Rebecca - most OVER-RATED on the show

Think rachel's quite good.

what about Rachel?

a 10th rate anna simone.

So who else agrees? No chance at all. There is not a single person with proven success betting on this show that things she will win, so don't kid yourselves. I know for a fact what the X Factor is, and she doesn't have it.

as i said b4 keep laying her and ill keep hoovering up the prices;CERTAINTYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY U R ALL THICK STUPID AND BLIND

LISTEN TO HER VOICE LARRY;different class to all the rest and not fake like the majority

I think you're right Larry_Larry. Treyc has got a great voice. But to be honest, I think she's making a terrible mistake going down the Rock path.
As for Rebecca, she just seems to get better and better. What a star.

Rubbish, Rebecca has no chance, believe me.

You could well be right Larry_Larry. Isn't this where the show falls down ? It's just a popularity contest at the end of the day.

Best vocals on the show. I'd rather listen to Matt though, think most people think that way which is the key to his victory.

I don't believe you Larry. But hey be boring if we all agreed.

not had the right songs yet may never get the right songs,but over-rated never

Simon wont let Matt win Angela, he loves those boys too much. It's all about money now. Good luck with it though.
If they do find the right songs mach, the album will sell like hot cakes.

One of the best voices I've heard on one of these shows. You can hear singers like Treyc up and down the country doing back up vocals. Rebecca actually has a voice that can match the truly great singers of yesteryear (Nina Simone, not Anna, you dipstick) before the likes of Whitney and Mariah came and ruined the art of singing (Leona is not a great singer imo). As for her supposed lack of personality... Like I said on another thread, you've got to be a clown or a charlatan to make people think you have a personality these days.

"Leona is not a great singer imo" - that tells me everything I need to know about you.

Fool.

She's not a great singer. In the same way Mariah Carey is not a great singer.

I think this depends on definition.

leona can belt out a tune and hit all the notes with ease but when you hear a song of hers you haven't heard before it is hard to tell it is her so she is great technically but has nothing original or distinctive.

My favourite female singer atm is Ellie Jackson and every time you hear a new La Roux song you know exactly who it is.  She may not have the power or range of Leona but has an original and brilliant voice.

Celine Dione, Mariah Carey, Leona etc are just clones really, very good at what they do and selling records  singing false sentimentality to middle aged women but none will ever be grat singers but are all great money making machines.

my opinion is matt is the most overated but as i say its only an opinion this competition is so bent its unrealjedward last year confimed that this year we have 2 crap acts cher and w anker

whatever you think of leona's style

her performance of "Summertime" on X factor is still the benchmark for the girls
and no one is in sight of that this year..... so far.

"Celine Dione, Mariah Carey, Leona none will ever be grat singers"

You are having a laugh, all 3 of those can breeze through almost any song just effortlessly.  Perhaps not my style of music but you cannot dispute that the are fantastic singers

HF is a clown. I never even heard of Ellie Jackson so no matter how original and brilliant her voice may be - just like Rebecca - she doesn't have the X-Factor, and believe me, I know the X-Factor when I see it.

I thought you said you hated the x factor. You are a naughty boy Larry_Larry.

I am a clown but the fact you don't know who Ellie Jackson is hardly makes you a guru!

It was a misspelling. I meant to said 'I have' the X-Factor.

Evening

She has something I have never seen on this or any other of these Reality things.  Pure Class.

different league imo

WINNER

Does Larry_Larry know everything, oh wow !

I'm a convert to Rebecca. Watched all her songs on youtube today. Pure class as above. If burke can win Beccy is certainly value bet. 4s within a fortnight.

8's is a gift from father Christmas

Trouble is it's x-factor so anything can happen.

One Direction look to be heading for a lot of money.

Class is permanent form is temporary.  On her VT she says she used to be a real confident performer all her life except for confidence crash when single.  The confidence will return and the class will show.

Her and Cher ones to watch now. Mary can't win. Matt = Crisp in National. One Direction; too many of them can't sing and believe their own publicity.

