3rd Elimination Discussion

Goes on what they're going to sing of course and how they perform on the night but at a pure guess I would say Wagner and Katie in trouble.  I don't bet on the eviction markets but they would be my choices.

would like to see the running order before placing a bet of course!

if wagner's on early, he could be in trouble.  likewise belle amie.

didn't see katie's sing off performance but a few people have said she was decent so that might have picked her up a few fans.  however i would guess that she came 2nd bottom in the vote this week.  the only reason i think this is that they clearly wanted her to stay ahead of FYD and they didn't let it go to deadlock - which suggests to me that she came 2nd bottom.

which in turn would suggest that the 5/1 is a big price.

But is it Madonna?

Guess who that suits. Pimp slot too maybe

GB - that's the other i'd want to know, what's the theme?

are there rumours of it being madonna week?

there's talk of DS that there's going to be a cher week, with cher herself singing gypsies, tramps and thieves.

is it another double eviction is the most important question

We were talking about it yesterday Papa. Dunno if Madonna is true or not tbh, or the source

wagner does madonna

like a virgin would be some act

Cher week [smiley:crazy]

cj - i'd assume there are double eviction each week until they're back on track number-wise.

just a guess though.

Sod it who took the 10/1 John?

I was trying to get it but account issues

cheryl cole is getting mullered in the tabloids....katie is getting mullered in the tabloids.....they won't be saving her for much longer...she'll be thrown to the wolves soon enough.....if this cole bashing carries on much longer....ashleys popularity will actually start to pick up

Surely has to be another double eviction for the next 2 or probably 3 weeks.

you would think so, but I would like it confirmed

CJ, have a feeling it may not be officially confirmed until Saturday evening.

Remember all they care about is the voters and not the gamblers and the voters have no need to know until the phone lines open.

it will definitely be a double eviction and for my money paige is in a spot of bother

yep, paije could be one of the ones in bother, especially if he gets an early slot (good chance i'd say given that the other two bots are matt who went early this week and aiden who had the big performance).

i'd want to hear some strong rumours about the theme though.

HF I think you are probably right, we won't know till Saturday.

I don't know why they are introducing all the secrecy. It's daft and turning a good show into a farce.

As for the elimination, I was amazed Katie wasn't the least popular this week but am sure she will be this week. The show can do all it tries, but even this is beyond Cowell.

It also seems as if people are severely underestimating Wagner. Of course he won't win, but he is likable and isn't dreadful like Diva Fever.

HOW TIMES CHANGE I CAN REMEMBER TAKING 10K LAYING ALL COMPETITORS IN THE ELIMINATION MARKET 4 YEARS AGO.
NEVER EVEN HAD ANY BET LAST SATURDAY.

Real Moaner

I like Diva Fever entertainment wise of the two so it just proves how opinions differ.  Don't think Wagner will be around too long but possibly a buy at 200 with a view to laying?

If it's madonna, there's no way Katie will be eliminated. Absolutely no chance. The madonna week has come so early to save her skin! In fact can anyone explain to me why the judges want katie in? I know it's 'publicity' but it's not good publicity. Before you say it, I know any publicity is good publicity but a machine like X Factor doesn't need katie to keep viewing figures up for goodness sake! Nevertheless the consensus is that katie has to stay so she will sing last on saturday and be 'the star'. she won't get many votes, but she won't be in the bottom three. No chance.

As for Wagner - surely him doing madonna would be so hilarious he'd get a lot of comedy votes.

What on earth is this show coming to. Wagner is someone we were meant to be finding funny in the early auditions - he wasn't meant to be at judges house, let alone the live show! i dont get why a retired pe teacher/miguel angel jimenez is singing alongside people who genuninly have dreams to be a pop star. too many weirdos. Who thinks it's actually entertaining? i'd seriously rather have 12 acts who were all realistic pop stars in their own way (no harm in people like cher who are different) than the likes of wagner, diva fever, nicolo, storm etc who the public will get bored of once the novelty has worn off. It's just pathetic and feels like the competition won't start properly until about 8 are left.

Diva Fever will probably stand out doing madonna. im curious to know what John will do. They will have to give him one of madonna's most tuneful ones and there can be no doubt he'll be able to make it his own. That will hopefully, for his sake, allow him to shake the invisible man tag. doubt he'll get a spot near the end of the show tho. they don't care about him. will probably chuck him in near the beginning again. Such a shame to stitch someone up like that. i want him to survive purely because he has no gimmicks. not that im a fan of having a 'stand there and sing nicely' winner but id much rather he stays than weird crap.

I reckon they'll give one of the guys "frozen", but not sure about the rest.

If they want someone out they'll give them "music" or "holiday".

John needs to tell Louis what he's doing - not the other way around Novelty

He has the experience. If he lets Louis choose, he deserves all he gets imho

I think given an average slot Katie could even go in Madonna week tbh

On Xtra Factor they were interviewing Dannii and Nicolo and she said "It could be any two of this lot sitting here next week"

great spot JHF

I know any publicity is good publicity but a machine like X Factor doesn't need katie to keep viewing figures up for goodness sake!

Actually it does. I agree with you that it's more like a freak show than a singing contest but it's all about viewing figures.

