x factor contestants in the media

you seem to have missed brookstein and Ward off your top list Papa

didn't pay too much attention to the x factor back then.

were they in the media a lot?

Ward's family are one of the biggest gangster families in Manchester

There was plenty of sh1t thrown at him, a lot worse than Matt can ever get

We've always loved gangsters though, unlike whining rich boys.

interesting.  although i think the press, the show and the scale of manipulation has moved on somewhat in recent years.

We've always loved gangsters though

bodes well for cher then innit

Can I just make it clear that I don't like gangsters and prefer whining rich boys.  Hope it's ok to say that and I won't get shouted down for it.  Just my opinion ...................... that's all.

I quite liked the sporano's

Not so keen on manchester drug dealing scum though

A1

Where you from?

Birmingham

London Town me.  I'm up your way soon.  Right in Birmingham?  Went to Solihull recently, nice place.  Plenty of wedge about there I think.

im the other side, Sutton Coldfield

And my kettles broke before you ask

Ha ha fair enough.

Do quite a bit in the West Midlands for some reason.  You must all have plenty up there to spend.  All rich punters like you no doubt. (wink)