PREMIER DIVISION TUESDAY 1st January

A warm welcome to the four promoted. Let me know if you wish to use instructions ie last race fav etc.

Instructions
DubaiPrince LRF if no post
Kentish Man LRF if no post

130 ex ambion wood

La Estrella - 1.15 Wolver

Glad  you are still  here  salmon
Lets   see   what  happens    next  year  to  you

Not sure I am here Lampus.
Problems on Final Table thread.

Rakaan 4.05 Wol

Thanks

Happy new year all. just come back, the trees fell over, the dog is traumatized, the missus is pissed. Happy days. Instructions please Shane

Shane I take it the table here is wrong and the one on the "new" final table thread is correct as posted after this at 5.35pm!

Sorry to LIS but at least you have other (names) entries in the Premier Division to attack me with lol and tbh if mine hadn't fell at the last when clear yesterday then it would have been Salmon in my position and either way your late post had to be mentioned imo.

Congrats to de44ek4 on a fine win and very hard luck to Hilly, Mouse & china castle whose own totals alone could have topped the table on other occassions!

Morning troops.

potless, yes you`re still in the premier, snowy goes down into Div1. The Final Final table thread is correct.

Moose - instructions? i could do with some for my headache

Good luck all

Definite Appeal - 2.15 Musselburgh

Blenheim Brook - 1.05 Muss

Thanks Shane

Hawkes Point 2.40 Exeter

Thanks

Morning shane

La Estrella - 1.15 Wolverhampton

Thanks

Happy New Year everyone

Morning soldier, all the very best to you too Sir.

Current list of instructions:

Name	Instruction	Sunday
momm	Last race fav	No
Fidway	Last race fav	No
Ming	Last race fav	No
old applejack	Last race fav	No
223	Last race fav	No
Moose	Last race fav	No
Binoculars	Last race fav	No
DubaiPrince	Last race fav	No
Kentish Man	Last race fav	No
SkyAtlantic	3:30 fav or nearest after	No

ardgirl/Optimize - just shout out if you wish to be added.

Very poor show to make a change after 5 days

It was a very difficult one mini me. Maybe we could introduce a 24 hour rule where mistakes that arn`t spotted are concerned.

What does everyone else feel?

Sorry I thought I was helping but I probably confused the issue further. I think momm was right yesterday and if I retired look-it's snowing would still have to go down and the 5th person in Div 1 would come up,which obviously wasn't my idea. So to everybody's great delight I will soldier on. 
Now I need to find one.

salmon - that`s why i couldn`t accept your resignation in that way, momms was correct.

Just to re-fresh:

1. - You have to choose 1 horse each day. Winners will be returned at SP/Industry Prices and stake is 1 point. If no SP/Industry Price is returned winning selections will be settled as non-runners. Non selection means a loser.

2. - All UK and Irish races are eligible along with the Dubai Festival and the Sunday Arc de Triomphe meet.

3. - Selections must be made AT LEAST 1 hour before your selected race. Failure to comply will result in the selection being declared Invalid and treated as a Non Selection.

4. - Selections may be changed as long as it is BEFORE 1hr prior to original race OR if selection is a NR or deemed invalid ( Rule 3 MUST still be adhered to).

5. - Rule 4 and Dead Heat rules will apply to SP/Industry Prices.

6. - Sunday selections will be optional. No deductions for non posters. (it will be compulsory if Sunday is last day of the month).

7. - LAST DAY RULES for every last day of the month : all selections must be made BY THE SCHEDULED OFF OF THE FIRST RACE of the day, you can't choose any horse already selected and only named horses are allowed (no instructions).

8. Instructions to cover holiday / days can't post will be allowed but under the following STRICT guidelines :
- The instructions you wish to use must be clearly stated (Sundays will not have instructions applied unless EXPLICITLY stated otherwise).
- Instructions will be applied to GB mainland races only UNLESS explicitly stated otherwise. Ie Eire & Northern Ireland
- Only 10 days on instructions which do not name horses (i.e last fav , Spotform's nap etc) will be allowed each month. Once that has been exceeded one point per day will be deducted.
- Horses selected from the five day entries will be allowed. If they do not run they will be treated under the non runners rule and will not count towards the 10 day instruction maximum.
- In the case of more than one favourite in a race Instructions will be settled on the favourite with lowest race-card number.

9. In the event of a tie the person who has used least instructions will be deemed to finish above the person they have tied with.

10. In the event of a major Betfair upgrade which may affect the ability to post on the Forum before racing starts that day will have Sunday rules applied (ie. no deduction for non-posters).

Quiet often things can crop up that arn`t strictly covered by the above rules (grey areas) In these instances please abide by the individual settlers decision/ruling.

Rock  on Salmon

swift arrow 1.05 musselburgh
cheers and a happy new year to you all

Am I still in this division?

2.40 EXETER - Hawkes Point
Thanks Shane.
Yes I could see that we might have a different row if I had insisted on retiring.
Fwiw I think you made the right decision but I have some sympathy with remarks made by mini me and soldieroffortune.
I don't remember this situation arising before and would off the top of my head go along with your suggestion of a 24 hour cut-off for " objections ". It would have to be consistent over the whole comp though.

Gullinbursti  2.40  Exeter

Happy New Year muppet.

Let me just check Ming

Bush  v  salmon

salmon - it`s a good idea (24 hours) for timing issues ie a few minutes late. But what about if a selection was settled at 16/1 instead of 6/1 say and nobody picked up on it until 2 days later. That couldn`t be allowed to stand.

Powerful Ambition - 1.40 Musselburgh

Would it not be fair to accommodate an extra person in the Premier League for one month?

Would it not be fair to accommodate an extra person in the Premier League for one month?

cannyman

Mr Puck - 3-30 Catt

Thanks

Blazing Tempo  210 Tramore

La Estrella - 1.15  Wolv.

mini me - it`s something i considered, but on the other hand feel that four must go down every month. I know you`re raising the prospect of an extra body in the premier and four still getting promoted.

I`d have to say no, but as always i`m willing to leave it open to debate amongst all the napsters currently in the premier and obviously the other settlers.

What are everyone elses thoughts?

If we kept an extra player in the Prem every time Shane made a mistake, there'd be no Divs 1, 2 and 3 left within a year.

12:40 Catt, Special Catch.
Cheers.

Do not fix which is not broken
so keep it has it is

You were probably looking for a serious reply. I'll give it some thought.

Not at all momms, above all this comp must be fun

Each player should accept a certain level of responsibility for posting within the rules.  Mistakes are bound to occur from time to time but are rare.  In this extreme circumstance i feel the correct course of action was taken.

Woolfall Sovereign - 2.25 Wolverhampton

I have no idea what the suggestion is.....

Its to give salmon a 10 point  start

Forget the instruction last night Shane

Catt 1.10  See What Happens

ta

fwiw I think Hilly sums it up quite well.

healing hands:

Alfred Hutchinson 4.05 Wol

Cheers

for Polo Minx

Mighty Mob - 3.50 Ex

Local Present muss 14.15

Groomed 15:05 Fake

No Way Hozay 2.55 Catterick thanks

LRF Shane if no post

Archie Stevens 3pm Wolves

thanks

Groomed 3.05 Fakenham
cheers

Walter White 3.35 Wolverhampton thanks

salmon 1 BUSH 0