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TheFifthEmpire
12 Mar 15 18:14
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Will Rogers Downs is going to start the new throroughbred meet nex Monday (March 16) but this year the race track isn't going to be available on exchange, according to the USA racing schedule made by Betfair.

Moreover, Evangeline opens more or less within one month (April 8). And again, it seems to me that Evangeline isn't going to be available on exchange.

Last months, several race tracks have disappeared from exchange markets: Pimlico, Sunray, Gulfstream, Laurel, Indiana, Finger Lakes and Prairie Meadows are some examples. Beulah Park was closed to open Mahoning Valley, but the new race track is not available on Timeform USA or exchange.

Sportsbook is not the solution. Many punters do want to lay horses.

Please Betfair, give us an answer. Like many punters and traders, I want Will Rogers Downs and Evangeline available on exchange again.
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Report conkian March 12, 2015 7:55 PM GMT
really poor at the moment the fifth cant see it improving and that's a shame used to thrive on here and the forum did not any more, betfair don't give a **** about us racing imo
Report TheFifthEmpire March 12, 2015 8:45 PM GMT
Can't believe that Will Rogers Downs and Evangeline won't be here on exchange. Because of Mahoning Valley Mountaineer is in trouble, Suffolk was closed and Louisiana Downs is having problems. A slow death for USA horse racing on exchange.
Report Kriskin March 13, 2015 12:44 AM GMT
New meetings are required on here. As stated above alot of meetings have disappeared from here
Report TheFifthEmpire March 13, 2015 6:29 PM GMT
Atlantic City was also on exchange 2 years ago but not last year. Sad.

I guess that Fairmount was here until 2013.
Report RiskyBusiness March 13, 2015 7:14 PM GMT
US racing has been a low priority for years for BF, imo, though that is at odds with seemingly increased sponsorship in places, so maybe there is a hidden strategy.

It is a vicious circle. The fewer markets they offer, the fewer casual punters and fewer posters on the forum and it dies a slow death, thereby justifying them offering fewer tracks. it's a shame, as i love the laying potential of the exchanges that you don't get anywhere near so easily with tote betting.
Report TheFifthEmpire March 13, 2015 8:38 PM GMT
I know many people like me that work until 5pm. We want to place bets on horse racing but we can't follow uk horse racing. So we need USA horse racing to back and lay until 1am or 2am.

USA horse racing has an huge potential for punters. That's why I'm following  their races while some people are watching football and tennis. But I need exchange to make money, I don't know how to work with tote, where I can't lay horses or find good odds to dutch.

Betfair, give us a solution! More race tracks for USA horse racing, please!
Report RiskyBusiness March 13, 2015 10:30 PM GMT
at that time of night, i.e after 7pm uk time, they are taking £millions from football betting, most days of the week and i've become convinced that is partly why they don't bother with us racing. football betting has way overtaken racing betting amongst casual bettors in the uk in the last 10-20 years.
Report 12jhjehr March 14, 2015 6:03 PM GMT
U.S. Horse Racing days are numbered and yet Betfair takes over HRTV ???????   Why ??
Report Bsmith March 17, 2015 6:29 PM GMT
may have taken on HRTV for reasons nothing to do with horse racing
Report Wesdag March 17, 2015 8:12 PM GMT
Didn't BF say they were looking to introduce in running for US racing in the 2nd half of the year at the last Q&A session?
Report Bsmith March 17, 2015 10:02 PM GMT
cant see how they could realistically do in running betting for every race with the time difference, only winners would be betfair control room !
Report Wesdag March 18, 2015 4:10 PM GMT
Betfair Customer Services    28 Jan 15 16:41 
In the last Q&A, you said to "watch this space" regarding in-running betting on USA horse racing as the streams are much faster than they were in the past. Is there any update/news on this or any trials in the pipeline?
This is still very much in progress and, although we cannot commit to a go live date, we are confident that various improvements to our US racing offering will be made in the second half of 2015. As well as the potential to offer in-running on US races, we continue to investigate the possibility of extending the number of tracks offered on the Exchange. We’d welcome any suggestions of tracks you’d like us to consider.

Hopefully they mean what that say - at long last.

Could be huge if they manage to get this sorted out.
Report Wesdag March 18, 2015 4:16 PM GMT
*what they
Report Bsmith March 19, 2015 7:00 PM GMT
Confused have they actually said they going to do anything in this statement ?!
Report Wesdag March 19, 2015 7:20 PM GMT
We live in hope.
Report RiskyBusiness March 20, 2015 7:45 PM GMT
Indeed. We would like them to consider all the major tracks (in answer to the request for input on what tracks we'd like them to consider). Especially gulfstream that they can easily cover and used to, for starters.
Report TheFifthEmpire March 21, 2015 4:31 AM GMT
I've never seen Santa Anita, Golden Gates or Churchill Downs on exchange, but it would be amazing to have again Gulfstream, Laurel, Indiana, Finger Lakes, Sunray, Pimlico, Atlantic City, Prairie Meadows or Fairmount. We want more markets available on exchange on Monday, Tuesday and Thursday, the other days of the week are fine.

Last months we've had a few improvements, Lousiana quarter horse races available on exchange for the first time, and Sam Houston available on Friday and Saturday, I remember that last year SH was available only on Monday and Tuesday.

Don't forget that Suffolk was closed, maybe forever, and that Mountaineer is not ok, because of Mahoning Valley... Sad, Nancy is amazing.
Report TheFifthEmpire March 21, 2015 4:42 AM GMT
Two or three years ago I saw Remington Park and ThistleDown on exchange.
Report Boogie Cat March 22, 2015 10:25 AM GMT
i can remember santa and golden
Report conkian March 22, 2015 11:15 PM GMT
and me boogie all the so cal tracks were on here sadly missed Sad
Report Kriskin March 23, 2015 8:33 PM GMT
All Californian main tracks were on here at the begining.  We had Del Mar, Hollywood, Golden Gates, Santa Anita and some of the Fair Tracks as well.
Report Musik March 24, 2015 12:07 AM GMT
So miss the Californian tracks on here too. Shame
Report TheFifthEmpire April 13, 2015 2:25 AM BST
Will Rogers is back, Evangeline is back, thank you Betfair.

Guess that Suffolk is going to open again.
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