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Benjy
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My ideas of the winners to be honest.

Without trying to sound too gay... Not sure they have done them any favours with the makeover though.

Espicially the one in the middle who can actually sing.

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Report attitude adjuster November 6, 2010 5:57 PM GMT
one direction

as in going above 4s Cool
Report crab patties November 6, 2010 5:58 PM GMT
NO COMMENT[;)]
Report Cider November 6, 2010 5:59 PM GMT
gOne Direction?
Report crab patties November 6, 2010 6:05 PM GMT
4thShocked
Report onthehushhush November 6, 2010 8:37 PM GMT
pimp slot tonight
Report Cider November 6, 2010 9:47 PM GMT
Big slide
Report One footed pony November 6, 2010 10:01 PM GMT
They're five boys who sing kareaoki songs. Am I missing something here ?
Report Benjy November 6, 2010 10:03 PM GMT
Still being held up. Too early to make the move just yet.


I fvcking hope anyway... Silly
Report Benjy November 7, 2010 9:08 PM GMT
Boy band week next week. Get back on the train... 

Westlife, JLS, Take That and The New Beatles all on one stage. Shocked
Report charliebigpotatoes November 7, 2010 9:58 PM GMT
Boy Band Week may expose their lameness vs the rare Boy Bands that ever made it more than anything.

They may not make the final.

If they do they are going to be in double digits given the popularity of Matt and Rebecca.

I would say we'll be looking at double digits after next weekend.
Report Benjy November 7, 2010 10:03 PM GMT
tbh I agree this is going the wrong way. I think after the show finishes though we might see that they actually topped the vote for the first 2/3 weeks.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 7, 2010 10:04 PM GMT
Really don't think they are great whatsoever.  Wouldn't be at all surprised if they only last another 3/4 weeks.
Report Cider November 7, 2010 10:04 PM GMT
Mary topped week 1.
Report GeorgeBrush November 7, 2010 10:05 PM GMT
Seeing as Mary topped week 1, this seems unlikely
Report Benjy November 8, 2010 12:50 PM GMT
Ok the 2nd and 3rd week. [;)]
Report GeorgeBrush November 8, 2010 1:39 PM GMT
I reckon they are comparatively struggling

He's quite happy for Matt and Becca to appear in duff slots, but not 1D
Report charliebigpotatoes November 8, 2010 2:37 PM GMT
I just got the full info/data package from ICM. Granted there are no children being surveyed but here's the info;

Fieldwork dates: 3rd – 5th November 2010
Interview Method: Online
Population effectively sampled: All adults aged 18+
Sampling Method: ICM interviewed a random sample of Great Britain adults aged 18+ from its demographically representative online panel Sample size: 2,005
Data Weighting: Data have been weighted by age, gender, socio-economic status, work status, household composition, ethnicity and region to the profile of all adults

Here's One Direction.

If you were going to vote for an act on the X Factor this weekend, which one of the following acts would you vote for?

Total Male Female 18-24 25-34 35-44 45-54 55-64 65+
  2%   2%    3%     3%    4%    2%    3%    1%   1%
Report squares November 10, 2010 11:12 AM GMT
2.15 Naas No 11 !!
Report stu November 10, 2010 12:05 PM GMT
What are the stats for the other acts though charlie?
Report One footed pony November 13, 2010 12:01 AM GMT
'X' = silly little boys pretending to sing.
Report Alkeyhole November 13, 2010 8:36 PM GMT
I've topped up at 6.0.  Still think they are absolutely nailed on for the final & will trade much much lower.

Don't really like their song tonight.  If they do a decent job they could come right in.  If not I'm betting them some more!
Report One footed pony November 13, 2010 8:51 PM GMT
That's what it's all about Alkeyhole, making £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££'s Well done.
Report Benjy November 13, 2010 9:37 PM GMT
Love Back in the game imo.

