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melv
09 Dec 10 12:57
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If she does not win this. And it looks possible thanks to PP's brilliant information.

It will just go to show how easily a show biz reptile like Cowell can cause audial hallications.

The hallucinogens wear off as soon as Xfactor finishes. Unles you are naturallly brilliant like Stace.

Or actually are not bad (not amazing mind) at your job like Leona.

I know Rebbecca fans will not get this but here goes. Peters stats prove that Rebbecca is no Leona.

And Leonas not all that.
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Report A1 Bionic December 9, 2010 1:12 PM GMT
Matt is no steve Brookstein eitherHappy
Report Mikeeey December 9, 2010 1:46 PM GMT
Betfair's own community poll is interesting too:

Matt - 22%
OD - 18%
Rebecca - 14%
Cher - 3%
Not sure - 7%
Don't care - 33%
Report Peter Petrelli December 9, 2010 5:08 PM GMT
Hi Melv,

I hope things are well on your planet.  Thanks for the mention. 

I'm not that keen on any of this year's finalists.  Rebecca has certainly been well ramped on here.  She's a nice girl but a bit dull for my taste.  I heard a new track by Adele on Later With Jools Holland a couple of weeks ago.  Same basic market as Rebecca but Adele is in a different class.  Adele writes her own material too so has a degree of originality that Rebecca lacks.

Gamu and Aiden were the only ones I liked this year.  I saw that you were a big Gamu fan.  Shame about her immigration problems.
Report melv December 9, 2010 5:15 PM GMT
When Cowell puts a reptilian face on as he did with Burke and basicaly adresses the people who made him rich ordering them to vote for Rebecca you will see the power of the media. These Itunes results show there is nothing special about Rebbeccas singing. Ok some like her; some don't; big deal.If he gets very assertive we will all feel that its like McCoy dragging a horse over the the line.

The way the other judges have toed the rebbecca line is the most nauseating thing.

Actualy its wierd and very interesting. But in the end it does not make artists.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B December 9, 2010 5:40 PM GMT
melv

We all know the winner that's why whenever anyone puts any polls up (I haven't seen an itunes one myself) Matt's miles in front and they all go quiet as they have no answer.
Report melv December 9, 2010 6:38 PM GMT
Hope so I will make a few more quid on Matt than the others. It will be good to discover that those who shout loudest and are most obsessive are the most vulnerable.

I will grovel accordingly if she wins. But i would never have played it anyother way.
Report melv December 9, 2010 6:41 PM GMT
Hi PP. Just wait for the media coverage of Gamu's single next week. I am hoping she is a runner. Again v. nice info.Thanks.
Report melv December 9, 2010 6:42 PM GMT
OH  P.P. extraterestrially speaking. Nice. Thanks.
Report pmbets December 9, 2010 9:46 PM GMT
Matts fake like mikeeys poll that only adds up to 97%
Report NXRBL December 9, 2010 10:34 PM GMT
Even ITV news are in on the ramp!! Shocked
Coverage of the conference today and the edit shows Rebecca doing Show Me Love as they speak about the winner. Can't remember the context about the winner, as I was in a trance at how brilliant her performance was! Laugh
Report Mikeeey December 9, 2010 10:58 PM GMT
pmbets - it's not my poll you muppet
Report stroodle December 9, 2010 11:06 PM GMT
Advanced copy of The Sun monday    http://yfrog.com/ne6636copyj
Report NXRBL December 10, 2010 4:41 AM GMT
Who u referin to pmb?
Report melv December 10, 2010 8:30 AM GMT
My take. Oh yes indeed. I took it off Charlie.HappyHappyHappyHappy

1) Judging by polls, comments from Louis, Simon, Popbitch etc Cardle has clearly the biggest core support. It is the eve of the final and he has been topping the vote regularly we hear. Any challenger needs to change public opinion outside of their current fanbase markedly to win. The pressure is on the outsiders to win new support.

2) I just sat through the uncomfortable press conference which is viewable here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iv3CMWmiR...

Clearly (to me) the elephant in the room is Cardle's massive support. Cowell is OK about 1D not winning and now has opted for Rebecca as his next best outcome (he knows the votes, look how he places a hand on her chair through most of the PC.- Either he's saying this truthfully or to keep the race tight or to stimulate votes or both). I would imagine he is reluctant to manage Cardle as he has "opinions". Cowell will be likely unable to praise Rebecca unduly as he has a remaining act. From his comments, Louis will clearly say at the weekend that he wants Rebecca to win. That all 4 winner's songs will be released just speaks to Cowell hedging as he thinks he can't fix this one against Matt. Matt can't whilly deprive any more favoured act of a number 1 record at Christmas.

3) Cheryl will not promote Cher or Rebecca over one another. It is clear that the Cher/Rebecca tension about "Cheryl time' still exists -see Cher's face when the question to Cheryl is "how do you split your time?"

4) Matt actually looked quite well, and spoke without croaking but Dannii and Matt maintain the stance that he's still sick (likely has viral tonsilitis) as potential cover. Matt says he will rest, he has a couple of days.

5) Duets? Clear lack of excitement in the room about Robbie and William. Can't see anyone slating Cardle/Rhianna. Rhianna is signed to def jam, part of Universal and a rival. Given poaching between record companies happens often (Mariah recently left sony for Universal) can see red carpet rolled out for the duet. Who knows what this will be like but there are lots of guitar acoustic male versions of tracks like Umbrella.

Rebecca/Aguilera. - bit of a weird combo. I can't find any duets with CA and a female artist. so presumably they will take turns to sing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-USUDzycRvM which is sort of cool at the beginning but then gets a bit boring. Difficult to guess this without the arrangement. She has dueted with Ricky Martin but the performances are rather lame. They are on youtube. She will prob just take turns with Bex in this style see; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-USUDzycRvM which starts well but is a bit boring after half way.

6) Audition songs. Not much new here. Assume Matt outpolled this lot the first time, we'll see. I heard One D's Torn in practice -usual fare singalonga Imbruglia. Rebecca could be great but we learn nothing new as she was great the first time except we'll see her eyes this time.. Same with Matt. Cher swags on...

My conclusion, I don't think there's enough to change the public's view that Cardle wins this. He's a musician so I'm guessing the Rhianna combo won't be awful and the winehouse is fine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCbyQmopmYQ  He's the only man left in a competition were the most common voting demographic is female and between 30 and 50.

If Cowell was Rebecca's mentor we might have a contest due to undue manipuation but for me, Matt should be much shorter and 1D should be in double digits and would already be but gamblers fear Cowell and can't quantify the teen "support" which i suspect is a lot of teen hype. Reb seems fairly priced here. Outside of under 18 females, One D appear just a little more popular as Cher, who must be the most disliked finalist ever?

The bawdeeps tell me that Matt should be trading between 1.3 and 1.6. Assuming they are talking book, 1.7 to be conservative seems like a likely next stop.

Good luck with your bets. I'm happy with a Matt Rebecca 1/2 and OK with a Reb/Matt. Betfreddie's offer seems most generous in this regard.


Excellent Charlie. I must remeber who is worth listening  to before I fk up on Idol. I have made my play on this and waiting to bank small profit on Sunday. Boring.
Report alfie46 December 10, 2010 9:19 AM GMT
a top post cheers
Report Mikeeey December 10, 2010 11:53 AM GMT
good post
Report melv December 10, 2010 1:18 PM GMT
It from charlebigpotatoes. My take. Well done charlie.
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