World Cup 2014
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When in the history of football or sport for that manner, has a champion team been given less credit, less respect or less fear??
This team has run the board when it has come to International football, one world championship, and two European championships.
The ageing factor isn't relevant, not in a 7 game tournament. Its relevant in club football when your expected to play a 50-60 season but not here.
All their stars always play their best football when wearing the national strip.
Last year after Dortmund - Munich champions league final, everyone was saying that Germany was looking good for the World Cup given they boasted the best two teams in Europe. This year after the all Madrid final and Sevilla winning the Europa Cup, and considering that the La Liga was the most competitive league in Europe, surely Spain should be the most feared team at this years World Cup.
Ask yourself, which team would you be angriest at yourself if they won without you having a dollar on them. It would have to be Spain, what more evidence do you need see that Spain
Should be able to get 8's soon I believe. And what a price that would be about on of the greatest football teams of all time.
This team has run the board when it has come to International football, one world championship, and two European championships.
The ageing factor isn't relevant, not in a 7 game tournament. Its relevant in club football when your expected to play a 50-60 season but not here.
All their stars always play their best football when wearing the national strip.
Last year after Dortmund - Munich champions league final, everyone was saying that Germany was looking good for the World Cup given they boasted the best two teams in Europe. This year after the all Madrid final and Sevilla winning the Europa Cup, and considering that the La Liga was the most competitive league in Europe, surely Spain should be the most feared team at this years World Cup.
Ask yourself, which team would you be angriest at yourself if they won without you having a dollar on them. It would have to be Spain, what more evidence do you need see that Spain
Should be able to get 8's soon I believe. And what a price that would be about on of the greatest football teams of all time.
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I would argue the age factor is more relevant in this 7 game tournament than over the course of a season. During the season you can rotate the squad, everyone gets injuries so most are rested regardless and you can manage appearances to keep your best 11 primed for the bigger matches. Here, and especially in their group, they have 7 matches in a month, against absolute A grade competition, in a hot climate away from home and all this coming at the end of the gruelling season which you refer to.
Ripping chance all the same. Squad depth a massive plus for them. |
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Here, and especially in their group, they have 7 matches in a month, against [i]absolute A grade competition[/i]
Theres only 4 or 5 teams in the World Cup who I'd fancy to do well in the latter stages of the Champions League. Bet365 refunding if a team goes out on penalties. A shadow of the 2008 side but still a decent bet at 13/2 imo |
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Spain must have a huge chance
Lets face it the world cup is dogsh!te Most of the teams have been hastily cobbled together through a turgid qualification process, most teams have no recognisable identity Its easy to see the ones who have. Brazil, Germany, Spain. Just look at africa Fly me Imagine you are Etoo or Droggers one of the great names of european football in the last decade you go back home only to be greeted by some jumped up corrupt Fifa bureaucrat togged up like eddie murphy in trading places (apols if that sounds a bit racist) He says there's no money for you and your team mates while he swans about in a 5 star hotel in rio riding a fifa stretch limo Its very hard to have much sympathy for millionaire footballers these days but this carry on takes the biscuit 32 teams in the world cup is way too much 16 was about right If i were gregory **** I would fluck FIFA right off Offer Brazil, Arg, Germany etc all the past winners plus maybe the dutch and the asian and african champions $100m to come and play in a rival tournament They'd make billions off tv and sponshorhips And at least the damn thing would be over in a month |
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very well put sheikh mansour |
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thelatarps that was funny. Not considering Argentina though?
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Funny
Yeah sorry Bit of a sesh on Saturday All I wanted to do yesterday was come on the forum and talk sh1te Argentina to me have a great forward line but the problem with forwards is you have to get the ball to them And I am not sure that messi is the best at tracking back Which means the midfield and defence will have to be stellar Which clearly they are not 4 year ago they looked breath taking in the group stage but had no answer to Germany Same thing in the copa one year later Do not think much has changed to be honest. |
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NICE come on Holland
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loving this
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This is a gubbing
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 Here come the aftertimers. Has this ever happened before? |
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Spain out!!!
