All i see is a player who seems to be walking a hell of alot around the pitch , somebody who passes an easy ball 90% of the time - now and again he will deliver a 70 yard ball only for the receiver to be surrounded by opponents within no time . Where are these defence splitting passes that ' world greats ' do ?
Ive watched the game twice and cannot see anything more than average from him .
Yes I can explain for you He is English and our media like to build up characters for the purpose of filling hours of talking time or column inches We simply dont have a class player in England so the media creates one I wouldnt care but he cant even talk properly
Yes I can explain for youHe is English and our media like to build up characters for the purpose of filling hours of talking time or column inches We simply dont have a class player in England so the media creates oneI wouldnt care but he cant even t
Here is my simple definition of World Class. If you were selecting a squad of 22 players from the world a player can be considered world class by you if you would select him in that 22. So if there were to be say 8 midfield players in your 22 man squad Gerrard would have to be one of the best 8 midfield players in the world. If you think he is then your objectivity gene, if there is one, is faulty.
Here is my simple definition of World Class. If you were selecting a squad of 22 players from the world a player can be considered world class by you if you would select him in that 22. So if there were to be say 8 midfield players in your 22 man squ
Name one person that's ever said he's world class ! I have certainly never heard anyone say that at least not recently. End of thread because your obviously another Jock,Paddy or Liverpool hater just wanting to sound off.
Name one person that's ever said he's world class ! I have certainly never heard anyone say that at least not recently.End of thread because your obviously another Jock,Paddy or Liverpool hater just wanting to sound off.
For all the grief that Rooney is getting from the other night, Gerrard should be getting that 10 fold.....he was pretty much ANONYMOUS from first to last....he couldn't even be bothered to make an effort to appeal for the penalty shout.
For all the grief that Rooney is getting from the other night, Gerrard should be getting that 10 fold.....he was pretty much ANONYMOUS from first to last....he couldn't even be bothered to make an effort to appeal for the penalty shout.
Lets get real,how many England players would get in a world eleven? NONE. Years back,Charlton,Moore,Banks,Gascoigne(at his best)perhaps Lineker. Cant think of many others.
Lets get real,how many England players would get in a world eleven?NONE.Years back,Charlton,Moore,Banks,Gascoigne(at his best)perhaps Lineker.Cant think of many others.
He was world class at his best. He is now in the latter stage of a great career and has understandably taken a deeper role to prolong his career. He has shown tremendous loyalty and has won the champions league at the club he loves. I'd have thought he's make the all time premier top team. His honours include two FA Cups, three League Cups, two Community Shields, one Champions League, one UEFA Cup, and two Super Cups.
He was world class at his best. He is now in the latter stage of a great career and has understandably taken a deeper role to prolong his career.He has shown tremendous loyalty and has won the champions league at the club he loves. I'd have thought h
and even at his best, he never did anything much for england, not alone mind you....and was brilliant for england.......arguable about the all time prem eleven......scholes keane and viera off the top of my head would all get in before him.
and even at his best, he never did anything much for england, not alone mind you....and was brilliant for england.......arguable about the all time prem eleven......scholes keane and viera off the top of my head would all get in before him.
Goes missing in all the top games - and has never done it for england .
walks about now too much for my liking - the most over rated player ever
He has never been world class . FACT .Goes missing in all the top games - and has never done it for england .walks about now too much for my liking - the most over rated player ever
A potentially great player in his pomp playing for England but sadly misued by stupid coaches like Eriksson who insisted on playing Lampard alongside him, which never worked (Lampard should have been dropped), and then Capello shoved Gerrard on the left which patently isn't Gerrard's position.
Gerrard should have been given free rein as an attacking central midfielder in his pomp, Lampard should have been nowhere near the team, and Owen Hargreaves should have been tasked with the holding role in centre mid.
A potentially great player in his pomp playing for England but sadly misued by stupid coaches like Eriksson who insisted on playing Lampard alongside him, which never worked (Lampard should have been dropped), and then Capello shoved Gerrard on the l
he has to sit in front of the back 4 so the centre-halves can protect him - this leaves the centre of midfield woefully short and means our forwards players run around like headless chickens chasing long passes. should have been left out a long time ago.
he has to sit in front of the back 4 so the centre-halves can protect him - this leaves the centre of midfield woefully short and means our forwards players run around like headless chickens chasing long passes. should have been left out a long time
well said johnnyrant should've had the team built around him,but was played here there and everywhere just to accommodate inferior players.
lmfao most privelaged accomadated player ever if u want to see messed around see scholes ffs
well said johnnyrant should've had the team built around him,but was played here there and everywhere just to accommodate inferior players.lmfao most privelaged accomadated player ever if u want to see messed around see scholes ffs
Only thing he's achieved here is to inform his club that he's well past his sell by date, no premier title for you son your either going to be advised to retire or shipped out to some b*m club.
