pull a fast one.


Just the 12 minutes!

I wonder what Wonder Boy thinks about it all?

Laugh
Report lmlac July 23, 2020 5:42 PM BST
via email:

Cloughie1

Arthurian Fable - 7.00 Sandown

SkyAtlantic

Gunfire Reef - 7.15 Limerick

posy

naked lass  4.25 pontefract
Report lmlac July 23, 2020 6:08 PM BST
via email:

Totally Made Up   
Gunfire Reef- 7.15 Limerick   


pretend friend   
Gunfire Reef- 7.15 Limerick   


After_Timer   
Gunfire Reef- 7.15 Limerick   


jesus   
Gunfire Reef- 7.15 Limerick   


big_keef   
Gunfire Reef- 7.15 Limerick   
Thanks Imlac
Report lmlac July 23, 2020 7:33 PM BST
via email:

Cloughie:

I see the selection for Cloughie1 yesterday has caused a bit of a kerfuffle on there but tbh  i dont see why it should have done so .Ok so the selection was posted after a horse had been declared a non runner but surely rules 3 and 8 sort of cover this sort of eventuality.
Selections can be invalid for various reasons but it cant be fair that an invalid selection is punished by the deduction of a point .
To use the betting shop as an example if you place an invalid selection what would happen - answer you would get your money back and they certainly  wouldnt penalise you .
I know the comps are a bit different but you do have the 5 non posting days rule to fall back on if supposed skullduggery was being engaged  but in this case thats just absurd  as the email was sent at 4.19pm a good hour and a half before Wonderboys selection was due to run so where was any advantage to be gained when Wonderboys horse could well have romped in long before the other selection was even due to run.
I could understand if all non-posting days had been used up but that clearly wasnt the case here so surely common sense should prevail and by all means deduct a posting day as basically its a non selection under the rules but its pretty harsh to deduct a point in these circumstances imo
Report lmlac July 23, 2020 7:51 PM BST
The rule says " On any day that a competitor does not post (excluding Sundays and final days) they will automatically revert to a possible maximum of 5 rest days per calendar month, which will be settled as a non-runner. "

There are 3 interpretations:
1 - It applies for any day that a competitor does not post a valid selection. (This is my interpretation)

2 - It applies for any day that a competitor does not post any selection , valid or invalid, but they can post other stuff.

3 - It only applies if a competitor posts nothing at all. If he posts simply a smiley then he will lose a point.

If you were going by the letter of the law (literally) then it only applies if nothing is posted as in 3. Which is nonsense. People post comments all the time without making a selection. Personally I think 1 is the common sense interpretation. And that's how I've always applied it. If the majority aren't OK with that, then I'm happy to go with 2 or 3 or anything else people can agree on.
Report Reged July 23, 2020 8:17 PM BST
The rules aren't perfect - we aren't lawyers after all, but I think the intention was clear. If someone doesn't post it is taken that he/she wants to take the day off and is given a rest day. This replaces an old more complicated system which I've mostly forgotten but did involve settlers having to effectively do the selections for them while they were away.

But if someone posts a smilie or comment but no selection that too is taken to mean he wants the day off for napping purposes. But if he posts what is clearly a selection but gets it wrong then he doesn't qualify for a rest day because he's not taking a holiday, which is what rest days are all about.

I'm not fussed about this example particularly. I'm just pointing out what I understand the rules to be, having played something of a role in drafting the present ones
Report TheNorfolkMafia July 23, 2020 8:21 PM BST
I think he should be thrown out of the competition!
Report Reged July 23, 2020 8:24 PM BST
Only if you go first
Report TheNorfolkMafia July 23, 2020 8:25 PM BST
Watch it you!
Report Reged July 23, 2020 8:28 PM BST
I'm trying to watch it now but this settling lark is getting in the way
Report TheNorfolkMafia July 23, 2020 8:32 PM BST
Laugh
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