early door bottom 2 predictions -

don't think so Benj

Cher & someone else.

katie and paige.

wagner and paije both truly awful perfomances paije was so far behind the backing singers it made me cringe as for the other piece why is he there

Bottom 2 very hard to predict after tonight many poor performances, I think the only one really safe is one direction, Paije I thought was one of the best but he has still got to be in the mix

any one thinks cher - spin are a buy at 3 still (25/10 index)

Cher & Paije - Cher goes

Cher and Wagnar

Cheers Squares.

cher / matt

Rebecca and cher

Why are quite a few of us saying Cher in bottom two? She has a strong fanbase and i thought her performance was better than a lot of rubbish tonight.

For me it's wagner and katie.

cher and katie - cher goes

i think rebecca could be in there ..her performance was dire..katie good this week i thought

the judges would never vote cher off ahead of katie are you deluded? all Simon sees when he looks at cher is £££

Because like Aiden she's not got a big fanbase. Just a small number of fans who make lots of noise.
She might be ok, but I doubt there will be much in it.

I don't get the Cher thing, actually thought she was quite good for once...

I Think Katie and Mary. Can't believe Katie's price has drifted so much!??!?!

the fact Wagner has a fan base makes me embarrassed to be British

katiewaisseI24
 
RT and please vote for me and @wagnermusic! It's a double elimination tomorrow night. #teamwagner #teamwaissel

Is it really a double elimination?

I don't know - I just read it on Weasels twitter page

very quick top up so far -

cher -7
katie -8
wag - 4
paige - 5
matt 1
reb - 1
mary 1

just got a msg from weasel:

I overheard people talking. There's still 8 people left with only 5 weeks of the show left, so it is possible :( xx

sounds like she is guessing

It's a single elimination

Its a hard one Rebecca ZZZZZZZ
             & Wagner

Cheers othh. Konnie also said another person goes tomorrow

I think the Biffa rant could well save Wagner. Early days but his layers could be ok again.

And Cher exactly same price to come bottom as to win the show. What's that all about?

george relax just people with no idea in a panic;stay strong with whatever u believe in

No panic just a genuine question re Cher's odds.  She could be another Aiden given her smoke and mirrors twitterati support.

I will keep the faith with Rebecca tho she was pretty poor. For her to say she was out of her comfort zome because she had to walk or something like that was a bit worrying.

George

Yes it wasn't a great quote from her was it.  Does she mind breathing or is that pushing it?

I don't think any of us will have been encouraged by what we saw tonight Lou.

exactly but stick to ur guns;dont be aloser and panic george;only the likes of lou and crab patties will;cos they r clueless

Lay class is permanent, form is temporary [;)]

George

When you say 'any of us' do you mean Rebecca backers?  I'm over the moon with Matt.  Sang a difficuilt dirge of a song well, got his coffin box slot out of the way, Rebecca absolutely awful on the night and Matt's odds have shortened.

Did you mean rebecca backers?

I am sorry Lou but i thought Matt was poor tonight and he looked silly,a bad night for both him and rebecca imo.

exactly even the greatest horse ive seen dancing brave couldnt win all the time

Yeah lay and that was because of the jockey.

i meant more so the american race

Lou I meant ALL backers. Matt was p*ss poor as well imo. No coincidence that Rebecca's price shrunk before she even got to sing.

Dancing Brave my fav horse too Lay. Bl*ody Starkey.

well spotted george

B2: God knows. I've backed Wagner and Cher. But whichever way I look at it Katie, Wagner, Paije, Cher and even on some measures OD and Mary could be down there. It's a week for careful punting.

Not a week to get massively involved in I agree, cant see Mary in the mix for the life of me probably her 2nd best performance she tops the vote for me.

I need to see how the polls pan out but so far I have greened up on all bar the top 3 in betting and Wagner.  My instinct with Wagner is that with 8 still left Wagners support will be more than big enough to get him the 7 or 8% he will need to avoid bottom two.

I genuinely think Biffa has made him safe this week

Tricky week on b2. I've gone for 1D and Cher on Spin, might have another look on here closer to sunday show

Changed my mind, Katie will be safe I think.

Paije/Mary b2

KAtie and Mary - flip of a coin who goes

is it possible they have hung back with the double eliminations in the hope that wagner was in the bottom 3 and this has not happened yet,just a thought.we must be getting close to the point where they will have to do it regardless of who is in trouble now i guess,i do not think i have ever seen the elimination market so unsure as it is this week.

It should be quite straightforward this week, but it never is is it? The only contestants not safe imo are Wagner, Katie and Rebecca who were all diabolical. Hopefully Rebecca has enough followers, including me, who know she can do better. We know that Wagner can't and that Katie can't very often. Assuming that Katie & Wagner are in the bottom 2, Louis is surely going to be the only judge that votes for Wagner. Consequently Wagner goes, n'est ce pas?

btw, what a terrible night last night, only Mary sang up to her potential, reminding me of Shirley Bassey a bit. Anyone who thinks that she will go tonight really hasn't got a clue. She is very very safe.

