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08 Dec 10 15:53
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matt cardle    Rihanna
Cher       avril llavigne
One direction   justin bieber
Rebecca   christine aguiller
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Report five leaves left December 8, 2010 3:55 PM GMT
Becca the chosen one.
Report Mikeeey December 8, 2010 3:56 PM GMT
I prefer Rihanna
Report stroodle December 8, 2010 3:58 PM GMT
Think Rebecca is singing beautiful as spoilers predict, price will surely shorten shortly
Report five leaves left December 8, 2010 4:02 PM GMT
Yep, if that's confirmed stroodle then Rebecca's price is only going one way.
Report boxingthefox December 8, 2010 4:03 PM GMT
Wagner Mr Blobby, .....if only he was still there, CryLaugh
Report Mikeeey December 8, 2010 4:07 PM GMT
if true the OD have been stitched up Laugh
Report NXRBL December 8, 2010 4:10 PM GMT
Yep, Justin Bieber kiss o death if they have im!
Report GymTanLaundry December 8, 2010 4:11 PM GMT
not to mention cher stitched up too!

rumours on DS that katy perry pulled out of a duet with cher, so she ended up with avril lavigne!!
Report Benjy December 8, 2010 4:11 PM GMT
Think Bieber and Rihana are both better choices than Christina tbh. Certainly more popular.
Report Benjy December 8, 2010 4:12 PM GMT
Bieber to much of a c0ck to actually do it though I imagine.
Report five leaves left December 8, 2010 4:12 PM GMT
I didn't know avril lavigne was still about.

When was she big? about 10 years ago. I remember my niece was forever playing her album.
Report NXRBL December 8, 2010 4:12 PM GMT
GTL, can't imagine many A-list artists wanting to duet with Cher. They have a career to protect aswell lol
Report TheMadness December 8, 2010 4:13 PM GMT
Aguilera is clearly the biggest star out of them even if her last album didn't sell very well. Beautiful is one of the biggest singles of the last few years
Report attitude adjuster December 8, 2010 4:16 PM GMT
There's no wow factor with any of these names at the moment..all in the same league.
Report Henry VIII December 8, 2010 4:17 PM GMT
Christina Aguilera and Rihanna are both huge, Christina is bigger, but who do we think is more popular to a UK audience right now?
Report five leaves left December 8, 2010 4:19 PM GMT
Without a doubt Christina Aguilera is the biggest of these in terms of an itv mainstream audience.
Report Mikeeey December 8, 2010 4:21 PM GMT
Really?  Beautiful was a great song but came out in 2003.  Aguilera hasn't had a top 10 hit here since 2006. I would have thought Rihanna was more 'relevant'.
Report attitude adjuster December 8, 2010 4:22 PM GMT
It's hardly George Michael walking back onto prime time tv for the first time in 10 years to sing.

All of these are standard fodder for the weekly show these days.

Now Prince would be a wow.
U2 would be a wow
Eminem would be a wow.
Report TheMadness December 8, 2010 4:22 PM GMT
Meaningless. George Michael was clearly the biggest name last year despite having done nothing for years except get high and crash his car. These shows are all about nostalgia. Unless you've got someone who really is big today like Beyonce or Lady Gaga, you're better off with someone who was big like them once upon a time.
Report stringerbell December 8, 2010 4:23 PM GMT
cant see matt and rihanna at all, just dont see the link

becca and christina singing beautiful makes perfect sense
Report Mikeeey December 8, 2010 4:24 PM GMT
I can't see the connection between Matt and Rihanna either tbh
Report attitude adjuster December 8, 2010 4:28 PM GMT
Agree with TM Happy
Report GymTanLaundry December 8, 2010 4:29 PM GMT
agree with nick and mikeeey - if rihanna was on i can only see her with one direction.
Report attitude adjuster December 8, 2010 4:29 PM GMT
i don't see christina and rebecca as a good pairing.

christina is all vocal histrionics....rebecca is quite the opposite.
Report GymTanLaundry December 8, 2010 4:30 PM GMT
apparently rihanna is duetting with JLS.

(that's just a warning not to totally believe all the rumours!)
Report five leaves left December 8, 2010 4:30 PM GMT
It's a no brainer for me.

Singing Beautiful with Aguilera or gawd knows what with Rihanna.

