PREMIER DIVISION THURSDAY 22nd

I`ve one eye on Kempton (Boxing Day)

Binocular will face a maximum of six rivals as he bids for a second successive victory in the williamhill.com Christmas Hurdle on Boxing Day.

The seven-year-old impressed in the Kempton Grade One last season when beating Overturn, but has been largely disappointing since.

Overturn gained his revenge when landing the Fighting Fifth Hurdle at Newcastle last month and the pair are set for a third clash on Monday.

Overturn's trainer has interestingly also entered Drill Sergeant, while champion trainer Paul Nicholls could saddle impressive Newbury winner Rock On Ruby, as well as Sanctuaire.

Greatwood Hurdle runner-up Olofi and Clerk's Choice complete the seven entries after the race was reopened

POS	CHG	FORM	NAME	SELECTION	RESULT	+/-	TOTAL
1	+1	1211-01	little bobby	4:00 - Karma Chameleon	Won 9/4	2.25	£10.47
2	-1	0112-01	Lucky Blue (4)	4:00 - Let Your Love Flow	3rd 5/1	-1.00	£8.78
3	+1	1200321	GEORGE.B	5:45 - Encore Un Fois	Won 5/6	0.83	£8.53
4	-1	100110n	general custer	12:40 - Kazlian	Won 1/4	0.25	£8.20
5		1011-0n	Hilly	12:40 - Kazlian	Won 1/4	0.25	£5.45
6		1002-0n	The Fruity Kiwi & his Gerbil	3:40 - My Tent Or Yours	Won 10/11	0.91	£4.62
7		3000111	sing when ur winning	2:45 - Horsham Lad	3rd 15/8	-1.00	£2.25
8		3011-21	man of many moods	2:00 - Ruby Crown	3rd 7/2	-1.00	£1.95
9	+1	0020102	la mallatiere	12:40 - Kazlian	Won 1/4	0.25	£1.36
10	-1	1011-01	lester pickit	4:15 - Chorister Sport	Lost	-1.00	£1.01
11		1010-01	alist5 (2)	2:35 - Time For Spring	2nd 3/1	-1.00	-£0.69
12	+3	nn01-01	Weaver Fish (1)	1:30 - All For Free	Won 15/8	1.88	-£0.91
13		0003-21	mini me	2:35 - Chapolimoss	n/r	0.00	-£2.26
14	-2	2000-00	hong kong fooey	5:00 - Desert Auction	Lost	-1.00	-£3.14
15	-1	3001-1n	Moose	2:35 - Time For Spring	2nd 3/1	-1.00	-£3.49
16		1000-0n	sixtwosix	12:35 - Tawaagg	Lost	-1.00	-£3.96
17	+2	100010n	DubaiPrince	3:40 - My Tent Or Yours	Won 10/11	0.91	-£4.62
18	-1	3100-23	salmon spray	12:35 - Tawaagg	Lost	-1.00	-£4.90
19	+1	1011-00	I am the one and only223	12:05 - Felix Yonger	Won 1/6	0.17	-£5.39
20	+2	1021-02	scissors (8)	5:45 - Encore Un Fois	Won 5/6	0.83	-£5.67
21	-3	1011-0n	Draw 1	1:50 - Court Applause	2nd 5/2	-1.00	-£5.79
22▼	-1	3002-00	josh monk	3:10 - Tara Rose	Lost	-1.00	-£7.50
23▼		3000-20	mr d ferret	2:15 - Wings Of Smoke	Lost	-1.00	-£8.27
24▼		0200-20	Value Seeker (2)	3:00 - Red Cape	2nd 11/1	-1.00	-£12.00
25▼		3023000	MALTWHIX	1:30 - All For Free	Won 15/8	1.88	-£12.62

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1.35 THURLES - So Young.
Thought I was going to have a stressless month but back in a relegation dogfight AGAIN.       
I was going OK till some nob mentioned nosebleeds when I got to 8th       
Thank YOU

Eleven winners today returning a small loss, monthly total now stands at -£28.59

The top half fared much better than the bottom.
The new leader is little bobby, must be nice to sit on top of the pile. Though many must fancy their chances with only eight days remaining.

Weaver Fish moves into the top half and must be safe now.
scissors moves straight back out of the bottom four and is replaced by josh monk.
MALTWHIX almost clawed himself off the bottom with a timely winner, at least this gives him a better chance of avoiding the drop.

Well done all eleven successful napsters.

Value Seeker almost landed a cracker, better luck tomorrow.

On this day (22nd) 1984 Madonna`s Like A Virgin single went to number 1 and stayed there for 6 weeks.
Doesn`t seem that long ago. Also the 9 year anniversary of Joe Strummer`s death.


Good luck Thursday troops.

Hassadin 2.10 Hereford

Chestnut Ben 110 Here

salmon - you do seem to have suffered a dip in fortunes since reaching the dizzy heights of eighth place

Shane, I was wondering why you said '8 days remaining', and just seen Stu's post about Dundalk being on Friday.

Wonder if it's worth starting a thread to let everyone know - unless it was just me who didn't know!

Bold Cuffs
1-30 southwell cheers

So Young 1:35 Thurles

cheers shane

12.50 Sedg, Charminster.
Cheers.

I was aware Dundalk was on on Friday but my feeling is that the organisers ought to have the say. If they want to do it I think it should be optional.

Here 2.40 Milo Milan

ta

now I'm confused

hong kong fooey...may i wish you and your dearest a wonderful and happy xmas
best regards sofiakenny

Message to all - Friday 23rd, the only meeting is at Dundalk.

I`m happy to make this optional as per Sunday rules.
How does everyone else feel ???

