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29 Mar 10
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England? PMSL
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So you don't think they can realistically win it?
I don't think we will but if the team got together and played at their peak then would stand a realistic chance imo. |
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Got to be against them at the prices...
They have a... Goalkeeper who is championship class at best a right back who can't defend for toffee a left back who looks like he's won a play for England competition a centre back who gets repeatedly skinned every time he's confronted with a pacy forward another centre back who is permanently injured ....need I go on??? |
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I'm sure only 1 can realistically win it. ;-)
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I agree they are underpriced but they do have a realistic chance of winning, don't buy your argument about the centre backs, Terry and Ferdinand are as good as any other centre back combination going to the world cup. Ashley cole however much I hate him is a good left back. Admittedly Glen Johnson is weak defensively but going forward he is very useful. Goalkeeper situation is obviously a bit of a worry...
The biggest negative I don't think you've picked up on though is the form of Steven Gerrard this season and it is a bit owrrying that we are making way to accomodate him into our team when he isn't even playing that well. But to say we realistically CAN'T win it is going to far imo. |
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spain,netherlands,brazil poss argentina but i doubt it. What i would say is that one of the african nations could have a chance. Especially the Ivory coast if Drogba plays well.
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I think it will be a long while until an African team wins it tbh. Ivory Coast are underpriced as well imo.
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I just get a feeling that an african nation will do well. Take Korea in 2002 no one expected them to do that.
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Yeah exactly with Korea noone expected it and they were massive price. and managed by a world class manager but with the Ivory Coast for some crazy reason people seem to be expecting them to do well when there is no real evidence to back up that they will...
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And Korea was the host country.
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Chile imo
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argentina
brazil spain (nap) |
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Opening post forgot Italy and Germany. Why list the teams you would like to win?
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agree kincsem...u usually get a run for your money on germany and italy...proven tournament teams
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Short memories of the last World Cup debacle by England.
A 1-0 win over Paraguay (3rd minute own goal). A 2-0 win over Trinidad & Tobago (83, 90+1 mins) a 2-2 draw with Sweden. Round of 16: A 1-0 win over Ecuador (Beckham free 60 mins) Quarter-finals: A 0-0 draw with Portugal, then a 1-3 loss on penalties, Lampard; Gerrard; Carragher miss Rooney gets a red card. ................................................................................ The present team is arguably not as good, and the main men, Lampard and Gerrard will be aged 32 and 30. Many of the squad probables are injured. The only player who might be better is Rooney, but can he transfer league form to the World Cup, and get the supply he gets at club level? He failed to score against weak teams in the last World Cup. Terry looks horribly suspect to pace, and a dribbling forward who runs at him. |
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I think the correct answer to the OP is 32, isn't it?
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kincsem 29 Mar 19:01
Opening post forgot Italy and Germany. Why list the teams you would like to win? Italy and Germany are not the force they once were, good teams but nothing more than good, same with France. All could do alright but can't realistically see any of them winning it (If any Italy, but not by playing good football) And johnny to claim any of the 32 teams could realistically win it is stupid (I emphasise the word realistically because you seem to struggle to have got that part) |
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Would anyone who said that "reallistically" Greece could win the Euro Championships (at 100-1) also have been "stupid" please ?:|
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South koreo should never of got as far as they did. Bad refereeing decisions and they were one of the host teams.
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Brazil Italy Germany Argentina I will be surprised if any one else wins.These are the 4 most consistent teams with proven winning ability. |
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Greece winning the European championship is completely different from winning the world cup.The World cup has historically been alot easier to predict. When was the last time an outsider won the World cup?
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Clarky and big bucks. Form is not enough. Time and again Spain have proved they are not good enough. Might do it this time, but they are not a good price.As some one has already said don't forget Argentina in the last world Cup and also Holland in 74.Probably the best team, but didn't win.
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chop180 30 Mar 01:33
Would anyone who said that "reallistically" Greece could win the Euro Championships (at 100-1) also have been "stupid" please 1) World Cup easier to predict 2) Freak result - didn't play well just defended well. |
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holland couldnt win it when they had the best players on the planet they aint gonna win it now.
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argentina or brazil .
i would make england the most likely after those two. but they are going to have to break the trend since the world cup began that no european team has EVER won it outside their own continent. |
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ravage 29 Mar 17:20
spain,netherlands,brazil poss argentina but i doubt it. What i would say is that one of the african nations could have a chance. Especially the Ivory coast if Drogba plays well. If I had a big enough bank to tie money up for a couple of months, I would lay Ivory coast for every penny that is up for grabs at around 30's. If Ivory coast win the world cup I will swim the Arctic ocean with a penguin on my back |
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the ivory coast players among others were complaining about the heat
in that last tournament . i know it is going to be winter in south africa when the world cup is played but does anyone have any idea what the temperature is likely to be then. |
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the lay preacher 30 Mar 11:54
the ivory coast players among others were complaining about the heat in that last tournament . i know it is going to be winter in south africa when the world cup is played but does anyone have any idea what the temperature is likely to be then. I'm going over and have been told to expect similar to a mild summer here. |
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As I understand it the venues in the north will be hotter than those in the south. About 25 degrees.
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Spain couldn't win it in 1982 when they had home advantage so I doubt they will do it now.
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The European Championship is completely different from the World Cup. Throws up freak results like Denmark and Greece. Denmark didn't even qualify. They only got in because Yugoslavia didn't play because the Balkans started fighting again.
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Only one team has ever won outside it's own continent. That is Brazil.The world cup is probably the easiest sporting event to predict. It has been for the last 50+ years anyway.
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Sunset Cristo
Welcome to the forum. Its nice to read posts from someone who takes a balanced view and is realistic, not nationalistic. Someone above wrote off Germany. What have those losers done recently? - 3rd in the 2006 World Cup (beaten in the semi-final in the last couple of minutes of extra time) and losing finalists 1-0 to Spain in Euro 2008. What have third favourites England done? ..... I just saw some tumbleweed rolling through .... |
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Fortunately many bet with their hearts and have short memory's otherwise others wouldn't make it pay.I will be laying England. If they win it will be the first time that I will be happy with a losing bet.
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I dont think the outside their own continent will come into this much as surely no African team will win this one. Argentina also won outside their own continent when they won it in Mexico
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brazil argentina serbia |
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I backed Serbia in 2006 ....... Argentina 6-0 Serbia.
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only argentina and brazil have ever won the world cup ouside their own continent . europeans have never in the history of the tournament ever done this .
there a wee clue to the eventual winners for you. |