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Had five euro on spain/villa at 14/1. Got back 18.75. So basically got worse odds than if i had of backed spain outright. I think spain outright where 4/1 at the start. Thats a disgrace. Only small money but feel sorry for those who had a few quid on.
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I had 18/1 with WH and they've offered 6/1 as a payout.
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6/1 seems fair. I had the bet with **** and knew they would settle that way. Jokers.
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how did they "offer" 6-1, do you mean in a local bookie or via the net?
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Basically spoilsports paid out at 2.75/1 on spain/villa when spain it think to win the tournament outright where 4/1. Total joke.
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That sounds atrocious - surely you could query that, even with IBAS etc, though not really worth it for a small stake.
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It would have to surely equate to at least the price for Spain win??
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my bet has yet to be settled, waiting with interest
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I put £2 on Villa to be op goalscorer and Spain to win aswell last week at 7/1 or 8/1, anyway I checked my statement and I have been paid 10p for it? Can someone please explain this?!lol! Also I bet on Spain to win, £20 on and apparently I lost!? Either Betfair have made a mistake or they offer a very misleading bet on the football main page!!
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With five goals each, four players including David Villa tied as top goalscorer in the World Cup so we had to settle that market as a four-way dead-heat. This has led to some confusion as to how to settle the Top Goalscorer/Tournament winner market.
It didn’t seem fair to enforce the dead-heat rule because many of the bets on Villa/Spain would have actually resulted in customers’ bets being a shorter price than Spain were to just win the tournament at the time. So we’ve taken the decision to settle the market according to table below which results in every bet returning higher winnings. For example: If you placed £10 on Villa/Spain at 18/1 your settlement with this method will be £70.Enforcing a 4-way dead heat rule (Your stake is divided by the total number of players tied and then paid at the full odds), your bet would have been settled as £47.50. Here is the table explaining how we will settle your bet but please accept our apologies as this is being completed manually and should be done by the end of today. hills message via net |
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Razzer I work it out you should have got £1.50 for your Villa/Spain bet, and probably your £20 on spain was in 90mins?!
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there as no table available for me to view tho
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But it was only a 4-way dead heat for half of the bet, the other side should be a full win.
I think they are being very sly with that, and I haven't bet on that market either. |
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shrewdbury Joined: 25 Sep 09
Replies: 3205 12 Jul 10 13:21 But it was only a 4-way dead heat for half of the bet, the other side should be a full win. You are fishing I presume? |
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Very very sly!! Thats what i thought clyde_conn! But only got paid 10p so I have sent an email! I also think its a bit of a joke when on the main page it says Spain to win or Holland to win, no mention of 90 minutes, you pick who you think will win, it comes in and you lose!makes me laugh.
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have you checked what matched and at what price, also have you checked the individual bet or are you looking at the overall mkt settlement figure if you had other bets in the same mkt
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elsie - local bookie phoned HO to query the bet, they came up with 6/1. Agreed on the spoilsports payout. Jokers :(
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im looking at individual bets.:/
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cheers dickie, i found the message in my hills account when i logged in having seen your first post
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for thr record, hills have settled and have paid more than i calculated the bet to be worth
think they have been very fair |
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Lol muggins bet all the way.
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from info i have garnered, the state of play is.....
Hills and Fredbet - settled at new odds reflected by dead heat of goalscorer market (Quite Fair) 3 6 5, slybet, lads, spoils and PP paid at 1/4 the stake for double (Unfair - joke) no info on koral, Sids, vic or nanny |
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Lol of course it should be paid at 1/4.
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bookies making up random rules now to appease mug punters? who'd have thunk it
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I had £10 on at 14/1 with Korals. Tonight they offered me £35 which I flatly refused. Have spoken with their Customer Service and await their reply with interest.
Personally I would have thought 7/1 or thereabouts fair for the combined as if I had asked for a bet of "Spain to win and Villa to be one of the top 4 scores" I would have expected between 6/1 and 8/1 as the best are related I'm really flipping angry at their initial offer. Outrageous |
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£35 plus your £2.50 stake is correct. stop beng a crybaby, and stop backing mug bets at muggier prices.
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Is this thread genuine? Do people really think that the following doubles should all be paid in full? Spain/Mueller, Spain/Forlan, Spain/Sneijder, Spain/Villa? I guess it must be a wind up......
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No they should not be paid out in full. But to pay 2.75/1 on the double is so wrong. How can spain/villa be 2.75/1 when spain to win outright was 4/1. Makes no sense. About 6/1-7/1 would be fair. You cant pay the double at less than the odds the single was in fairness.
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You have backed the double @ 14-1, if Spain were 4-1 you are taking 2-1 Villa in the double, on the basis that if Spain win it Villa will have played 7 games etc. If you back a 2-1 winner in a DH of 4, that is a losing selection (effectively -1 to 4) and will reduce the value of the other selection. On that basis you can't expect to get paid at 4-1.
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So baz what your saying i should get worse odds than what the single should have been. I dont agree with that. I do agree it should not be 14/1 thats obvious. But surely its a double. The single is 4/1 that won. I didnt back an each way double. So one part of the double is up. The other is a four way dead heat. My double as i said cant be settled less than the single. It was but thats wrong. Even taking the bookies rules into account its wrong.
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Just for eg, if you back a double of 4-1 (winner) and evs and the even money chance dead heats with 3 other selections, would you still expect the double to pay at least 4-1? Naturally it wouldn't, it's a case of what price you consider Villa in the double. If the Villa/Spain double were 25-1, you would be paid at 11-2 (bigger than the 4-1 Spain were).
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this is all bull - by the minge bags bookies - I took 20's for the double with hills ans they're now offering 7's. how do they work yhis con price out - villa 8's & spain 4's in the first place is a 44/1 double and they more than half it in the 1st place (i know the one affects the other and all that) and then dont even quote spain/forlan, spin/muller etc and then proceed to 1/3 their minge bag price further - its out of order at the very least i should be on for £1125 at the least for a ton stake ie £100 on 4/1 then a 1/4 of my stake on villa @ 8's but they come up with this obscure 7/1 price - i'm going all the way with this one to IBAS
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^^^^^ had to lol at this one :-)
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Spain/Villa at 14/1? What an awful, awful bet.
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get your head round how the nanny are settling the bet.
divide the price taken for the double by the price of spain to give a reduced price for the top goalscorer. the stake will then be divided by the number of dead heats involved [4] then multiplied by the reduced top goalscorer price multiplied by the actual price of spain. simples. |
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PMSL at this thread, not sure who are the biggest mugs, punters wanting paying out at full prices or Hills for not settling at 1/4 odds!!
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some sharp minds on here.
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IMO BF settled it correctly.
all this of it eing 2 bets etc is rubbish when it comes to exchange betting. I took 1 price on Villa/Spain and if dead heated expected to get 1 quater of my stake at the odds i took. low and behold i did! Corbiewood - lol so true |
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All this poxy abuse on here is alod of bolllixx. People saying taking 14/1 on villa/spain is a mug bet etc etc. Look all i said at the start of the thread was it seems wrong that a bet on a double pays less than the single when the fukkking single has come up. If i had bet spain from the start i would have got more from doing spain/villa. To me that seems wrong. I never said it should be full odds. But i think it should be more than the price of spain. Thats all.
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Spain/Villa at 14/1? What an awful, awful bet. Maybe the price was a bit thin but it won or should i say jointly won. So to say it was an awful bet shows what a complete tosspot some people are on here.
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