Spain World Cup 14/1

italy LMAO, and also argies were awful in qualifying

If only real bookies were so generous...

id take england/netherlands/spain/france over these 4.

90% chance- i love betfair

Sunset any chance of giving me 14/1 on spain.

what a sad man big bucks john is. and why would sunset want to lay 14/1 when he thinks that's the price? do any of you understand betting?

I'm a sad man for letting people know about some good value on offer? What a mug!

spains record in the world cup is as follows.

in the last 80 years 1st = nil

2nd = nil

3rd = nil

4th = 1

maybe sunsets odds are not that far out.

Why has Spain not winning the world cup before got anything to do with their chances this year please?

Big Bucks John 09 Apr 15:37


Why has Spain not winning the world cup before got anything to do with their chances this year please

Do past results mean anything to you?Past results should be used as a guide to the future.The future is not usually identical to the past , but it's the best guide we have.As for their being different players this time . You could say that about the last 80 years. Different players same results. Played 18 won nil. Never back a team to do something it has never done.

Sunset Cristo 10 Apr 00:26


Big Bucks John 09 Apr 15:37


Why has Spain not winning the world cup before got anything to do with their chances this year please

Do past results mean anything to you?Past results should be used as a guide to the future.The future is not usually identical to the past , but it's the best guide we have.As for their being different players this time . You could say that about the last 80 years. Different players same results. Played 18 won nil. Never back a team to do something it has never done.


Tony McCoy has never won the National before. Must mean he's never going to.....oh, hang on......

I can read very well thank you. And personally I don't think Spain will win it. I think it will be Brazil. But not because of what has or hasn't happened over the last 80 years. Just because I think the Brazil side would beat the Spanish one.

france have home advantage 2010

sunset cristo



so your saying brazil/argentina/italy/germany win this thing 9/10 (90%) times. Is this a joke or are you really slow. You cannot possibly understand value if you believe this to be true- u dumbfound me.

You go by stats of 15 previous world cups- this is just history. It is COINCIDENCE that this tournament has been dominated by certain teams. Though these certain teams had their heydeys and 'glory years', with strong crops of players which gave them their success.

u cant gather strong patterns and correllation from only 15wcs (guarantee if you were looking at 1000 wcs -stats would be different

Things change with time. Brazil as usual look a decent proposition and their squad looks refreshed. Though it has to be said France and germany are past their peak. The Spain squad has strength and depth running all the way thru it/ players at their prime and with added confidence of euro cup under their belt, they remind me of the france squad 10 years ago.--justified favs with brazil

also netherlands/ england on their day will beat anyone

both imperious in their qualifying

If anyone wants to give me 14-1 for Spain I will gratefully and very happily take it, and some!!
Spain won Euro 08, so now know what it takes to win a major trophy. And I beileve Spain will win World Cup 2010. I've backed them at 4-1, and when you consider England are 5-1, that's a very good price.

the lay preacher 14 Apr 22:21


spain have under achieved in almost every tournament they have ever played in this one will be no different.
i wouldnt back them with counterfit.
add to that there best striker torres has virtually no chance of lasting
out the tournament as he is themost injury prone player on the planet.
4/1 yeravinalaff.

Spot on.BBJ will of course ignore this.

so your saying brazil/argentina/italy/germany win this thing 9/10 (90%) times. Is this a joke or are you really slow. You cannot possibly understand value if you believe this to be true- u dumbfound me.




If you had bothered to read my posts you would know that I have revised this to 85%.Why are you dumbfounded you have presented no facts, logic or anything else to refute me. All you have done is asserted your baseless opinion.
How do you price up the competition and why?


You go by stats of 15 previous world cups- this is just history.




Just history. What do you base your opinions on then. Do you you have a Crystal ball or a Tardis? In my experience history is the best guise we have to the future coupled with common sense.Fortunately common sense is not very common amongst gamblers as has been demonstrated by bbj and his ilk.




It is COINCIDENCE that this tournament has been dominated by certain teams.




So you say.Prove it? This is just your opinion backed up by nill facts.Typical.



Though these certain teams had their heydeys and 'glory years', with strong crops of players which gave them their success.




Oh so Holland, Spain and England haven't had a strong crop of players. As I keep saying you are obviously ignorant about Holland 74.You will of course ignore this.




u cant gather strong patterns and correllation from only 15wcs (guarantee if you were looking at 1000 wcs -stats would be different





You are forgetting that from those 15 World Cups there were hundreds of teams and only 4 have won when not playing at Home.



Things change with time.





Very little has changed in the last 80 years. Argentina have replaced Uruguay as the other strong South American contender. Thats about it.



Brazil as usual look a decent proposition and their squad looks refreshed. Though it has to be said France and germany are past their peak.



Will you never learn I've heard it all before.In recent years people have continually written the Germans off.In the last two World Cups it was said the Germans are only average. The Germans are past their best. May I remind you they finished runner and and third in the last two World Cups.The usual suspects. Do some research for crying out loud.
France I agree with.



The Spain squad has strength and depth running all the way thru it/ players at their prime and with added confidence of euro cup under their belt, they remind me of the france squad 10 years ago.--justified favs with brazil





Big difference France were had home advantage.Also it was 12 years ago France won the World Cup not 10.it may come as a surprise to you that Spain won the Euro Cup in 1964. Did they win the World Cup in 66 . No. it was England with home advantage . Another coincidence according to you.I'll go with the so called coincidences until they stop happening thank you very much. Worked in the last 2 World Cups. Who did you back? Did you make the last 2 World Cups pay?


also netherlands/ england on their day will beat anyone




This is true, but I think you will find that a team had to perform consistently will over a period of 4 weeks and not just the period of one day or one match. This is what England and Holland have consistently failed to do in previous World Cup under different managers and different players.It's not rocket science.




both imperious in their qualifying





Have you actually done any research that suggests that because a team qualifies well that means in has a good chance in the World? Cup or is this just another baseless assumption?

Big Bucks John 15 Apr 01:36


Sorry one man team Spain have no chance LMAO!

You say they haven't done much in big tournaments well the last big tournament they were in they won, what more do you want from this current team?! You 2 are right mugs

You are comparing apples and oranges. The euro cup and the World Cup are totally different competitions. You will of course ignore this fact. I have told you twice now what the record is of euro winners going in to the World Cup. You will of course ignore this fact. You are the mug my friend because you ignore the inconvenient facts. This is a sure way to the knackers Yard.Successful punters are able to correctly evaluate the price of of a team winning with out letting emotion or prejudice get in the way. This is why you have to look at the facts. ALL of the facts not just what has happened over The last 2 years.

Well all those that don't fancy Spain to win the World Cup please keep laying them and then those of us that do fancy Spain can get a bigger price on them lifting the World Cup.

Then we will see who is in our out of pocket come when the Word Cup ends.

I also bet based on what I've seen, rather than what I'm told.

And from what I've see Spain look worthy fav's and the team to beat in South Africa.

if people on here seriously dont think the results of the past world cups really mean nothing.. and i have to say some of the fools on here seem to think that

ask yourself why certain countries ALWAYS perform at this stage/tournament. regardless of stars or who is playing.. the germans and italians esp in the last decade.. and dont expect this world cup to be much different and dont expect the germans or argies to be far away