Harry getting more vocals as a few of us suggested they would do as well. Smart move to leave them open for late improvement.
Report onthehushhush November 13, 2010 9:38 PM GMT
certain finalists. I'd pay out on Matt+Rebecca+OD as the final three now.
Report layprofessional November 13, 2010 9:47 PM GMT
they r carp
Report Benjy November 13, 2010 9:51 PM GMT
layprofessional as shrewd as ever.
Report layprofessional November 13, 2010 9:51 PM GMT
jmho
Report layprofessional November 13, 2010 9:51 PM GMT
4th at best
Report layprofessional November 13, 2010 9:51 PM GMT
ditch the asian and irish and they r ok
Report Mikeeey November 13, 2010 9:53 PM GMT
Cowell thinks they will win but he doesn't know their names
Report layprofessional November 13, 2010 9:53 PM GMT
lol
Report hemsby November 13, 2010 10:00 PM GMT
By: hemsby When: 11 Oct 10 21:21 Just read this thread . I have to watch this on a Sat/Sun evening as my wife and kids are big fans....OK I guess I don't have to but in order to make it more bearable I like to place a bet  on my idea of the winner.
In my opinion all these type of programmes ie X Factor,the Andrew Lloyd Webber stuff,etc are all edited to attempt to make the voting public choose "the chosen one" therefore the skill is working out who it is.
IMO the poster nearest the truth is Nikki...Cowell chooses all 16 acts,some intentionally useless to make the others look better.
His only concern is who will make him the most money....and I feel the most marketable out of all the acts is this boyband.Personally I think they are useless,however the way previous shows introduced all the members individually,(the part where the asian lad throws a paddy about being unable to dance springs to mind) and the throw away comments like "you guys were not good enough individually to get in the solo catorgeries" is all designed to make them more likeable.
I agree that they will be a slow burner with a few power ballads sang bt the 2 strongest singers in the later shows.
Good luck everyone with your bets and views.......my bet has been placed


I think the big push has started.Harry had been held back until tonight ....according to my wife and daughter,he is the "cute one" and I wouldn't be surprised to see him feature in every performance from here on in.Personally I still think they are useless,but I still think they are the most likely winners.
Report LendUsAFiver November 13, 2010 10:00 PM GMT
Lay them now and wait for the bounce imho :)
Report layprofessional November 14, 2010 8:42 AM GMT
ditch the irish lad[looks like a young louis]and ditch the asian looking lad maybe half a chance;take away the big production behind them and they r terrible imho;
Report DeSSieReborn November 14, 2010 10:00 AM GMT
Their best yet. But to be really honest what went before wasn't great.
Report LendUsAFiver November 14, 2010 11:15 AM GMT
Maybe a mid-week bounce on this one, they are still the same odds as last night :(
Report Cider November 15, 2010 11:10 AM GMT
Cowell 7-2 winning mentor with slybet
Report five leaves left November 15, 2010 11:26 AM GMT
Cheers cider.

It's gone now. They're still 3/1 which is bigger than on here though
Report A1 Bionic November 15, 2010 12:08 PM GMT
Seems a bit ominous to me that Cowell has had to ramp them to the max, Push Harry to the fore and give them the pimp slot all in 1 week. Possibly the reason why they have ditched the double evictions too.

Obviously gets the kiddy vote but kids dont decide this show.

I doubt they are getting too many votes
Report layprofessional November 15, 2010 12:14 PM GMT
dont be fooled no chance of winning
Report A1 Bionic November 15, 2010 12:18 PM GMT
After their best effort this week Survation have them on 4.9%  Laugh
Report five leaves left November 15, 2010 12:20 PM GMT
Any link to that A1?
Report A1 Bionic November 15, 2010 12:31 PM GMT
Apologies for the lateness of this results message this week. Various things occurred that interfered with our usual processes.

Please also note that we are not capturing certain groups with these surveys - so don't be surprised if Wagner (for example) if not in the bottom 2 this week again!).

Unweighted data, 208 email responses.

If you watched The Show, Who was your favourite act on Saturday?

Katie Waissel ----1.4%   
Cher Lloyd ------10.1%   
One Direction----13.0%   
Wagner------------0.5%   
Paije Richardson--1.4%   
Aiden Grimshaw----1.4%   
Matt Cardle------39.1%   
Mary Byrne--------1.4%   
Rebecca Ferguson-30.9%   

Who is now your personal favourite among all remaining contenders?
   