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Great to watch. nice tipping from the R.Post again - collectively writing off the Dutch & advising backing them not to get out of the group
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fcuk you Knight Rider
no aftertiming here, look in the thread and you will see I put up Spain as a maximum lay |
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Betfair forum as civilised as ever |
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you know youre fooked when you come knocking on Torres door for a goal......
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wasn't torres the top scorer in the euro's?
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Torres has been stealing a living for 3 years now hasn't he? Can't even deal with an open goal.
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torres won the golden boot at the euro's didn't he?
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no idea - how do you rate his contribution for his salary the last 3 years?
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I wouldn't let Torres mind me cat. He'd fook that up too....
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Am I correct in thinking Spain vs Chile qualification could come to whether or not Spain can score enough goals against six in the last game?
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Six = Oz
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Could do Zazu. Quite possibly not, though. If Chile and Spain draw, and then the Netherlands beat Chile in the final game, it would come down to goal difference. (Assuming Spain beat the Aussies...)
If Chile beat Spain, it's essentially all over. If Spain beat Chile, Chile will probably have to beat the Netherlands and then finish ahead on goal difference... A draw wouldn't be enough for them. |
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Innietsa and Xavi too old now
Spain different team |
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Ramos is not - and never will be - a central defender.
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Spain lost first game of the last tournament and won, obviously not in the same manner, still wouldn't rule them out, 13.5 - that's a little too high, interesting that brazil went out from 3.85 to 4.2 after that, potential 2nd Rd match with Spain now,
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If Spain beat Chile and the Netherlands run riot against Oz... Chile would probably be playing a second string, already qualified Dutch team
LordBobbin 13 Jun 14 23:46 Could do Zazu. Quite possibly not, though. If Chile and Spain draw, and then the Netherlands beat Chile in the final game, it would come down to goal difference. (Assuming Spain beat the Aussies...) If Chile beat Spain, it's essentially all over. If Spain beat Chile, Chile will probably have to beat the Netherlands and then finish ahead on goal difference... A draw wouldn't be enough for them. |
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java i'm sure you know full well that torres won the golden boot at the 2012 euro's. i think that proves that he's capable of scoring goals against any side anywhere.
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Am I correct in thinking its still possible for Spain to win the group .
Assuming that both Holland and Spain beat Australia. Spain would need to beat Chile and hope that Chile beat Holland, then all 3 teams would have 6 pts and it would come down to goal diff I think its highly unlikely though |
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Bardo: trying to convince yourself to take 14.0 in the outright?
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Spain about 25 to win the group - a shade over evens to qualify. 4.2 for the quarters (which broadly assumes beating Brazil in R2)
It's last night's goal difference that makes it so hard - losing 1-0 to Switzerland is very different to losing 5-1 to a major group rival. Holland's permutation to qualify is largely to beat Australia. Chile didn't look great to me, but their tempo might catch the Spanish cold. Chile would be delighted with a draw, which would make qualification extremely difficult for Spain. In short three massive games to get yourself to Quarters, and then another three massive games to win it. |
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Spain will need to score a lot of goals and win their last 2 games convincingly. But to be fair I can see them doing exactly that. Winning the group is out of their own hands at the moment. Holland would have to slip up badly and that doesn't look likely. Having said that it's football, therefore anything can happen.
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Spain just need to beat Chile.
They will rip Oz to shreds and could easily score 7 or 8 |
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True, but I can see them beating Chile by quite a few goals also, but you're right as long as they win the game. Playing a (by then) thoroughly demoralized Australia last is a big help. I doubt the Aussies will have the will or the ability to stop Spain getting the goals they need.
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or holland thrash australia to all but clinch the group, play the reserves against chile, lose 1-0 accidently on purpose then spain could need to win 8-0 to go through. thats even if theyve beat chile the game before.
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I love a good conspiracy theory, in the same way I enjoy a good work of fiction. It won't happen bob.
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or holland draw against australia get beat by chile and fail to qualify
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