The initial rumour was Matt had Aguilera but if this is confirmed  and it's now Rebecca I'm more than happy
Report bunnyman December 8, 2010 4:36 PM GMT
I think Justin Bieber could have more voting impact than any of those acts, he's the only one with a blind irrational following that would multi vote for any act he appeared with. 

Christina is a big name, but she's not Beyonce.  With Alexandra duetting with Beyonce was beyond her wildest dreams and it showed.  Even if it meant as much to Rebecca to perform with Christina, which I really don't believe it would, she wouldn't show it because she is too shy and unexpressive.  If they sang 'Beautiful' it would give Rebecca a good vehicle to sell her voice, but I don't see this partnership being a Beyonce type defining moment.

As a Matt backer I'm not thrilled at the prospect of Rihanna.  I think she's as big a name as Christina, but what would they sing? 

Cher and Lavigne?  Poor Cher.

This time last year we had all sorts of false rumours right up to the day iirc.  Any reason to believe this rumour is credible?
Report GymTanLaundry December 8, 2010 4:38 PM GMT
http://twitter.com/DEANPIPER
Report Mikeeey December 8, 2010 4:40 PM GMT
isn't Deanpiper just repeating the rumours?
Report five leaves left December 8, 2010 4:41 PM GMT
Bieber doesn't appeal to anyone over 14, much like 1D.
It's hardly going to broaden their appeal.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B December 8, 2010 4:46 PM GMT
All rumours ................... blah blah blah blah

If my Granny had balls ..................
Report GymTanLaundry December 8, 2010 4:49 PM GMT
rumours that have moved the market, so hardly irrelevant on a betting forum, you sanctimonious twaat.
Report bunnyman December 8, 2010 4:49 PM GMT
Not everyone under 14 likes 1D figgy, my daughter for one.  Although in fairness she hates Bieber. However, if they were duetting with the Jonas Brothers I guarantee she would overcome her apathy towards 1D and get on the phone - no question.  I'm certain it will be the same for Bieber fans. 

I'm not convinced about the no-one over 14 likes 1D argument tbh.  Quite a few celebrity guests seem to like them, Holly Willerbooby likes them, people who ring up Xtra Factor seem to be disproportionately 1D fans (maybe because many of the callers are gay).  I know I'm quoting a very small sample but their name does seem to come up a lot more than I expect it to.
Report GymTanLaundry December 8, 2010 4:51 PM GMT
I'm not convinced about the no-one over 14 likes 1D argument tbh.

neither am i.  i imagine they have a fair few 20-something female fans.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B December 8, 2010 4:52 PM GMT
bunny

I'm sure most people in their twenties and obviously all the people older than that aren't going to vote for them in nothing like the proportions of Matt and Rebecca.  Say someone was 50 for arguements sake.  Matt comes on and wows em', Rebecca sings one of her nice tunes and sings it well.  Surely they'll be voting for them rather than a very very average boyband who just stand in a line and sing and the awful Cher.
Report TheMadness December 8, 2010 4:58 PM GMT
I don't know anyone over 20 who had even heard of Justin Bieber.
Report Henry VIII December 8, 2010 5:01 PM GMT
Looks like it's from a press release so a kind of confirmation - from the Sunday Mirror news editor:

jasav James Saville
X Factor news: Matt Cardle performing with Rihanna for live final. Cher with Avril Lavigne/ Rebecca with C. Aguilera/ OD with J.Bieber
1 hour ago
Report five leaves left December 8, 2010 5:03 PM GMT
Very few over 14 would prefer 1D to Matt or Rebecca imo.

Only a small sample but my eldest niece is mid 20's and she and her friends love Matt.

That is also backed up by all the decent polls.

Their price is ridiculous based on the evidence we have.
Report GymTanLaundry December 8, 2010 5:07 PM GMT
my girlfriend is mid-20s and loves one direction (particularly harry) and can't stand matt.

her mates are apparently "so over matt".

swings and roundabouts fll.
Report stringerbell December 8, 2010 5:07 PM GMT
ok guys let's take this mirror stuff as read for now

what do we think

matt - rihanna
reb - christina
one d - bieber

i cat help thinking it's pretty good for one d and good for rebecca. not so for matt

your views please?
Report GymTanLaundry December 8, 2010 5:08 PM GMT
btw fll, i do think they're underpriced, but not quite as much as you clearly do!!
Report bunnyman December 8, 2010 5:08 PM GMT
thats true TM - I only know of him because my daughter is constantly dissing him Laugh

His song 'Baby' got to number 3.  He was signed by Usher, don't know if that gives him any credibility.
Report stringerbell December 8, 2010 5:14 PM GMT
gtl - girlfriend in her mid 20s, how did you do that you scoundrel...Laugh
Report five leaves left December 8, 2010 5:14 PM GMT
Does she collect teddy bears GTL ?

