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PREMIER DIVISION WEDNESDAY 20th April

Shanelee1966

19 Apr 16 19:17

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By:

unluckyStu When: 19 Apr 16 19:43

Marshal Dan Troop - 4.50 Epsom

Thanks Shane

By:

Shanelee1966 When: 19 Apr 16 20:40

china:

Bad Girl Caoimhe - 4.00 Catterick

By:

Shanelee1966 When: 19 Apr 16 20:42

POS	CHG	FORM	NAME	SELECTION	RESULT	+/-	TOTAL
1		11101-1	unluckystu	6.20 - Golden Wedding	3rd 9/1	-1.00	£13.89
2		1121110	hoof hearted (1)	3.20 - Heart Locket	Lost	-1.00	£10.56
3	+1	03002-4	pumphol.	5.20 - Black Caesar	Won 6/1	6.00	£9.25
4	+2	100n2-0	briansbluebicycle (3)	4.20 - Fearbuster	Won 7/1	7.00	£8.67
5	-2	d120043	SkintofGreatYarmouth (3)	4.30 - Amiral Collonges	n/r	0.00	£8.05
6	-1	d1001-d	alist5. (4)	3.20 - Fast Pick	Won 9/4	2.25	£4.37
7	+6	01002-1	Markyacard (5)	7.50 - Secret Millionaire	Won 4/1	4.00	£3.50
8	+7	100n0-d	Red Bloom (4)	4.50 - Visionary	Won 3/1	3.00	£2.25
9	-1	d111d-0	soldieroffortune (3)	2.10 - Ozzie The Oscar	Won 1/9	0.11	£1.45
10	+1	120d1-d	posy (4)	2.20 - Argent Knight	Won 6/5	1.20	£1.00
11	-4	100n0-2	mini me (3)	3.40 - Foundry Square	3rd 8/1	-1.00	£0.44
12	-3	11212-d	Moose (3)	2.10 - Ozzie The Oscar	Won 1/9	0.11	£0.24
13	-1	10001-0	The Lord BUSH	2.10 - Ozzie The Oscar	Won 1/9	0.11	-£0.19
14	-4	100n2-d	WeeJimmyMcTavish (4)	4.20 - Sirius Move	Lost	-1.00	-£1.00
15	-1	n21an-1	betme (1)	4.50 - Swell Hill	Lost	-1.00	-£1.60
16	+2	32211-0	SkyAtlantic	2.10 - Ozzie The Oscar	Won 1/9	0.11	-£1.71
17	+2	11212-0	Kentish Man (1)	2.10 - Ozzie The Oscar	Won 1/9	0.11	-£1.87
18	-2	32030-0	JRAS	3.10 - Thoonavolla	Lost	-1.00	-£2.05
19	-2	0122d-1	learning thegame (3)	8.05 - Bandsman	Lost	-1.00	-£2.06
20	+1	d1112-0	Draw1 (4)	2.10 - Ozzie The Oscar	Won 1/9	0.11	-£2.62
21	+2	d2111-0	shearer2therestcue (1)	2.10 - Ozzie The Oscar	Won 1/9	0.11	-£2.74
22	-2	11212-3	Lampus	8.05 - Bandsman	Lost	-1.00	-£3.34
23	+2	d21d0-0	potlessagain (2)	2.10 - Ozzie The Oscar	Won 1/9	0.11	-£3.38
24	+2	d12dd-0	china castle (3)	2.10 - Ozzie The Oscar	Won 1/9	0.11	-£3.54
25	+2	d2211-0	salmon spray (1)	2.10 - Ozzie The Oscar	Won 1/9	0.11	-£3.69
26▼	-4	2000d-0	general custer (3)	5.35 - Bop Along	Lost	-1.00	-£3.80
27▼	-3	d2011-0	Optimize (1)	8.05 - Bandsman	Lost	-1.00	-£4.42
28▼		d2002-2	grey shark (2)	2.10 - Eamon An Cnoic	2nd 7/2	-1.00	-£7.55
29▼		1200312	SilverBuck1	4.50 - Raffle King	Lost	-1.00	-£8.59
30▼		d230302	khyber kim (3)	No Selection		0.00	-£15.00

By:

Shanelee1966 When: 19 Apr 16 20:43

£12.55 profit on the day, well done all winners especially brian & pumpy.

Good luck tomorrow.

Stu, hope my last post on Tuesday`s thread makes sense.

By:

unluckyStu When: 19 Apr 16 21:21

No it feckin' doesn't but I have been on the vodka so I'm

my reply is on Tuesday's thread

By:

Moose When: 19 Apr 16 21:21

Prendergast Hill - 3.05 Epsom

ta

By:

Shanelee1966 When: 19 Apr 16 21:33

mini me confirms the £2.00 profit. If it`s any consolation, all other d/h`s have been settled that way and will
continue to be so.

By:

Shanelee1966 When: 19 Apr 16 21:34

Try to be happy cus you`re on top

By:

Shanelee1966 When: 19 Apr 16 21:35

Glad Ozzie didn`t d/h

By:

TheNorfolkMafia When: 19 Apr 16 22:05

Skinto,

Federici - 5.55 Fairyhouse

By:

mini me When: 19 Apr 16 22:06

No problem.