Katie Waissel----3.4%   
Cher Lloyd-------6.8%   
One Direction----4.9%   
Wagner-----------0.5%   
Paije Richardson-2.4%
Aiden Grimshaw---5.4%   
Matt Cardle-----45.4%   
Mary Byrne-------2.4%   
Rebecca Ferguson-28.8%   

If the final 2 were Matt Cardle and Rebecca Ferguson, who would you prefer to see WIN the X Factor?
   
Matt----63.9%   
Rebecca-36.1%   



not sure if the link would work fll, was an email
Report Benjy November 15, 2010 12:41 PM GMT
Lay Professional, FO if you are not actually going to contribute anything and just say the same crap all the time.

A1, they didn't actually get the pimp slot did they? And it's fair to assume their voters (predominantly young girls) aren't going to take part in an email survey, no? 208 isn't a great sample to read anything into about the others either.
Report Angela Rebecchi November 15, 2010 12:45 PM GMT
[:x]
Report A1 Bionic November 15, 2010 12:48 PM GMT
My appologies Benjy, no they didnt

But they have been in the last 2 in the order in the last 3 shows, I doubt they would have them slots if they were doing well in the voting

As for survation, i agree young grls are not really survations highest % of responders but young girls are also not really the demographic that decide these type of shows.

For me 1direction are one of the worst prices I have ever seen on a specials market
Report alfie46 November 15, 2010 12:50 PM GMT
they do say on one of their emails that they are not capturing certain groups in these polls, i would imagine the under 18 group is one of them,
although it is still useful information
Report five leaves left November 15, 2010 12:56 PM GMT
Cheers A1.

I've also noticed that the link to their poll is posted in the Matt appreciation thread on DS. So it possibly overstates his vote.
Report Angela Rebecchi November 15, 2010 12:56 PM GMT
Problem is One D's main demographic is going to be the Under 18s. My little sister and her friends spend a 5er a week on voting these guys, she says every girl in her school votes for them. I suspect most schools up and down this country follow suit. IF they were to be pimped in the final with Take That, I'd be amazed if they didn't win. Harry and Robbie side to side, and it won't only be the Under 18s voting in their masses.
Report five leaves left November 15, 2010 12:58 PM GMT
Much like Lloyd then.
Report Mikeeey November 15, 2010 1:01 PM GMT
Robbie and Harry side by side - can't be any worse than Robbie and Olly I suppose
Report Angela Rebecchi November 15, 2010 1:01 PM GMT
Shocked
Report Benjy November 15, 2010 1:01 PM GMT
A1, agree they have been noticably late on in a lot shows. Will be earlier next week I imagine, although being Cowells only act also helps them be not too early.

I'm still dreaming of Beiber joining them in the final. [;)]
Report A1 Bionic November 15, 2010 1:06 PM GMT
I think Beiber is on this saturday
Report A1 Bionic November 15, 2010 1:11 PM GMT
Seems to me that Cowell is doing all he can just to keep them in the competition

Getting them to the final will be good enough imo
Report Benjy November 24, 2010 8:42 PM GMT
Need to show they can actually sing this weekend. Being crap for two songs is probably more noticeable than one. Silly
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 24, 2010 11:39 PM GMT
Benjy

They've been very very average every week for me and bar the little girlie vote shouldn't still be in it IMO.
Report Benjy November 25, 2010 1:25 AM GMT
You are somebody who's opinion initially dictates their book and then their book takes over their opinion though. You have convinced yourself who you like and dislike and refuse to change your mind whatever happens. I have no personal favourites but these lads are my biggest green. They have had their fair share of shockers (who hasn't this series?) but they also have had a couple of good ones. They also clearly should still be there, as there has been far far worse every week.
Report DeSSieReborn November 25, 2010 9:49 AM GMT
SHOCKING group they are getting worse.
Report topgun123 November 25, 2010 9:56 AM GMT
agreed they are terrible but its amazing what tecgnology can do to make them sound good;westlife are best examples of that see them live and they were shocking
Report Henry VIII November 25, 2010 9:59 AM GMT
I think they're actually getting better, better harmonies every week, but none of them are strong individually, still a mile from Matt and Rebecca and I can't see them ever appealing to the average voter.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 25, 2010 10:12 AM GMT
Benjy

