Dont bother with US racing today on the exchange.

ONCE AGAIN TODAY RACES CLOSED BEFORE YOU CAN LOOK AT THE HORSES LOAD!!

They worry more about closing races early than fixing Preqsquile, starts 2 hours earlier than usual. of course no money

The service needs investigating

the traders who are operating needs investigating

The worst today, the premium site working like a mickey mouse again closing races at there leisure before the races...

looks like it time to give it a swereve

Whoever is handling the US racing tonight is something else. Closing races with no care at all minutes before.

Races closed early. Last race at woodbine, 25 secs before post time! Good luck bettors on US racing, as the traders would say.

I am getting stuck with way to many bets. US races are closed always minutes before. best you get is 30 seconds to post. IF this continues im going to the commission to explain this mickey mouse crap betfair traders are doing. Getting bettors stuck in positions is not at all about a proper exchange. Its like closing the stock market at 3:30 and saying oh well ** everyone.

cant place a bet. site down? not a penny matched on the markets.

no thats a seperate problem

they usually just close the races early past while, no care for the integrity of a market. How about u have 1000 on a horse and he starts sweating, u cant get out, race is closed 1 minute before.

You'd think 0 matched race after race would twig something.Last one off this sinking ship GL.

And the traders keep closing races early. Real pricks.

they dont care about bettors.

4 min to post at mount    wake up betfair

Deleware Race 5 closed 5-1o minutes before post. Good work. The trader gets a golden star today. He got half the amount of normal liquidity matched...

Del5 horses were all loaded when the #7 broke through so all horses were pulled out of the gate & subsequently reloaded

I got my refund lol but punted early before the jump maybe a couple of minutes so missed when they shut before the first try at starting

seems to have been a little better to me these past few days .. hoping it continues

its not better at all, you got your refund? what do u mean?

There are a complete joke and they have guts to charge 6% commission

I got my refund cause my horse broke thru the gates and galloped off into the distance and was scratched from the race

So wtf does that have to do with them closing every race early!

Nothing. He was probably just checking whether the US Forum still had a pulse..

Can't believe not one daily racing thread has been started this entire week!

they are not closing early every race .. razor .. you are clearly not watching every race

I'm sorry the events you choose close before you decide to bet .. today they have been closing as expected .. saratoga 11 horse field suspends when the 10th horse was loaded

not sure what more you want .. have a bet earlier ffs 

current race .. saratoga R10 .. 15 horse field .. 14 laoded before market close

most recent race .. Pen2 ... 9 runners .. 8 load before market close

I agree the past month was awful ..

but it appears to me the complaints have been listened to .. at least in the last 3 days I have been watching

let's hope it continues

Thebas you are 100% working for Betfair. Woodbine i am live and every race is closed WAY before. You are clearly a worker for betfair Thebas. And this **** there doing ruins all integrity of the exchange.

They close races at there leisure and when there are many tracks they close it even earlier.

Yes sometimes you get lucky and it looks close to post time. I wish every race horses act up and you look even more stupid.

I wish every race horses act up and you look even more stupid.

your bitterness towards horses and other punters and only wanting to get the best deal for yourself at the loss to others says a lot

me working for BF

mate ring them and ask them where my pay cheques have been going then

I punt .. I work with the system offered .. and you are trying to destroy that system with your false accusations of every race closing early

I agree there are races that do ... and the past month has been a shocker for all trying to turn a quid

but ... get off your soap box .. things have been better the past week imo

whether that continues .. who knows lol

Thebas obviously has not been watching any races period

Either your work for them or your just a real idiot, i timed races all day, on average 47 seconds before the off. Saturday. prove me otherwise smart guy

your bitterness is becoming evil razor .. find a mirror

Well your stating things that are far from true. And how does it benefit me? Why should races be closed early?

CT1 ... 10 horses load .. market still open

you do realise the video is 2-5 on delay .. that can be half a furlong live

Why so the seeders can make call the money. LAD race 8? closed

explain that

what markets are you playing razor

and are you taking a single position on a horse based on your study of the race

are you trading .. backing & laying multiple horses in a race . and trying to get the best set on each ?

why have you not adjusted to the situation o the past month

and it has got better the past 4-5 days .... IMHO

Adjust to the situation. Races closed a minute before. Now i know your not worth another word. Have a nice day.

Its called gate behavior, exchanges are based on last second wagering

Why so the seeders can make call the money.

all video content around the world .. even live television .. not just our racing view ... undergoes a delay period of 2-7 seconds

I said your not worth my time after that last comment.

Its called gate behaviour

for goodness sake

someone is on each side of the position .. a backer or a layer

when something goes wrong with a fractious horse ... who is going to thake the opposing side to the bet you are trying to get rid of (in the seconds left before the jump) ??

your time it seems razor .. is not so precious by your own verbal standards

Why the **** do Betfair suspend a market before the off, so in the case of R3 at MP tonight, when a runner is scratched in the gate, you can no longer change your position. Absolute farce.

999 at finger....traded round 4 went 999 bfsp 19.....fav 3.5 went 1.02 bfsp 1.98

Absolutely awful management today.

Fort erie race 4... Looks good.

Race closed 5 mins and counting before post time. But don't complain anyone even though they are ruining your chances of winning at all costs.

Real **** ass hole working the exchange tonight

No betting today. Races closed well before. No ability to even handicap without the race being closed. I would suggest to smart bettors they use tote system as has been mentioned. Its a seeders market right now. They give two **** about bettors. If people cant see that.. I don't know what to say. They have no money, early suspension.

No betting today. Hey Thebas there improving. Race 4 at parx... Looks good race closed now 6 minutes before and counting. A scratch. No ability to bet. LOL. What a joke.