Only thing he's achieved here is to inform his club that he's well past his sell by date, no premier title for you son your either going to be advised to retire or shipped out to some b*m club.
Overrated in my opinion. Has not made any contribution in years. Lampard has been a consistently better player and scored considerably more goals. By far and away the worse entry in the 100 caps club for England.
Overrated in my opinion. Has not made any contribution in years. Lampard has been a consistently better player and scored considerably more goals. By far and away the worse entry in the 100 caps club for England.
His best years were under Benitez who was the only manager who knew what to do with him, play him wide right or behind Torres but a centre midfielder he isn't.
His best years were under Benitez who was the only manager who knew what to do with him, play him wide right or behind Torres but a centre midfielder he isn't.
Many harsh comments imo. He has been among the best players in the premier league for a number of years, which is one of the most competitive leagues in the world. He has been an outstanding player.
Many harsh comments imo. He has been among the best players in the premier league for a number of years, which is one of the most competitive leagues in the world. He has been an outstanding player.
For Liverpool, he's been outstanding, for England useless. However he has never ever been World Class or anywhere near it. Gerrard does no more, than what any other good player can do. World Class players can do something, few others can do, with Ronaldo, Messi and Saurez, the stand out players at the moment.
For Liverpool, he's been outstanding, for England useless. However he has never ever been World Class or anywhere near it. Gerrard does no more, than what any other good player can do. World Class players can do something, few others can do, with Ron
And as for English World Class players, well I agree, with the above poster on this, Moore, Banks and Gascoigne were totally World Class, Charlton was an exceptional player and Lineker was a great forward.
Bobby Moore had so much time on the ball and read the game superbly. Gordon Banks, well there are no goalkeepers anywhere near his quality around any more and two saves he made will live in my memory, one from Pele header, when he no right to get anywhere near it and a penalty save from Geoff Hurst in a League cup semi-final, against Stoke.
Paul Gasgoigne - a shame he couldn't handle the fame. A magic players, who was capable of nearly anything.
And as for English World Class players, well I agree, with the above poster on this, Moore, Banks and Gascoigne were totally World Class, Charlton was an exceptional player and Lineker was a great forward. Bobby Moore had so much time on the ball and
I can't recall anyone (outside of Liverpool) that thinks Gerrard is world class.
He has been a good servant for LFC and England, but nowhere near world class.
I can't recall anyone (outside of Liverpool) that thinks Gerrard is world class.He has been a good servant for LFC and England, but nowhere near world class.
england have not had world class players since, charlton,moore.banks and gascoigne(at his best)
I think Ashley Cole has been a world class left back for a long time.
england have not had world class players since, charlton,moore.banks and gascoigne(at his best)I think Ashley Cole has been a world class left back for a long time.
You're right, and he still looked a world-class left-back this season when selected. Which does beg the question, what was that limited journeyman doing wearing his shirt for the last couple of weeks?
Rio Ferdinand was also a world-class central defender, despite being a Grade A berk.
You're right, and he still looked a world-class left-back this season when selected. Which does beg the question, what was that limited journeyman doing wearing his shirt for the last couple of weeks?Rio Ferdinand was also a world-class central defen
Here is the knock on stevie g Semi final of the European cup 2005 at the bridge Gerrard giving the ball away for fun Best player on the park was xabi alonso. Kept lfc in the game. The basque boy was different class. Let's face facts Stevie g's best game was in Istanbul where he chased up and down the left wing after Harry kewell got crocked. Yet he refused to play in his best position Gave Scholes an excuse to retire from international football It's abundatly clear to me now That England's first choice this past decade ought to have included joe cole and carrick Had those two not been ruined at Chelsea and Man U Playing long ball football At champions league level at any rate Had they stayed at west ham Maybe with frank as an attacking midfielder Things may have been different for dear old ingerlund Ah well Fluck em
Here is the knock on stevie gSemi final of the European cup 2005 at the bridgeGerrard giving the ball away for funBest player on the park was xabi alonso. Kept lfc in the game. The basque boy was different class.Let's face factsStevie g's best game w