Apart from you obviously ;)


I actually don't know anyone who likes them, or would say they're their favourites. Even my young nieces prefer Cher.
Whereas JLS were the favourite act amongst family and friends when they were in the final.
Report GymTanLaundry December 8, 2010 5:26 PM GMT
LOL nick - i'm in my 20s myself, so not some dirty old man like you lot!! [;)]

fll - i think she just sees them all as little sweethearts that are having a great time and not showing any rudeness/arrogance/ego - just lovely lads.  and i can see a few of the older mums out there thinking the same.

not that any of that necessarily translates into votes.
Report five leaves left December 8, 2010 5:35 PM GMT
Yeah, they do seem nice kids and I don't know anyone who actively dislikes them, it's just that Matt and Rebecca have more appeal to all age groups, other than the young teens and under.

That's how I see it anyway. Both from real life anecdotal evidence and from the polls and twitter.
Report Henry VIII December 8, 2010 5:40 PM GMT
Current odds give me the option of buying off my rather reckless 1D red and still be fat green on Rebecca and Matt but I just don't think it's worth it. I hope I don't live to regret it, maybe if they drift a bit more....
Report stringerbell December 8, 2010 6:49 PM GMT
i'm bang there with you henry....
Report Sammy LayThis Jr December 8, 2010 8:53 PM GMT
Apparently, Simon himself is taking to the stage, for the first time since Wonderdog, to sing a Rat-Pack medley with Sepp Blagger,Robert Mugabe and Nigel West Dickens.
Report bunnyman December 8, 2010 9:19 PM GMT
Been scouring Youtube for a song that Matt could do with Rihanna without any real success.  Then the penny dropped - he could steal the show with an acoustic version of Umbrella like he did with 'hit me baby one more time'. Found this version on Youtube - this will be right up Matt's street.  Bring Rihanna on half way through and it will be like one of those classic collaborations you get at the Brits.  Bring it on!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5paQ9BwFAgI
Report GymTanLaundry December 8, 2010 9:22 PM GMT
is that the biffy clyro live lounger cover?  it's not bad, but i don't think matt would have any say in what song he gets to sing with rihanna.

whatever anyone does is going to struggle to compete with rebecca/christina singing beautiful - if that's what happens.
Report attitude adjuster December 8, 2010 9:23 PM GMT
bunny,i hope danni is working half as hard Happy

2 hours shoveling snow tonight..trying to get the car back onto our main road

real graft = state of shock CryShocked
Report bunnyman December 8, 2010 9:30 PM GMT
Thanks Gym didn't know about the Biffy Clyro cover.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJAklQZ7kBg

If he does this it seals his victory - no question in my mind.  'Beautiful' will be great I'm sure, but this will have miles more impact.
Report A1 Bionic December 8, 2010 10:18 PM GMT
I'm not sure an Xfactor audience would quite get that
Report bunnyman December 8, 2010 10:28 PM GMT
aa good luck with the snow - I had that last week, tough work, a shock to the system! 

We have seen contestants do a twist on a classic song many times on Idol in particular, Cowell loves it.  I suspect they had this song in mind when they approached Rihanna.  As long as his voice holds up this would have a massive impact on Saturday night.