Once again. Today they are guessing a little better. But oops Louisiana race 3 closed 2 minutes before once again. Thousands lost in money that could have been matched.

Nope not going to trade today. Its a joke. Markets are being closed early. Go out and get some sun! Keep up the awful work Betfair!

Back tonight, even better races closed 5 minutes before. Come on guys why cant u bet 10 minutes before the race LMAO.

Come to bet today. Look how nice Delaware closed early again today. Nothing has changed.

Didn't PJs magical wink win at Monmouth??? There worried more about closing the races early than managing the tracks properly.

They have my bet down as a loss??

down as a winner for me, sure you didnt lay it by mistake

be nice if #3      Mack Miller is a winner

suspending when ever they feel like it tonight, shocking stuff at Monmouth, 5 mins before they jumped.

They are **** bastards. I say everyone should protest. this is gone on way to far with no **** explanation!!

losing interest is now everyone according to the obvious forum shill.

losing interest is now everyone is happy, according to the obvious forum shill.

Looks like the bastard came in today for Louissiana Race 1 and for the night. Good night than. Races closed early not my thing. Pretty soon im gonna quit if it continues.

Chalk up another horrendous performance tonight.

Races being suspended erratically and absurdly early at times.

Yes thanks for mentioning it, early suspension, **** sucker came in around 1630 time tonight.

Came in to look today to bet, nope closing It up. Mr smart guy is handling and closing races way early. Good luck

you're funny razor 

closing way too early

all the bets are on ... 2mins to 5mins has been the window the past 2 months with excellent value for backers

the seeders are offering nice value this morning as their bots creep out $6 to $9 etc

all the best with it

Horrendous pile up Louisiana race six. Anyone know how jockeys and horses are?

didn't see the race Roy

some of my fave jocks were in the race I notice

thoughts are with all of them and all the horse also

Thebas. It was dreadful. As you say, thoughts are most certainly with all concerned.

no update on the Caesar's palace site

but I see R9 that R Eramia, D Simington & G Mora have all been replaced ... no condition report on those jocks yet

I need to let people know the joke of the site this is

cant use a **** feed with all the money they make, that's what laughable! nothing else.

[i]Razor68
I need to let people know the joke of the site this is [/]


... really razor .. world poverty .. dislocated citizens ... fallen jockey & horses ... but you're upset with BF and your trading on it here

but if you need to continually slag off on betfair ... well I guess that's your right

the rest of us are just punting here I imagine

Bet on Bet Daq atleast they wait until horses load for **** sake. There not seeing my money this month. I made a couple bets up a lil, only nuts would bet into management like this with big money. **** them. Go to Bet daq

Looks like the **** sucker is in today. First race viewed at FL was closed before horses even loaded. Shut er down, to bad nice day to trade on an exchange. Lets open the other sites for today. Good luck **** sucker closing races early.

atta boy Razor .. move on ... and enjoy life again 

wtf was the jockey doing on drill sergent race 1 hawthorne

No fear as if it is a full time job, Pubis will be along any minute to correct the folks that have been here since turned brown.

Tell us all about the wonders of betting into illiquid markets without all possible information.

Really early today. shame no liquidity.

Save your money, bad betting today. Races closed very early. Don't bother.

**** really bad tonight. go home, don't bet, Penn race 1 closed super early.

they bet $2 about the good thing at that Pen race razor .. it started at $1.79

your bets should have been on between the 2min to 5 min mark

did you want to back the winner ?

.. and if so can I ask why did you wait until the market closed on you ?

early suspension at woodbine, and its begins again.

razor,  what live feed are you watching to determine that they are suspending too early ?

me thinks razors so called live feed is slow

me thinks betfair suspend using a feed which is far quicker than what is shown on betfair live video.

2 weeks ago I checked out the live video feed for keeneland versus the ATR pictures. keeneland was between 30-40 seconds faster on live video .

I think betfair have a faster feed for suspending markets for other tracks but can't show them at the moment on live video .

just have to look at the clock on the feed ..... some are running 2-3 minutes behind

Wait the race is closed already.. Must be a delayed feed of several minutes. But im live at the track, interesting, can u explain?

Is there a feed faster than live? because I would love to find it?

anyone?

apologies, I didn't realise you play from the tracks, that would explain your annoyance .

which tracks do you play from ?

is that allowed or even legal to do from the states ?!

nope

early suspension at woodbine, and its begins again.

Wait the race is closed already.. Must be a delayed feed of several minutes. But im live at the track, interesting, can u explain?


woodbine is in Canada ... enjoyed your trip over there Razor I hope   

hope you are not telling porkies

I called a guy at home to test and see if the race on betfair was closed as I visited a track. Is that allowed? And yes he told me BF closed the race already.

I usually bet from home with a somewhat slow feed, but its not 2 minutes slow, atleast I don't this so. Anyway not worth my time on this forum. Talk about your picks and horses whatever and make your money... Il get to the bottom of it or I wont. And il quit.

did you travel to the USA Razor  .. or Canada ?

if not .. then the feed they get at the local tracks will be the same feed I guess as we get here on BF (which is the same timelag as they provide thru ESPN internet - which I have tested)

the issue imo is the inconsistent closure timing ... no one knows just when it will happen

that is why I investigated for over 7 weeks to identify a time "zone" (2-5 mins) where it has proven more profitable than waiting till the jump/closure to get your bets on (not always of course as one drifted alarmingly late today so I ended up with a lower price than BSP - but still higher than the price I assessed the horse at prior to the race)

to suggest shutting up shop like you have done repeatedly for near 2 months now .. is defeatist alarmist & extremist imo

adjust or move on ... like you suggested you will do & which 12JH did to a "tote based op" where he says he gets rebates also

its a tough game the punt ...  so all the best to all