Still can't agree about Rebecca sorry.  She's good but not that good and really doesn't put it across well I don't think.  Too shy, stiff as a board and I'm not sure she'll make the last three.  Just my opinion..... no offence.

Hey Lou it's all about opinions; why would anyone be offended because someone disagrees?

Becca vs Cardle

George

For some reason people on here don't like me pulling them up when they spout utter nonsense. "I think One D are topping the vote every week" or "I think Matt's singing Eternal Flame this week" 'Wagner will make the final FACT'  All utter tosh like that.  I try to be fair and give my opinion which could well be wrong but that doesn't sit well with most posters on here.  Shame really as I enjoy joining in and giving me two penneth worth.

But Lou when you say others "spout utter nonsense" don't forget they are entitled to that opinion! Respect that. I may not agree with what someone has to say but I will fight to the death to protect their right to say it.

George

Oh of course I'm all for that but how is "Wagner WILL make the final FACT" an opinion?  or "Rebecca is shyt"?  In their OPINION Rebecca may be shyt, doesn't mean to say she is.  When I pull them on it they don't like it.

But clearly those are theor opinions Lou.  If someone thinks she's shyte then she is to them. If you think she is the best thing since sliced bread then that's your opinion too; doesn't make it right or wrong.

Clearly the Wagner comment is also a poorly worded opinion.

Believe it or not some people vote Tory....yes I know but still that's their opinion.

All part of life's rich tapestry.

So why not put "IMO Rebecca is shyte".  That's fine and they're well entitled to say it.  I would also say 'Wagner will make the final FACT' is hardly poorly worded.

Rebecca is a pile of dog plop. (imo)

Lou surely you can't expect everyone to prefix every opinion with IMO? Blimey we communicate on a higher level than that as human beings.

Wagner quote is poorly worded in that it is expressed as a fact when clearly it isn't...it's an opinion.

GB has given an example of another opinion; he just happens to be wrong and time will prove that to be the case...though that's not a fact it's my pinion..unless it turns out to be right and then I will claim the factual nature of the statement backed up witht he mighty sword of hindsight.

Aristotle eat yer heart out.

George

Ok we see each others point I'm sure.  I don't think Rebecca's the most over rated on the show but I've layed her so don't think she'll actually win it ..... Here's hoping!

Apart from Wagner at crazy prices she's my biggest green so here's hoping!

George

Fair enough may the best man win!

Wouldn't wish for that Lou, could leave you in a spot of bother! [;)]

rebecca is pure class keep laying u idiots

bit melodramatic george

rebecca has an amazing voice, dont think that is disputable. larry larry frankly is pretty clueless

but it's quite samey, i dont think it has huge versatility, and i wonder whether she can garner votes like one direction and matt. think she is a finalist though

sshe hasn't even got going properly yet just going through the gears whilst the others are going full pelt already. i feel she can change it up with a pop number once she does the layers will be running for the hills. she's a class above.

Ashley

You're not saying she's deliberately not tried her best for the first three weeks?

no, i'm saying she has a lot more to give. i don't see that from the others.

Nick not sure which George is being melodramatic (maybe we are both drama queens ) bit if she makes final as you say then we cash in anyway..unless I let it all ride as I usually do.

I agree with Ashley's summary. Sometimes you just get a vision of someone being announced the winner and I see that with Beccy (to her friends)but not with Matt.

But hey like with politics a week is a long time in x factor.

hey george i was referring to your fight for the right for free speech diatribe. happen to agree with you of course fella, in principle, just laughed at the incongruity of it appearing in an x factor thread on betfair

LOL yeah it was late and I was tired and I thought mself it was getting a bit metaphysical.

talking of metaphysical

Jean-Paul Sartre sat in a Paris cafe one afternoon, revising his draft of Being and Nothingness, when the waitress approached."A cup of coffee, please," he said to her. "No cream."

"I'm sorry, monsieur," said the waitress, "but we're out of cream today. Would you like no milk instead?"