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that dope wagner bottom 3 , cowell won;t stand for this rant , have all u can on . it's just about free money . has chance of not being bottom 3 !!!!!!
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i will , can't see how he's not bottom 3 . cowell won't stand for it , will be on first just watch .
i meant to say..... has NO chance of not being bottom 3 !!!!!! sorry .
good , my winning have gone on this back , thanks lanza . gl .
i quite like wagner, wont win it, but hoping for a few more wks. gl also. You doing the sa v zim odi 2mor?
Ignore MOrse at your peril. He is a betting superhero - he even has his own appreciation thread on the cricket forum.
thanks lads . 100 % chance of him being bottom 3 and u can back evens , MAX BET .
Don't be so sure, if Cowell's small minded he'll hate it, if not he may love the controversy and publicity and want to keep Wagner in.
don't doubt it he'll hate it . wagners a goner !!!!!
Nice tip on the draw in Ind v Aus test at 1.3 Sam. 
Pretty good lay imo. As Henry says Cowell might appreciate the publicity and with talk about an anti-cowell vote for Wagner anyway the rant could have done him good. Not been in the B3 yet and no real reason to think that will change.
Being first isn't much of a negative for an act like Wagner anwyay.
Being first isn't much of a negative for an act like Wagner anwyay.
People forget just how low Jedward were in the votes alot of weeks, and Wagner is far far away from having their level of support imho. An early song and the Wagner Express is derailed.
correct angela , and cowell will put him on early to make sure he's gone . absolute cert .
Jedward were 1.2% away from being bottom 3 in Week 3
AND
they sang in the PIMP SLOT
People getting massively carried away with Wagner, he's not invincible. Gone are the days where you could lay him odds on to be evicted bottom, now you're laying the bet for bottom 3.
The markets wisened up, I'd not want to take this bet on if he was on early.
GLA as always.
AND
they sang in the PIMP SLOT
People getting massively carried away with Wagner, he's not invincible. Gone are the days where you could lay him odds on to be evicted bottom, now you're laying the bet for bottom 3.
The markets wisened up, I'd not want to take this bet on if he was on early.
GLA as always.
exactly . 100 % chance of being bottom 3 and u can have evens , should be 1.1 maximum .
Well, there are more acts this time around at this stage, and Wagner certainly has the rebel vote atm, so it's certainly not a 1.1 shot. I'd want to know where he was singing before I took any real view on the betting proposition at 2.0.
Angela
One of Cheryl's acts have closed the show and one of Dannii's so far. Logically then it could well be a Simon or Louis act. As Simon only has two I'm guessing it will be a Louis act. Therefore I think of the three Wagner will close the show. Just a pure guess really but with a tiny bit of logic perhaps.
One of Cheryl's acts have closed the show and one of Dannii's so far. Logically then it could well be a Simon or Louis act. As Simon only has two I'm guessing it will be a Louis act. Therefore I think of the three Wagner will close the show. Just a pure guess really but with a tiny bit of logic perhaps.
Jedward were talentless and annoying.
Wagner has talent and is likeable.
How much would you like @ evens Angie?
Wagner has talent and is likeable.
How much would you like @ evens Angie?
C'mon FLL, don't be like that. Where in my last post did I allude to any assurity about the betting proposition.
Wagner certainly isn't talented, but he is very likeable. I think Jedward were very likeable to alot of the voting demographic as well.
I agree with you Lou, I'd not be surprised to see him on last either.
Wagner certainly isn't talented, but he is very likeable. I think Jedward were very likeable to alot of the voting demographic as well.
I agree with you Lou, I'd not be surprised to see him on last either.
Im a big Wagner fan and think he wont be bottom three, but I wouldnt say he was talented 
Angela Rebecchi Joined: 15 Sep 02
Replies: 15361 21 Oct 10 13:23
Well, there are more acts this time around at this stage, and Wagner certainly has the rebel vote atm, so it's certainly not a 1.1 shot. I'd want to know where he was singing before I took any real view on the betting proposition at 2.0.
five leaves left Joined: 24 Dec 05
Replies: 13341 21 Oct 10 13:29
Jedward were talentless and annoying.
Wagner has talent and is likeable.
How much would you like @ evens Angie?
I've posted constructive points RE Jedward, and you come in like an autistic bulldozer once again, with nothing but short snappy pointless comments. You're cleverer than that, so lets use this forum as a mechanism to help everyone and not just continually ramp our own books yeah.
Replies: 15361 21 Oct 10 13:23
Well, there are more acts this time around at this stage, and Wagner certainly has the rebel vote atm, so it's certainly not a 1.1 shot. I'd want to know where he was singing before I took any real view on the betting proposition at 2.0.
five leaves left Joined: 24 Dec 05
Replies: 13341 21 Oct 10 13:29
Jedward were talentless and annoying.
Wagner has talent and is likeable.
How much would you like @ evens Angie?
I've posted constructive points RE Jedward, and you come in like an autistic bulldozer once again, with nothing but short snappy pointless comments. You're cleverer than that, so lets use this forum as a mechanism to help everyone and not just continually ramp our own books yeah.
