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bushy
13 Jul 10 19:10
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Spain 9/2 (Cor, SJ) looks far too big.  Their qualifying group is Czech Rep, Scotland, Lithuania, Liechtenstein.

The only thing against them, paradoxically, is being seeded at the finals.  I assume Poland & Ukraine will be seeded and the other seed will probably be Holland or Germany.  So being seeded costs you the chance of drawing what are likely to be 2 of the weaker sides in the tournament, and only helps you avoid 1 strong side.

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By:
LB1982
When: 13 Jul 10 22:10
For starters your money is tied up for two years on a 9/2 shot and i doubt they will be shorter when the tournament kicks off.They could end up with key injuries an injury to Villa in this tournament would have ended their chances.They will also have a tougher group than they did in this tournament and will be up against countries in better form than this time round
By:
bushy
When: 14 Jul 10 00:38
I think they could well go off at 3/1 or shorter, depending on who else qualifies.  We shall see.
By:
liveitlarge
When: 14 Jul 10 00:41
boylesport are offering 33-1 for spain to win euro 2012 world cup 2014 temptingGrin
By:
MRGRUMPY1
When: 14 Jul 10 10:57
^ Suppose that means England are 12/1 to do the same[;)]
By:
tanstaafl
When: 14 Jul 10 12:20
Honestly, that is a shocking tip.
By:
liveitlarge
When: 14 Jul 10 22:49
why is that shocking have you actuually watched spain play
By:
tobermory
When: 14 Jul 10 22:58
5/2 would be the price if they played it tommorow.

Hard to see much changing dramatically in 2 years.
By:
tanstaafl
When: 14 Jul 10 23:49
liveitlarge     14 Jul 10 00:41 
boylesport are offering 33-1 for spain to win euro 2012 world cup 2014 tempting


Even worse.
By:
shrewdbury
When: 15 Jul 10 15:00
Awful awful bet with 2 years to wait, ffs...
By:
neill d
When: 15 Jul 10 15:36
It is not an awkul bet they will piss it. Germany and Holland the only foreseeable challengers and Spain are open to as much improvement as anyone with the fantastic way they that their young players are schooled.
By:
MRGRUMPY1
When: 15 Jul 10 15:59
^ You say they will piss it, then next breath give 2 teams who will challenge them.
By:
TommyTheTurk
When: 15 Jul 10 18:09
Belgium
By:
johnnyrant
When: 15 Jul 10 22:00
Copa America in Argentina to look forward to first - taking place July 2011. I enjoyed watching the likes of Uruguay, Chile and Paraguay at this WC. Love the team spirit and passion for playing for their country players from these nations exude. Not to mention their technique and quality on the ball. Throw Brazil, Mexico and the hosts into the mix and it should be a cracking tournament.
By:
liveitlarge
When: 15 Jul 10 22:44
neil d is right its worth doing the the **** bet cause if spain win euro 2012 you you can lay them at a much shorter price here to win in 2014[;)][;)]
By:
shrewdbury
When: 16 Jul 10 10:19
Its awful because you should factor in giving your money away for two years...of course.
By:
neill d
When: 16 Jul 10 14:52
Spain are already ahead McGrumpy,and are open to at least as much improvement as the rest,therefore I don't see the rest bridging the gap,get it.
By:
shrewdbury
When: 16 Jul 10 14:53
I'd want at least 20/1 to bother tying up my funds for two years. And even then it would have to be a stonking 20/1 bet.
By:
neill d
When: 16 Jul 10 14:55
They will trade shorter than 9/2 come tourmnament time, look at it as a savings account if you must. I could see them being 9/4 at the off. We all saw how ordinary the Dutch were and the Germans are being overhyped, they beat an Argentinian team with no midfield or defence and an English side who are technichally inept.
By:
supersavo
When: 16 Jul 10 15:49
I backed spain months before the WC, just putting 5 ers and 10 ers on every few days, thinking of doing same for euros.
By:
shrewdbury
When: 16 Jul 10 18:07
Yeh, a savings account where they could end up taking money off you! Laugh
By:
zeru
When: 18 Jul 10 00:28
World will end in 2011 so don't waste your money Happy.
By:
neill d
When: 18 Jul 10 19:11
Obvious such a response would come, They will trade shorter shrewbury, probably after they tank the Czechs
By:
liveitlarge
When: 18 Jul 10 22:10
i get the impression  shrewdbury layed spain at the world cup an is still seethingLaughLaughLaugh
By:
johnnyrant
When: 19 Jul 10 09:12
can I get a bet on that, zeru - imagine you might get decent odds...
By:
shrewdbury
When: 19 Jul 10 09:52
I backed Spain among others liveitlarge.
By:
shrewdbury
When: 19 Jul 10 09:53
...to guarantee a profit incidentally, after I'd had Holland and Uraguay. Cool
By:
bushy
When: 19 Jul 10 14:07
I'd want at least 20/1 to bother tying up my funds for two years

The tying-up-funds argument is purely dependent on your own personal wealth and cashflow.  If you have lots of money available for "investment" then (a portfolio of) long-term value bets isn't such a bad option - say you might be able to return 7% over 2 years elsewhere then you need to discount the odds you are receiving accordingly - 9/2 becomes more like 4.14/1.  If the bet's still value, take it.

Are you seriously saying you wouldn't take 10/1 on Spain 2012, shrewdbury?
By:
shrewdbury
When: 20 Jul 10 18:18
Obviously the bigger a price gets the more tempting it would become. But I'd have to consider how much you could turn over in other bets in all that time with the same funds.
By:
bushy
When: 20 Jul 10 22:15
Because you're such a consistent winner?  In which case sparing a bit of your substantial bankroll on a long-term value selection surely wouldn't be a problem?
By:
shrewdbury
When: 20 Jul 10 23:14
Well if you were talking a small bet then yes it isn't that much of a problem, but if a bet's 'great' then it can't really be a small bet. Hence it isn't a 'great' bet, especially at the price.
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