Somebody on another thread says that who wins is the only thing Cowell worries about but the money is in the TV show. If they got 12 million viewers last time then what Cowell worries about is it slipping to 11 mill, and how to get 13 mill next time.

sure, i think both are important to him. amazing really with what he stands for that he is in someway still quite likeable

Don't let jr see you saying things like that nick

Betfair market now up

Quick question - when did Betfair get the 2nd Elimination market up last week - was it only during the show?

Was away all weekend so missed all the action...

Never opened AM

Thanks GB - do you reckon BF would put up a 4th Elimination now if enough of us asked?

They put it up and never open it [;)]

I've sent them an email and will report back.

Why have they only put up a 3rd elimination market?

I was expecting a "To be eliminated" or "Bottom 3" market as well.

Thank you for your e-mail.

We are waiting for confirmation as to whether it’s a double eviction this week. If it is announced on Saturday’s show then a 4th Elimination market will be activated

Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any further enquiries.

...and then not opened

I think Belle Aime will be in trouble this week.

The theme for this week is 'Heroes'

Pretty ambiguous admittedly and not much more info apart from chat of going for high notes.

All can be found towards the end of this (which is quite amusing anyway)

http://xfactor.itv.com/2010/the-f-factor/watch_the-f-factor-week-1_item_400053.htm

Waissel is far too short, after the beatles performance, the judges will surely put her through against Wagner, Diva Fever, Belle Amie etc.  Very good lay imo.

She was b3, likely b2, despite a host of headlines and attention, second only to Cher in media fuss

I can't see her adding many voters. She's deeply unlikable. The price is fair for me

Also the judges have no say in who goes 1st in a double eviction!

Yep. Glen, you're on the wrong thread marra

after last week having decent prices on belle amie,john,wagner and FYD all for first elimination im giving it a miss. total lottery, bring back BB evictions asap

As I said on another thread, Danni when being interviewd with Nicolo on the Xtra Factor where all the acts sit together afterwards said "It could be any two from this lot sat here next week"

It's most certainly a double eviction.

Apparently on the preview/trailer for Saturday's show they confirm it's another double.

Bounce factor is the main reason to expect Katie to avoid B3, think it could be enough though with a few people saying she is being treated in fairly this week as well.

I took the comment about the king to mean she was singing Elvis though not The Beatles?

Do we get running order before Saturday night?

Bounce factor from week 1 is distinctly non-existant though Benjy

2009: Rachel Adedeji - Bottom two first two weeks
2008: Girlband - Bottom two first two weeks
2007: Alisha - Bottom two first two weeks

Worth noting that after Rachel finish in the bottom two first 2 weeks and the public was majorly against her, she went on top top the vote in week 3 (and then back down to last place in week 4)

Could be a similar pattern with Katie if she's bottom 3 and saved by the judges again. Would expect her to get a massive vote in week 3, and then crash out in week 4. Could throw up a few good betting opportunities if this is the case.

FWIW I think the bounce factor largely consists of the fanbase being motivated to vote after the scare of seeing their contestent in the bottom two. If you're bottom two in the first week, it's because you don't have a fanbase, therefore will not get much of a bounce.

The other "bounce" is a sympathy vote, and as of yet Katie doesn't really have this either.

good posts jack

Hissy fits all round:

Diva Fever have reportedly had a falling out over who sings which lines in their upcoming X Factor performance on Saturday.

According to Metro, Craig Saggers and Joe Al-Smadi argued over the lead in yesterday's rehearsal for Musical Heroes week.

A source told the newspaper: "Diva Fever have been arguing throughout the day on which lines each of them gets to sing of this week's song. It's not ideal with just 48 hours to go."

Some great press for Katie on DS Headlines.

- being branded a sex tease by a music promoter in The Star;
- Danyl speaking up in support of her;
- Jordan and Alex are fans.

Week 1 to 4
Double eliminations.

The act with the lowest number of votes will be eliminated straight away.
The following two acts with the lowest number of votes will then take place in a sing-off and face the judges votes.

Week 5 to 7

The two acts with the lowest amount of phone in votes will take place in a sing-off and face the judges votes.

Week 8 to 10

No judges votes.
The act with the lowest number of votes will be eliminated from the competition.

The Final

The act with the most votes will be declared the winner.

Where's that from squares?

If it's official then someone send it betfair and we could get some more markets up.

XF Updates

Semi official then.

First time poster, but been following the X Factor threads for a few years now (a big fan of Figgy and George!).

Good posts from Jack and Squares - I'm not sure whether the bounce will apply to Katie this year or not.  At least she polarises opinion and is memorable.  Likewise Wagner, unfortunately.  But both could be vulnerable in a double elimination.

For the first out this week though I'd go for someone who is dull and anonymous - like Paije or John - or for the group jinx to continue for Belle Amie and Diva Feva.

Of course it'll all come down to the running order, but my guess is that they'll try to keep the front two in the elimination betting in as they're still good for column inches...

Dizzy

Good points.  Welcome to the forum. (If only I were!) (wink)

looks like a reincarnation to me.

Like a fine wine, you're an acquired taste Lou, but the forum would be a poorer place without you!

Yeah, I reckon Jesus, if he likes me

Squares - hope to become a regular poster this year...  Only just got round to the KYC nonsense after several seasons of being an avid follower of the forum.  Great source of info on songs, running order etc - and for good natured banter of course!

Welcome Lou mk6, cough ahem I mean Dizzy [;)]

Dizzy

Kind words.  Thanks I do my best.