Having said that these rumours are probably rubbish anyway - the early ones normally are.
Report Mikeeey December 8, 2010 10:41 PM GMT
My instincts tell me that Matt/Rihanna doing Umbrella would beat Rebecca/Aguillera doing Beautiful
Report Benjy December 8, 2010 10:56 PM GMT
Agree with Mikey there. Not sure where FLL is coming from at all. Rihanna is now far bigger than Christina. Most people have probably forgotten all about the latter tbh.
Report bunnyman December 8, 2010 11:06 PM GMT
Just had a listen to 'Beautiful' doesn't anyone think its a little, er dull?  Not too sure what everyone is getting so excited about. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZjr0heZNIw

(Didn't think I was homophobic, but must admit the two guys french kissing made me recoil a little.)
Report GymTanLaundry December 8, 2010 11:20 PM GMT
you guys need to think about whose votes these performances need to win over.

beautiful is a fantastic song, and everyone (particularly women) can connect to it in some way i guess.

the song builds and builds with a huge ending.  can definitely see rebecca and christina raising the roof with this.
Report attitude adjuster December 8, 2010 11:32 PM GMT
she could just as easily miss the target again.

whenever she's had a chance to close the gap on Matt,she's fluffed it.

matt has the lead because he's already connected with the target audience several times.


this idea that singing with christina aguilera is some kind of major coup Laugh

she cancelled her recent tour...wonder why Mischief
Report Dizzy42 December 8, 2010 11:48 PM GMT
I'm green on the front three and was waiting on the duets announcement to balance up my book.

So speaking as a relative neutral (one that was big on Rebecca in the early stages, but convinced that Matt had it in the bag for the second half of the competition), I would say that this definitely swings it in favour of Rebecca.  Christina is different class to Rihanna (as Dannii knows as she's been fighting for Matt to get the hook up) and with Beautiful they'll have a killer punch.  If nothing else it certainly evens out the contest in the final stages.

It's got to be a two horse race now - Cher and One D are out of it based on that line up and it's a straight head to head.
Report George Bailey December 8, 2010 11:56 PM GMT
Christine will be generous in any duet with rebecca, rhianna will want to steal the show.
Report Ashley_Young December 9, 2010 12:00 AM GMT
yes Umbrella is a huge song I don't want them doing this - hopefully they'll do that rude boy song Laugh

Also Christina done an awful version of Beautiful on one of the dancing shows recently
Report five leaves left December 9, 2010 12:09 AM GMT
If she's big enough for the final of this years AI, she'll do for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNZP_BYYHNk&feature=related
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B December 9, 2010 12:15 AM GMT
Must admit whilst it could be anyone if Christina and Rebecca do sing 'Beautiful' it is a lovely song so a plus for Rebecca there if they do it.

One other thing to consider is don't they do about three songs in all so the 'celeb' one is only a third of their act.  They've still all got to impress with their own two songs.
Report Dizzy42 December 9, 2010 12:27 AM GMT
Assuming that one gets to be their best song of the series, then Matt will no doubt wheel out 'The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face' again, which will work a treat...

What will Rebecca choose?  She's not really had that same killer moment, although 'Make You Feel My Love' was very good.
Report Benjy December 9, 2010 12:33 AM GMT
1D now rumoured to be with Take That. Didn't think Bieber would
do it.
Report Dizzy42 December 9, 2010 12:35 AM GMT
Back to where we started then!  TT were always going to be the obvious call...
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B December 9, 2010 12:36 AM GMT
Dizzy

Excatly she hasn't had one.  Rebecca backers will biasedly say she's had one but we all know she just hasn't whereas Matt's undoubtably had at least three (that's why he's odds on favourite and she's over three times his price!) Of course he'll do that song wouldn't you if you knew it was your showstopper.  Do you think Macca's ever finished off his gigs with 'Hey Jude' once or twice?
Report five leaves left December 9, 2010 12:37 AM GMT
MYFML I hope.
It's been all over the media in trailers and the like over the last month so so. It's also perfect for the saturday night female audience.
Wicked Game was amazing too, but more niche.

Back to Christina. Star quality with a doubt and great legs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-USUDzycRvM
Report bunnyman December 10, 2010 9:46 AM GMT
Just been watching the Press Conference, Rebecca announcing her duet:

'I'm singing with Christina Aguilera and I'm very happy, she's very talented'

Could she be any less restrained in her excitement?  Contrast this with Alexandra - her duet with Beyonce was clearly the most extrordinary thing that had ever happened to her, it was an amazing moment that defined the series.  We're simply not going to get that on Saturday - can anyone imagine Rebecca dissolving into tears half way through the performance?
Report Dizzy42 December 10, 2010 10:17 AM GMT
Her restraint has been very strange all along.  Very underwhelmed by the whole experience.  Or so overwhelmed that she's like a rabbit in the headlights.  Either way you just want to shake her to show ANY emotion, passion, excitement - how can the GBP connect with her otherwise?!
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B December 10, 2010 10:22 AM GMT
Dizzy

I surmise you're talking about Rebecca.  Yes agreed she seems so nice and quiet that even if she won she'd probably just say 'Oh goodie" or something like that.  Perhaps that's rather endearing though to be fair but she is running out of time to really deliver a 'wow' moment.  Her fans promise it every week yet in about a dozen attemots so far she still hasn't.
Report five leaves left December 10, 2010 10:42 AM GMT
can anyone imagine Rebecca dissolving into tears half way through the performance?