I`ll go with the majority who post.

Shane,

bundle of fun  1.05 th

Wreningham 1pm Southwell

The Weatherman 12.20 Sedge   please shane.


Make tomorrow a normal tipping day I think.

chestnut ben 1.10 here

For I am the one and only223:
So Young 13:35 Thurl

In answer to your question, speaking as a player I really don't mind one way or the other as all my selections are complete guesses anyway.

I had naturally assumed it would be an optional day as there's no GB racing, but there's no reason why those who live in Ireland and/or study Irish racing more than GB racing shouldn't have the same advantage that the GB boys do when there's no Irish racing.

Speaking as a settler, and therefore a totally disinterested party, I still don't mind one way or the other!

There must be a precedent though. What's happened in the past when all GB racing has been cancelled due to the weather or whatever, but racing has still gone ahead in Ireland?

Hector's House 1:10 Hereford

Thanks

305 thurles RICKYABOYA

BOLD CUFFS
1.30 Southwell

thanks

I would prefer it to be optional. I do actually pick in Ireland more than most,not terribly successfully,but not at Dundalk. I find GB a/w incomprehensible enough.

S'well 12.00 - Spartilla

Cheers

Unless the settlers fancy a day off, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be compulsory. The Flat boys have to make a selection when there is only jump racing on.

That is from the point of view that if there was just one UK meeting on, we'd be selecting, and as all Irish meetings are permitted, why should it be any different for an Irish meeting?

Thanks for the feedback GEORGE, salmon, la mall & momm`s.

A compulsory day Friday is marginally preferred so far. Lets see if the rest who have yet to post have any opinions.

for mini me:

Short Supply 2.50 Sedg

mini says yes, compulsory on Friday

Cheers

I'll probably pick a loser there as it tends to be competitive stuff, but thinking about logically, if all Irish meetings are permitted, why should they be treated differently from UK meetings, and if there was a UK meeting scheduled tomorrow, presumably we'd be selecting from it?

I suppose to the answer to that George is that Irish racing doesn't seem to be given the same status as GB racing in this comp.
My only reason for thinking this is probably that instructions for FRF or LRF or whatever only apply to GB racing (unless specifically requested). Not even to UK racing (which is what it erroneously states in the Rules) as Down Royal and Downpatrick aren't included.
So it's always seemed to me that Irish racing has been included as a concession to those who want to select from it, rather than part of the main menu, as it were.
This is why I assumed Friday would be an optional day.
But like I said, I'm happy either way.

for The Fruity Kiwi and his Gerbil

Chestnut Ben - 1.10 H

Bold Cuffs 130 Southwell thanks

Just to keep you all informed.

It`s now 3-1 in favour of a compulsory day (Friday)

If you have an opinion either way, please shout before 6pm today.

That would be fair enough, momm, obviously I've given them equal status.

I presume there will be some compers who have no interest in the Irish stuff and never select from it, so if that is the case, I presume an optional day would be fair.

Fwiw, I'd rather it was decided on what's fair and in compliance with the rules, rather than what may or may not be of advantage to those who vote!

Salerosa 2.30 South
I would prefer it being optional
I never open the paper when its
only Irish

Southwell
1.30 - Bold Cuffs

That's a fair point from VS. What would be the situation on say for example, a Thursday in February if it was all off over here and there was only one surviving Irish Meeting?

I'm happy to leave it to you guys to decide!

All - I`ve looked again at the rules and all UK & Irish meetings are eligible.
Best to decide now rather than later.

So with that & the feedback in mind.

Friday will be compulsory

I posed that same question earlier George. I wondered if had ever happened and set a precedent.

Sorry, momm, I did read your post earlier - memory like a sieve here!

Ah! I see shane's made an executive decision. Excellent.

The only question now is does he have the authority for this to be applied to all Divisions or this is just for the Prem?

Tbh I certainly never look at Dundalk. I am basically a jumps man who dislikes the a/w generally but was quite happy to pick on it in GB when the jumps was off as it was quite often last winter. I draw the line at Irish a/w though. If the majority say compulsory I will play but on this occasion not happily.

at 11:25am I realised my selection The Weatherman was running at 12:20pm...and so I was too late to post up...
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my second choice is nowhere near as confident ..
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3-20 sedge
charlie's vic
ta


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go on surprise me and win at better odds ...

momm`s - only the Premier division. My original thoughts were that it was a compulsory day after looking at the fixtures and rules last night. Nothing in the rules to suggest anything other than a compulsory day.
Dundalk will sort the wheat from the chaff

Value - You seem pretty good at that

shanelee's post =
So with that & the feedback in mind.

Friday will be compulsory
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just showing my support = Yep I'll go along with that

2.40 Here
Mallusk

mud monkey, 2.40 hereford, please.

a happy christmas to all at the Irish Turf Club as well.

see you tomorrow!

Any more tips Value

A MERRY CHRISTMAS
AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR

TO ALL MY FELLOW COMPETITORS IN THE PREMIER DIVISION !!

and especially to the excellent organiser SHANELEE ....

Awww thanks scissors. Seasonal greetings to yourself & family

Don`t forget tomorrow is compulsory.

I've had my team of lawyers going through the Rules for the last two hours and I think they've found a loop-hole:

8. Instructions . . . will be allowed but under the following STRICT guidelines :
- Instructions will be applied to UK races only UNLESS explicitly stated otherwise.

So presumably if I can't post a selection tomorrow my LRF instruction will have to go down as a non-runner as there's no UK racing.

So all anyone who doesn't want to play tomorrow has to do is post an instruction instead of a selection for tomorrow.

Get out of that one!

scrooge !!!!!!!