£1 @ minus 8/18 returns 55p.

Net loss 45p.

By:

mini me When: 19 Apr 16 22:07

And good luck Skinto!

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pumphol. When: 19 Apr 16 22:17

On the face of it the dead heat rules certainly seem to be heavily in favour of the bookie plenty get caught out by half the stake rather than half the odds.
Look at it this way
One person has £1 on a 3/1 shot it wins he wins £3 or
Two people have a £1 on two different 3/1 shots in the same race they both win £1 each - total winnings £2
Look like the winnings are split three ways in a dead heat on this occasion, £1 each to the two punters & £1 to the bookie

By:

pumphol. When: 19 Apr 16 22:18

Obviously the two people backed Dead heat winners

By:

TheNorfolkMafia When: 19 Apr 16 22:42

pumphol. • April 19, 2016 10:17 PM BST
On the face of it the dead heat rules certainly seem to be heavily in favour of the bookie plenty get caught out by half the stake rather than half the odds.
Look at it this way
One person has £1 on a 3/1 shot it wins he wins £3 or
Two people have a £1 on two different 3/1 shots in the same race they both win £1 each - total winnings £2
Look like the winnings are split three ways in a dead heat on this occasion, £1 each to the two punters & £1 to the bookie

Eh?

The stake doesn't exist in the competition!

By:

salmon spray When: 19 Apr 16 23:02

That's the point. Half Stu's stake lost.
Don't think your maths is correct pumphol but tired and maudlin so no not going to try and work it out

By:

soldieroffortune When: 19 Apr 16 23:05

Evening shane

Ordinal - 5.45 Lingfield

Thanks

By:

pumphol. When: 20 Apr 16 00:02

I was just putting the pitfalls of a dead heat for betting purposes nowt to do with the competition whatsoever.

By:

TheNorfolkMafia When: 20 Apr 16 00:25

A Dead Heat is calculated by dividing the stake proportionally between the number of winners in the event. So, in a two-way Dead Heat (2 winners) for example, your return will be half of what it could have been. This can be referred to as half-face value of the bet, or a bet for half the original stake.

By:

khyber kim When: 20 Apr 16 07:05

Green Howard 4.35 Catt

Ta

By:

alist5. When: 20 Apr 16 07:31

oasis fantasy- 3.05 eps

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pumphol. When: 20 Apr 16 08:56

My example Norfolk was just to show how much in the bookies favour a dead heat is.

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mini me When: 20 Apr 16 09:04

Pumpy, it is just the same as joint favourites. Have £1 on an unnamed favourite and one of them wins at 5/1 but is joint favourite. Your return including your stake would be £3.

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TheNorfolkMafia When: 20 Apr 16 09:27

pumphol. • April 20, 2016 8:56 AM BST
My example Norfolk was just to show how much in the bookies favour a dead heat is.

It's not, they are possibly paying out over two horses!

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pumphol. When: 20 Apr 16 09:35

yes they are paying out twice but that twice is cumulatively a less amount of winnings than the once

That's all I'm going to say on the matter

Hopefully

By:

mini me When: 20 Apr 16 09:47

Pumpy, if you had £1 on the unnamed favourite and 2 both dead heated as 5/1 joint favourites, your return including your stake would be £6.

By:

hoof hearted When: 20 Apr 16 09:52

Byres Road 450 Epsom

Thanks

By:

pumphol. When: 20 Apr 16 09:52

By:

TheNorfolkMafia When: 20 Apr 16 09:57

pumphol. • April 20, 2016 9:35 AM BST
yes they are paying out twice but that twice is cumulatively a less amount of winnings than the once
That's all I'm going to say on the matter
Hopefully

Not necessarily!

Please reply!

By:

pumphol. When: 20 Apr 16 10:15

By:

Lampus When: 20 Apr 16 10:27

So Mi Dar 2.30 Epsom

By:

Lampus When: 20 Apr 16 10:28

posting for the Lord BUSH
Generalship 4.15 EPSOM

By:

pumphol. When: 20 Apr 16 10:34

Bajan Rebel - 5.40 Catterick

Thanks

By:

betme When: 20 Apr 16 10:35

Skeaping - 6.15 Lingfield

By:

grey shark When: 20 Apr 16 11:06

Song Saa - 2.40 Perth

By:

SilverBuck1 When: 20 Apr 16 11:55

Bouclier - 2.00 Epsom thanks

By:

SkyAtlantic When: 20 Apr 16 12:16

Claudio Monterverdi - 2.30 Epsom thanks

By:

mini me When: 20 Apr 16 12:57

briansbluebicycle

Misfits - 2.10 Perth

mini me

Generalship - 4.15 Epsom

Red Bloom

Whatdoesthefoxsay - 2.40 Perth

WeeJimmyMcTavish

Loving Memory - 6.45 Lingfield

Cheers

By:

general custer When: 20 Apr 16 14:15

Barney Dwan - 3.15 Perth