DIVISION 2 SELECTIONS for THURSDAY 24th October

drive time 3.20 thurles
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for ad hoc

220 car pendra

Daring Dragon - 5.40 Wolver'

Thanks FCH

The Friary - 3.25 Carlisle please FCH

Dustland Fairytale - 6.10 Wolv

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Arlecchino 9.10 Wolverhampton

There's going to be a delay in posting the table as I'm taking some advice on how today's LRF should be settled.

Finding Your Feet 3.55 Carlisle

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For Draw 1 ....

Flemish School - 7.40 Wolves

Smadynium - 2.55 Carlisle


Cheers FCH

15.45 lud oyster shell

7.10 wolves. sewn up. thanks fch.

If the last race fav was a non-runner --
Nobody will object to it being classed as such
And those placed on it suffering No penalty
ie :- a £0.00 position on the race .

Finding your feet - 3.55 Carl
Taree veree muchee

The Friary - 3.25 Carlisle

scissors thats correct  if you had that bet with a bookie he would return your money .. cause it was a N/R

First time I've come across this. Odd that there should be no favourite in a race. But since the next horse in the betting after Hypnotism, and the eventual winner, has not been declared favourite I can only assume Hypnotism was the fav or there was no fav. Either way, the last race favourite was thus a non-runner and there should be no deduction.

Would love to know what the rules on this are.

Pendra - 2.20 Carlisle

Thanks FCH
Good Luck Everyone

Weybridge Light - 4.05.Southwell

for Polo Minx

Pendra - 2.20 Carl

Candelita 3.35 South

Cheers FCH

for Earth To Mickey

Pendra - 2.20 Carlisle

Reged  Hypnotism  was W/D  last 4 or 5 seconds  ..upset in stalls
there was insufficient  time to form a NEW Market .. hence no fav returned

Molko Jack - 2.30 Southwell

thanks for that zip

Drive Time - 3.20 Thurles

Thanks FCH

No probs Reged...... lets get on with winning money  2.55 Upswing  ..AP Macoy has the first 3 fav   1.50  2.20  2.55  my nap if the first 2 win this will be no price  ... but iam on at 15/8 ...

Reged  that 1.50 winner  all down to the CHAMP    beat everwere  but the line .. had a few quid on .. if he wins on the 2.20 and he will my nap will be odds on . not much good for me in the div 2 comp

Reged  i will give you a sample of the 4.00 clock system  numbers only  sdave me time posting names
3.05 lay  1
3.25  lay 6
3.35 lay 6
3.45 back 4

Reged  upswing  won doing hand stands .. well done A/P   your nap  is a cert   rated 158  .. on my figs its throw in

Bert Trick - 6.10 Wolverhampton

For Lordylordy please

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Drive time to lead em home ..have your dinner money on kids

Hard luck  Reged to be fair it was a match   ..nose at the line  ..pay with a smile ..

Reged   heres a bit of advice  .. Nobody can win long term  backing or laying odds on shots .. take football  only 3 results    .. been in this game 45 years plus  .. never heard of a PRO Punter  on football  ..why  its 5/4 home   2/1 away   ... 11/5 the draw   .. at the odds you would need to be right 65% of the time to win  not a lot ...and  nobody is right  65% of the time ... game on Ladbrokes

4.00 PM ... thats zip out .. nice profit on the day

Regarding last night`s favourite. Difficult one. The market wasn`t re-formed as stated earlier but we still had a runner that was favourite @11/2 with a rule 4 of 15p. As long as you have at least 2 horses running there will be a fav or joint fav. I can see why it was settled as a non-runner though.

Bert Trick - 6.10 Wolves

Thanks FCH,

but none of the results sites - SL or RP - designate a fav shane

the point made on another thread was punters who backed second fav wld be mightily upset if your rule applied

mustv admit I have never come across this before and can find little to explain it on the net

Shane  you run a comp  and do it very well  heres my advice to all you settlers .. do away with the last race fav  ..why if a guy cannot be arsed to post  or to busy to post  well he /she should lose a point  . it unfair on us guys who post  every day .. when its possible to win this comp  with say 3 winning  post and 5 or 6 last race favs .. think about it   zip puts up a 5/1 winner  a 11/4 winner and a 5/1 winner  thats 13 points then sit back  and lets see what happens ...18 points will win most divs on here ..and i only tried 3 times

Reged  if you was a bookie and a punter had a bet with you say a score on the fav and it happens a lot more than you think .. ok you give him a ticket   last night the fav was withdrawn last 5 secs .. you dont put him on the second fav  ok it won but it was not the fav when the bet was struck ..he gets his money back cause the fav was a N/R

I settled it as a NR because Hypnotism still had a price quoted on SL as being the fav. Wonder what FCH will come up with in his research.

whether it was fav when bet was struck surely is irrelevant ... surely such bets are on the SP fav, not the fav at the time of the bet? I'm not starting an argy here BTW, just genuinely intrigued by this conundrum

Clearest guide I c an find is this from Corals rules:

Where a horse is withdrawn not under starters orders but is still returned favourite (i.e. no new market is formed), then bets on that favourite are void. Bets will not transfer to the second favourite.