I'm really not trying to deliberately go with my book.  I'm happy that I've backed Matt of course and justifiably so but IMO I would have rated One D no better than about halfway in the whole initial field.  For instance IMO John, TreyC, Aiden and Paije were all better than them for a start.
Report topgun123 November 25, 2010 10:19 AM GMT
lou get it in to your thick head COWELL DECIDE WHO GOES NOT YOU OR ME DO YOU UNDERSTAND I REPEAT GET THAT INTO YOUR THICK HEAD
Report topgun123 November 25, 2010 10:20 AM GMT
doesnt matter what you or rest think is better COWELL DECIDES OMG SURELY YOU ARE NOT THAT STUPID
Report topgun123 November 25, 2010 10:20 AM GMT
one direction are rubbish but cowell is keeping them in
Report Henry VIII November 25, 2010 10:23 AM GMT
Topgun assuming they don't mess with the votes it's the public who decide. Massive manipulation by Cowell of course which could effect the outcome, but the public have the final say.
Report topgun123 November 25, 2010 10:31 AM GMT
sorry henry i dont buy into that theory;whrn official and untampered percentages are given out im might start believing the public decide;mindst you suppose htf could joe;leon and shayne ward win?
Report Henry VIII November 25, 2010 10:43 AM GMT
Only bet on it last year. Joe winning was in line with all indicators including a yougov poll taken at the semi-final stage.
Report topgun123 November 25, 2010 10:45 AM GMT
henry tis all about opinions but imo more notes in marys tesco till than in joes mouth
Report LendUsAFiver November 25, 2010 2:04 PM GMT
nickname going around for them at the moment is wand erection :(
Report A1 Bionic November 25, 2010 2:15 PM GMT
Have you been away for a few months Tut? Happy
Report LendUsAFiver November 25, 2010 2:19 PM GMT
bah, was I slow on that one? nothing ever changes ;)
Report Benjy November 25, 2010 4:58 PM GMT
topgun sounds a moron. The votes obviously aren't tampered ffs.
Report RMB © November 25, 2010 6:11 PM GMT
Apart from Torn and the week before last they've been horrific.
Report stringerbell November 25, 2010 6:50 PM GMT
benjy dont lose any sleep over topgun - he has the mental faculties of a 12 year old. he was caught yesterday congratulating himself under the same moniker - lay professional, the twallock who spends hours posting things like 'CANT YOU SEE REBECCA IS THE CHOSEN ONE YOU FOOOLS' and 'ANYONE CAN SEE MADDY MCCANN'S PARENTS ARE GUILTY'. lay prof, topgun and pmbets are all the same sad person trying desperately to get himself out of a nasty situation with his rebecca bet by ramping her to the nth degree. his latest about votes being tampered is just another in a long litany of completely moronic outbursts. complete cretin. and he is in the industry....
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B November 25, 2010 7:42 PM GMT
nick

hear hear!
Report topgun123 November 26, 2010 9:35 AM GMT
i am in the industry nick and u if u have the b alls will turn up on here when rebecca wins and say to me topgun 123 i bow to ur superior information and knowledge;nick u r a t w a t of the highest order and i pray for u if u really believe the portugese 2 had no involvement in the crime;BLIND
Report topgun123 November 26, 2010 9:36 AM GMT
and for anyone who believes the votes arnt tampered;ask urself does barney curley run horses for punters
Report topgun123 November 26, 2010 9:36 AM GMT
alot of sad naive people in the world on here
Report Benjy November 26, 2010 1:13 PM GMT
What has Barney Curley got to do with anything Laugh

And what do you do in the 'industry'?
Report Benjy November 28, 2010 11:24 PM GMT
Still going [;)]
Report Benjy December 6, 2010 11:01 AM GMT
And into the final...
Report Benjy December 6, 2010 11:23 AM GMT
I know I'm the only one who posts in here but... will the Irish vote for Mary be transferred to 1D via the little blonde lad?
Report Mikeeey December 6, 2010 11:57 AM GMT
they've as good as won now, Cowell already telling his chums to bet big money on them winning
Report Journeyman December 6, 2010 12:02 PM GMT
I thought they were p1ss poor on Saturday, their version of Chasing Cars sounding like a bad joke straight after Amazing Grace.