I've posted constructive points RE Jedward, and you come in like an autistic bulldozer once again, with nothing but short snappy pointless comments. You're cleverer than that, so lets use this forum as a mechanism to help everyone and not just continually ramp our own books yeah.
Says the person ramping Matt on every thread he can find!
FLL has found the one youtube where Wagner sings fairly in tune, so therefore the lad has oodles of talent.
FFS, the man is a joke in terms of singing ability, and is clearly the novelty act, per se Jedward, this year. Alot will not be pleased he's included this year, alot of anti-Cowellites, will be pleased and will vote for him.
On last or thereabouts and I'd think he'd be a fair lay at 2.0 to be bottom 3.
FFS, the man is a joke in terms of singing ability, and is clearly the novelty act, per se Jedward, this year. Alot will not be pleased he's included this year, alot of anti-Cowellites, will be pleased and will vote for him.
On last or thereabouts and I'd think he'd be a fair lay at 2.0 to be bottom 3.
Angela Rebecchi Joined: 15 Sep 02
Replies: 15363 21 Oct 10 13:11
Looks a cracking bet at Evens must admit.
Replies: 15363 21 Oct 10 13:11
Looks a cracking bet at Evens must admit.
Shouldn't have posted my first 2 weeks eviction profits. When you milk £12k people are bound to get upset and riled. My bad.
So I'm the only one who can post constructive points, no wonder I make it pay and you lot don't (you win but not much ). If you had my attitude you might make the big time but once again you just throw stones out of jealousy.
Now what views do you have on him apart from that he is uber talented.
). If you had my attitude you might make the big time but once again you just throw stones out of jealousy.Now what views do you have on him apart from that he is uber talented.
Angela Rebecchi Joined: 15 Sep 02
Replies: 15367 21 Oct 10 13:45
I think Matt will win HF.
I'm sure you do but as stated before do you have to ramp him on every available thread?
Replies: 15367 21 Oct 10 13:45
I think Matt will win HF.
I'm sure you do but as stated before do you have to ramp him on every available thread?
No, I post my views on him. I make him a 3.0 favourite in my book, and had him 3.5 post Week 1 so bet accordingly at some very juicy prices. I will always post my honest objective opinions. You have to remain like that to win in this game. It's the big difference between me and the small timers on here i.e. FLL who has told us Wagner is talented, and Matt is a poor singer.
Ang we all know ur a blinkered ramper so dont try and convince us otherwise.
You put your money down and then ramp like crazy, its ok if thats what you want to do but please do not paint yourself as objective!
You put your money down and then ramp like crazy, its ok if thats what you want to do but please do not paint yourself as objective!
Course I'm objective! I make him a 3.0 shot, if he was that now I'd lay off my bet.
Matt Cardle 4.89 £21,100.00 £82,002.59
A winners a winner though.
Matt Cardle 4.89 £21,100.00 £82,002.59
A winners a winner though.
well done on grabbing 50% of what been traded above 5,s Angela
Feck me, you're graph reading skills are shoddy son, wish I had done though, yeah!
who cares about matt get ur bank on wagner bottom 3 .
I have no idea why you would want to bullshit about your bets, just makes you look foolish imo
Never do anymore. My new leaf. GL with your bets.
WAGNER went 14th of 16 the first week and 10th of 14 the second week.
He must be due an early start, in my book.
And by the same reasoning JOHN who went 3rd of 16 in week one and 6th of 14 in week two is entitled to a late start.
He must be due an early start, in my book.
And by the same reasoning JOHN who went 3rd of 16 in week one and 6th of 14 in week two is entitled to a late start.
cracking bet even at 1.8 it is now
my reasoning
1- this rants gotta mean he does not like his song
2 - some very good reasons to assume he will be very early to sing
been on late both weeks/his rant/fact cowell lost two already and his main rival for bottom 3 is bell amie,
my reasoning
1- this rants gotta mean he does not like his song
2 - some very good reasons to assume he will be very early to sing
been on late both weeks/his rant/fact cowell lost two already and his main rival for bottom 3 is bell amie,
I think it's about a 3/1 shot.
Happy to lay as much as you like @ 1.8,
Happy to lay as much as you like @ 1.8,
should be 1.1 will be on early , poor song with rant , cowell will want rid who knows how the votes will be done [;)][;)][;)][;)][;)]
where can you bet on xfactor on betfair I cant find the section?
2 - some very good reasons to assume he will be very early to sing
If he's singing Relax and there's more boob grabbing then he's unlikely to be on pre-watershed.
I predict another late slot.
If he's singing Relax and there's more boob grabbing then he's unlikely to be on pre-watershed.
I predict another late slot.
more bad press today , he's going for sure sunday night , get on while u can i m o .
Don't get these, it's the best price ever posts, especially on such an illiquid market, clearly billy bullshiners.
LA - If I remember correctly, Jedward did not have a front half slot until well into the competition. I think it all depends on whether Cowell and producers still want Wagner in after the rant. My guess is that they still see the PR value in him remaining for another week or two.
ttt for any working midweek mugs who missed this .
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