Muthafar - 9.10 Wolver

Shane   same with that Champions comp  take a look there all ducking and diving  .. you could put up a 7/1 winner  and lose  to some won who did not win but he ran up with a guy who did not win.. sounds daft cause it is daft ..... Champions evey walk of life WIN   .. a joke Wigan  won the Prem cause they lost the least ...

Reged dont labour  it
that rule has been inforce  since time began
how do i know that well its simple you divide ..128 by Thursday

Fav' withdrawn, 15p in £ rule 4, got to count as a non runner for the LRF, imo.

Sharp and smart - 8.10 wolves

Clearest guide I can find is this from Corals rules:

Where a horse is withdrawn not under starters orders but is still returned favourite (i.e. no new market is formed), then bets on that favourite are void. Bets will not transfer to the second favourite.

Posted by Reg:

I`m happy to go along with that in the event it happens again.

How does every one else feel?

zips - in a nutshell, the format of the champions league gives napsters like me a chance. It`s a different format, so I could easily beat the best napster in the leagues, otherwise I wouldn`t.

just follow pete's naps shane

Has he won again?

Mahdiyah - 8.40 Wolves

To replace n/r, thanks.

Wee Jimmy Mctavish & LordyLordy (to replace non runner)

Great Fighter - 7.40Wolv

Cheers

odds-on today ... obv shaping up for the prem!

Flemish school
7.40 wolves

could I pop up ad hocs nap for Friday please

310 donc  lancelot du lac

POS	CHG	FORM	NAME	SELECTION	RESULT	+/-	TOTAL
1▲	+2	n001320	zipper	Trafalgar - 2.40 Worcester	1st 9/2	4.50	£12.56
2▲	-1	0100n41	unluckyStu	Touch the Sky - 4.10 Newmarket	Lost	-1.00	£11.75
3▲	-1	3131-10	LordyLordy	Lily Waugh - 5.40 Fontwell	nr	0.00	£9.66
4▲		1f00-31	undecided	Decoy - 4.30 Fontwell	Lost	-1.00	£6.25
5▲		0111-10	Polo Minx	Heronry - 4.00 Fontwell	pu	-1.00	£5.14
6		1121p01	siralex	Niki Royale - 5.05 Fontwell	4th	-1.00	£4.53
7		24132n0	madhatter	Cossetted - 4.45 Newmarket	4th	-1.00	£4.00
8		3110031	ad hoc shouldve won a national	Moonfaarid - 6.50 Kempton	3rd 1/1	-1.00	£3.57
9		4404-00	Firstnamewinnerlastname (2)	Deglet Noor - 4.45 Newmarket	3rd 3/1	-1.00	£3.00
10		2032n31	the dealer	Cossetted - 4.45 Newmarket	4th	-1.00	£2.75
11		3432-11	scissors  (1)	Belisarius - 3.10 Navan	2nd 4/7	-1.00	£2.14
12		1201200	sonofshiner (1)	Alisios - 5.20 Newmarket	Lost	-1.00	£1.53
13		0000014	SOULDANCER	Kindlelight Storm - 5.50 Kempton	Lost	-1.00	£0.75
14		0040442	Pre-Fat-Low-Fat-Foods (3)	Heronry - 4.00 Fontwell	pu	-1.00	-£0.50
15		4301-1n	Aquarius	Jean Fleming - 5.30 Worcester	2nd 4/1	-1.00	-£2.27
16	+1	0000-40	little.bobby (5)	LRF	nr	0.00	-£2.61
17	-1	1110-23	feastorfamine  (2)	Chambray Dancer - 4.20 Worcester	Lost	-1.00	-£3.28
18		1112-13	Draw 1	Munjaz - 4.10 Newmarket	2nd 5/4	-1.00	-£4.71
19	+3	2322143	buffythebookieslayer	Sudden Wonder - 3.40 Newmarket	1st 8/11	0.73	-£4.77
20	-1	0000-40	Stevie Gerrard	Bold Lass - 8.20 Kempton	4th	-1.00	-£5.50
21	-1	2010-03	ardgirl (10)	Heronry - 4.00 Fontwell	pu	-1.00	-£6.40
21	-1	20np-10	Reged (10)	George Nympton - 3.15 Worcester	Lost	-1.00	-£6.40
23		003f-04	the muppet (1)	Heronry - 4.00 Fontwell	pu	-1.00	-£7.25
24		00102n0	Shanelee1966	Touch the Sky - 4.10 Newmarket	Lost	-1.00	-£7.45
25		n422000	Earth To Mickey  (1)	Sahara Desert - 7.20 Kempton	Lost	-1.00	-£7.55
26▼		0120-00	nellie1970 (1)	LRF	nr	0.00	-£7.69
27▼		3332-24	WeeJimmyMcTavish	Ian's Memory - 7.20 Kempton	4th	-1.00	-£9.52
28▼		4014243	DFCIRONMAN	Kindia - 5.50 Kempton	Lost	-1.00	-£10.17
29▼		0000-00	pauli (10)	no selection	Lost	-1.00	-£10.40
30▼		1020n02	Sing when ur winning	Birds Eye View - 2.35 Navan	Lost	-1.00	-£14.00

Going by the Corals rules that Reged found, we'll go for the non-runner option for the LRF yesterday.

zipper went top with a good winner in Trafalgar at 9/2.

Nice Nap Zipper.