Yet their core support held up enough to keep them safe above Cher and also the highly ramped Mary.

So they are obviously contenders.
Report LOU MACARIS TARTAN B December 6, 2010 12:07 PM GMT
Journey

I don't think they're particularly poor just not good whatsoever.  5 nice young kids, a couple who sing quite well the others making up the numbers.  No harmonies, dance routines that other boy/girl bands have.  I just think they're very very average and forgetting Matt surely Rebecca's far better.

Bar the pro voting of the young teenage girls I think they'd have been out weeks ago.  You can't discount the young girls voting though obviously of of which there will be many but when they count them up they get more than Matt?  I don't think so myself but we'll see.
Report A1 Bionic December 6, 2010 12:07 PM GMT
An hour long JLS special right before saturdays show

And then we listen to 1D  Laugh
Report Journeyman December 6, 2010 12:31 PM GMT
As a neutral observer of the top 3 [;)] it's interesting seeing the Rebecca and Matt backers are telling each other it's a 2 horse race etc.
One Direction are saying all the right things, smiling at the right times. They are unburdened by talent but that might not stop them.

While Rebecca is playing the 'game' well (playing it safe, taking no risks, acting servile etc) she isn't playing it as well as 1D.
Her constant backbiting and whining in the press could be her undoing in the battle to be the most inoffensive candidate.

One Direction have mastered the art of papering over their innate crapness with positive energy and they don't deserve to be considered a sideshow to a 2 horse race.
Report RMB © December 6, 2010 2:26 PM GMT
Considering the rampers and colluders are calling it a 2 horse race, they're are an insanely short price. Maybe the said posters are bu**sh**** again (a1, fll, GB etc).
Report Benjy December 6, 2010 7:56 PM GMT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_Du6u4c_q4

This is actually pretty good and I would like to see them do it in the final. Hopefully they are rehearsing it for that reason. Goes a decent way to proving they don't mime as well imo.
Report layprofessional December 6, 2010 8:50 PM GMT
benjy get a life course they mime u fool
Report Benjy December 6, 2010 10:30 PM GMT
layprofessional, nobody gives a **** what you think. Thanks.
Report layprofessional December 7, 2010 6:40 AM GMT
benjy u clueless t wat;if mentored bt anyone else they would og gone weeks ago;ill spell it out for u;WITHOUT BACKING SINGERS AND PRODUCTION AND NOT FORGETTING MIMING THEY R FCKING CARP
Report layprofessional December 7, 2010 6:42 AM GMT
u say the votes arnt tampered with benjy;no cowell just changed rules in semi finals cos cher was bottom;COP ON AND WAKE UP
Report Benjy December 7, 2010 12:44 PM GMT
So you are admitting you were wrong about that then?

Serious question, how do people like you actually survive in the real world? You come across as such a complete **** on a betting forum, I really wouldn't like to think what you're like in real life. I guess you never leave the house, just in case. Or maybe you actually have a slight mental illness?
Report layprofessional December 7, 2010 12:47 PM GMT
do u spend 2 months in the canaries every year;i do my friend
Report layprofessional December 7, 2010 12:47 PM GMT
make it clear for u ref other question;u r the one thats seriously ill if u think this comp is run straight
Report Benjy December 7, 2010 12:52 PM GMT
I can only assume you are about 12 and go on holiday to the Canaries with your parents. Have fun next year little man. [;)]
Report hemsby December 11, 2010 9:13 PM GMT
Nick...I still think they are the chosen ones [;)]
Report Benjy December 11, 2010 9:29 PM GMT
We have made it to finals night. Love

Torn tomorrow, please.
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