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eightbo
10 Apr 19 01:36
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...in comparison with UK Racing?

The other day a long way back 4th place finisher called a "Riders Objection" on the clear winner for some minor scuffle which happened on the turn which surprised me greatly.

The result didn't get changed on that occasion but it got me wondering:
1) Do the results get reversed for much less in the states?
...If you've backed the winner in that scenario and the result were to change;
2) Would back bets on the 1st become VOID or would they become losing bets?
3) Would the 4th place become 3rd?

As always thanks for any help.
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Report jamee1 April 11, 2019 12:23 AM BST
In US racing it is different to UK (and much of the rest of the world).

In UK racing a horse will be demoted by the stewards if it's deemed to have prevented another horse from winning. In the US if a horse is deemed to have unfairly impacted the finishing position of any other horse in the race then it will be "disqualified" (actually demoted) to the position behind the horse it impacted.

Therefore in your example, if the stewards had allowed the objection then the 2nd would have been upgraded to 1st, the 3rd upgraded to 2nd, the 4th to 3rd and the winning horse demoted to 4th. The 2nd horse would have been paid out on the winner, and the original 1st horse would be a loser.

This is why many people will lay their horse at the end of the race at 1.02-ish as an insurance against it getting demoted.
Report eightbo April 12, 2019 1:02 AM BST
Perfect. Makes sense now thank you Happy
Report Darlo Bantam April 16, 2019 10:02 PM BST
I've no figures, but certainly seems to happen a fair bit. As explained neatly above it's a different system hence what appears to be a more likelihood of it happening.
Report jamee1 April 18, 2019 12:23 AM BST
It took me a while and some heavy rule reading to work it out. You'll be glad to know that there are minor wording variances between different US Racing authorities also, which add just a little more complication to the whole thing :)
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