I hope not.

Give me Rebecca's reserve over Alexandra's emotional diarrhea any day of the week
Report GymTanLaundry December 10, 2010 10:48 AM GMT
spot on fll!
Report bunnyman December 10, 2010 10:50 AM GMT
Come on guys - you know the voting public lap up all that nonsense. Cry
Report GymTanLaundry December 10, 2010 10:52 AM GMT
yep sadly they do.  but it is complete unprofessional nonsense.

i thought burke was a t*sser back then, and not seen anything to change my mind.  and that has nothing to do with the fact she cost me a few quid!!
Report bunnyman December 10, 2010 10:58 AM GMT
She cost me a fortune Gym, annoying after I'd had some amazing eviction results which she almost wiped out.
Report five leaves left December 10, 2010 11:05 AM GMT
She would have cost me too if I hadn't read in The Star that she topped the vote in the quarters. It was all over then, given Cowell clearly wanted her to win.

As for her OTT reaction during her Beyonce duet, I'm not sure that did her much good.
She won because she was clearly the best in the final and if anyone was in any doubt that she was the best, you had reminders from Cowell every 10 minutes.
Report bunnyman December 10, 2010 11:17 AM GMT
By the quarters my book was beyond redemption, I had a ludicruous red, I pulled a great deal back, but ended up massively all red in the process. 

We'll have to disagree on the Beyonce thing figgy, personally I think it was a huge vote winner.  Happy
Report five leaves left December 10, 2010 11:25 AM GMT
You'll probably right bunny.

My own strong dislike for that type of OTT, gushing, american style emotion is probably distorting my view
Report alfie46 December 10, 2010 11:32 AM GMT
winning was down to her performance of the x factor xmas single that year imo
Report Mikeeey December 10, 2010 11:39 AM GMT
Alexandra is just a pop singer - she is expected to be over emotional.  Rebecca is more classy and her behaving like a retard won't do her any good.  She is possibly too good and too credible for this show.
Report RowbeesFouler December 10, 2010 11:57 AM GMT
The Christine Ag of a few years ago might have seen Rebecca home but Rihanna is the big one at the moment.

Matt is brilliant but Rebecca is the one who would crack the US of A.

If C Ag isn't dressed like a scriff and sings "U R Beautiful" with Bec then the Scouse beauty can do it.
Cher should have a custard pie thrown at her and One Direction are 7 out of ten.
Report Journeyman December 10, 2010 4:40 PM GMT
I hope Cher and Will I am aren't doing Three words.
It's kinda dour... give us a 'Peas classic guys
Report GymTanLaundry December 10, 2010 4:41 PM GMT
rumoured to be singing "check it out" journeyman.
Report Journeyman December 10, 2010 4:44 PM GMT
Seriously!? Laugh

The 'haters you can kill yourself' line will go down well i'm sure
Report GymTanLaundry December 10, 2010 4:49 PM GMT
according to xfactor updates anyway.
Report Journeyman December 10, 2010 4:57 PM GMT
that'd certainly be an uncompromising way to go out, albeit maybe at the expense of my 'Cher Top 3' position

Doing the Fergie bit in 'Where is the Love' still makes the most sense to me. We'll see.
Report Guybrush Threepwood December 10, 2010 7:57 PM GMT
Confirmed?

Cardle and Rhinana
Rebecca and Aguliera
OD and Blobby Williams
Cher and the strange one from Black Eye Peas
Report Helmuthian Folds December 10, 2010 8:00 PM GMT
Cher and the strange one from Black Eye Peas

Well that could be any of the BEP's then! LaughLaugh
Report Guybrush Threepwood December 10, 2010 8:02 PM GMT
Well, thats what my TV listing says it will be. I assume thats the pairing then.
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