Paije and Cher

Paije goes

mary and cher in bottom 2 a tip from those in the know

Katie and Paige

too obvious for producers but good luck

Rebecca and Paige

I'm with othh. It's very tricky this week.
I thought Mary was well safe, but on some measures she's struggling.
At the same time Katie is doing signifacntly better than she has on previous weeks and Wagner is doing well too and Paije not bad either.

I suspect when the figures for this week are pulished it will be incredibly close at the bottom, with most of the field between 6 & 10 %

..I'll stick with Paije and Cher though

where is the bottom 2 combo market this year? I suppose all this uncertainty over over single and double elims dont help.

update
cher-11
katie-10
paige-8
wag-6
mary- 3
reb-3
matt-1
1d-1

Well, DS poll is Rebecca and Wand Erection

Hey layprofessional, how come you've not called the b2 right yet this series, what with all your inside information and working for the man?
Last week it was Mary and Paige, then Katie, with Wagner or Paige. Just saying...

none of these popularity stats official or otherwise mean jack sh1t, as proven last week when all of them had Katie at the bottom.

Cher and Rebecca are the two 'shock' candidates for the bottom two, although both would survive in a sing off with Katie, Wagner or Mary IMO.

Actually the collective stats have been very accurate so far. As has been said elsewhere last week was where things got complicated. Katie predicted to be bottomm and was second bottom; favs get beat.

There is always the first "shock" of every series and the trick is predicting it. Some (not me)predicted it on here.

If D Vickers was the Queen of the Twitterati then Aidan was the King. Who left is wearing the Emperor's New Clothes of twitterati popularity?

Polls etc are also even more useful imo for predicting who WON'T be in the frame.  I'd have to check all my own posts but I'm pretty sure I have been consistent in calling paije and wagner safe every week where it mattered. Trusting that information, as some have done,means that its been almost impossible to lose money on evictions thus far.

As before all the various polls/stats posted on here are just meant as a guide. Do with them what you will.

So is Cher a gonner tonight George?

Just doing some number crunching novelty will post soon...my book says I hope so but I'm also green on her to win which reflects the confusion in the market about her I guess

hurry up george ffs,we ain't got all day

Cher and Katie

Katie goes finally thank goodness

Blimey I'm under more pressure than Rebecca last night

After all this I'll probably be miles off

Will post in next hour

George B you do make me laugh. you are the biggest guesser on here!

[;)]

George B - the man from Del Monte - he say??

Cher and Rebecca for me

That would be some big priced forecast Asparagus

He say "I haven't got a clue" Liam

I'm going to guess Mary and Paije. Both extremely average and should have gone a long time ago.

^ total guesser

Rebecca and Wagner on last nights performances both were dire...

wagners performances are always dire but the anti cole vote is just about to kick in.

cher won't be bottom two, not in a million years.

LOL  - some big red layers saying Rebecca - FAT chance!!! No way will 1D, Matt or Rebecca be in bottom 3!!

By: Asparagus Man When: 21 Nov 10 18:21 Cher and Rebecca for me


i'd like to know what you are taking.

you can add cher to that list charwell. i've laid her heavily at around 14s for ninth elim and she's my tip to win the whole thing.

Not so sure Prince, I feel she could slip into bottom 2 but unless against 1 of the big 3 will be saved.

I'll stick with the polls and say paije, mary and katie are bottom three.

Then depart from them and say Paije and (toss a coin) katie bottom two with paije going after going to deadlock.

With neither Mary nor Paije having been in the bottom two before, do you not think that this has to be Katie's time if she's still in the bottom two after the image change and pimp slot?!

charwell, cher is massively underrated in the winner's market, although I understand that's just my opinion. given how much they fix the judges votes on eviction night to get newspaper stories the next day, i'd be very concerned if she was bottom two, but I can't see it.

I'm basing mine Dizzy on deadlock but you would thinkk it should be 3-1 katie out. That said I suspect Cowell is under pressure from Sony to deliver and he has no shame so who knows. Louis could easily support katie over paije after his rant last night on Xtra Factor.

Suspect not the proverbial midge's between the bottom four.

Lots of digital spy 'spoilers' are coming up with lots of different options! It's tough to call - you might as well back some outsiders like mary and Cher

Well at least green up. I'm betting on wagner being safe.

Wagner is going. Get on!!!

hmm, very very difficult indeed, bottom two paige and katie, paige goes.....

Paige and Katie

final figures

cher-14
katie-12
paige-11
wag-7
mary- 4
reb-6
matt-1
1d-1

not bad at all

Proves the theory of the Wisdom of Crowds imo. People have done thesis' on less than they could get on here!

Very surprised by Cher being in the bottom 2. Thought she actually sang as well as she had on the show that last week. Her bottom 2 song was extremely impressive. Obviously the Wagner protest vote seems to be dragging on longer than I would have imagined it would do, hopefully it can carry on to next week.

Cher bolt totally shot

1D next GB?

damn u sc lying to us;at least he gave us cher and we got the 7s at laddies late katie to be first maned thru