wagner needs to be in the top 4 tonight and the top 2 next week

can't see there being a sing off in semi's myself, my guess is 1 goes next week and 4 in the final ... or bottom 2 go next week

The judges don't have a say on who gets evicted from the semi final stage?

it's not a true semi final though is it with 5 acts left and as we've seen none of these rules are set in stone, so depending on what happens tonight will govern what rules they create for next weeks show.you've gotta remember that cowell is taking this show to america and under no circumstanec can wagner be allowed to win this show.

grendel is right, for next week's semi he will just need to avoid bottom slot, no sing off. UNLESS they decide to change things last minute to get rid of wagner...not impossible

They've got the press photos and statements of his drug dealer selling to him at the XF studios so in the unlikely event of him getting high votes they would  just disqualify him.

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Exactly. The drug photos are potentially sitting there waiting to be used if it doesn't go to plan tonight.

Henry 'd say the pics of him getting his stash ensures high votes and gives cowell a reason to get rid of him.

Wagner is teflon man now as those who are voting for him know this is all planned and just shores up wagners support.

Bit like when Robert Mitchum got done for possession in the 50s. Should have been the end of his career but mrerly confirmed his too cool for school image.

I just wish he'd share it with Rebecca so she'd chill out enough to deliver what she is clearly capable of.

Why on earth would anyone back Waggy to trade?

2-1 to avoid b3.

There's no way his price will come in that much even if he clears b3.

yeah it wouldnt suprise me in the least if cowell came up with a strategy whereby should wagner somehow get to the semi's that they will then have some kind of sing off wherby only the judges decide who goes to the final.

nothing to stop them from changing the rules to suit themselves,

think disqualifying waggy is not an impossibility, tho he would get so much stick for it

Wagner is not the only one on drugs - you can be sure of it. Dangerous strategy therefore to disqualify him for it, as I'm sure he won't keep quiet on the habits of others.

a sing off would be the only fair way to get rid of wagner....anyway he's not gonna win.easy enough for these internet campaigns to get something to number one at christmas (we're talking under 100,000 maybe) but totally different to win a competition where the votes are counted in millions.

A sing off would be the least fair way to get rid of wagner.

how ? ....please explain.

Because in a sing off Cowell decides. If by PV public decide. Greeks called it democracy.

Twitterati saying katie, wagner and rebecca in B3. Or wagner safe. Pays your money etc.

Lots of negativity for wagner now on twitter but with some support.

What % saves him?

Wagner's never seemed to get any particular twitter support bizzarely - if we went by twitter he'd be long gone.

But then, I always sense a lack of humour with those that use twitter to tweet about xfactor.

still can't believe that given the script this week, Laddys were offering 4/1 yesterday for Waggers to be 6th! capped a perfect weekend of specials betting

Sad to see the old boy go, mind!