Thursday US Racing...........

6wins Thistle

wd lads

Dont like the Penn card so im hitting the sack , gn all

tricky at penn but up till 4.45am watching the nfl so breaking bro rules and playing sloppy conditions

looks a match in first race between 3 and 6 on surface form so dutching them both

3 and 6 penn win

Penn #4

Good evening everyone, best of luck to all playing tonight

wd pro with 3 in the first at Penn, very good price on here

cheers cork not bad not bad at all

Hows things bro asked if you are okay and still winning says he is looking forward to catching up with you and flight in the New Year

Penn race 2

the unexposed #3 for me here on the barn switch at around 13/8+, a lot of exposed donkeys in this field and hope she can either stalk or make all here in the slop. GL

How are you Tod? It's been a while.

pro, you mentioned your staying awake to watch nfl, cake walk for the cardinals?

tell him all ok thanks pro, discipline is still working though I have let the hounds slip, only play 1 or 2 mornings now, just don't have enough free time to do enough study for them, let him know he hasn't been forgotten, though the rate the posters are diappearing on here there might only be a handful of us left by the time he makes a return....!

yeah not too bad thanks spill, busy as ever, how you been?

I'm grand pal.  Gotta say I need a break from this.  After years of studying my brain is frazzeled.  I am contemplating taking some time off. (Trouble is I enjoy it too much)

Hope you are well and I wish you good luck with the 3.

Should be too strong I feel for St louis but no cake walk they have a strong D cards but always have a doubt betting them too heavy on the spreads

As for this next race in total agreement with MS this is a lump on the 3 at Penn

By my reckoning possibly has 3 / 4 lengths in hand on these will be up there early but doesnt need to dictate the pace is unexposed young ran a decent race last time

Cant see much to pressure him and it should be a large bowl of cheerios down the stretch for the others

3 big win Penn

Penn R2 thought the 3 had its chance last time and wouldn't want to get involved with it at tonights price, gone with 2/7/8, gl all

Layers really getting stuck into this favourite.

will be a good game no less. looking forward to it.

3 and 7

Am hitting it harder has nothing to fear from the outside horses on time ran a second quicker than the 7 and 8 am convinced this will possibly make all major disappointment if this gets beat

Am pretty convinced it wont mind come on 3

wd all the 3 backers

WELL DONE ALL

3 horse game at penn would have liked a price in running! didnt travel nicely at all

FWIW early on i think with the 7 scratched the #8 is a NAP next at Penn wire to wire and can see the price collapsing closer to post time

Never in a moments doubt for me by ghostzapper wont be a bridled horse from recollection he was a battler.

Like I said had 3/4 lengths in hand in my book and reckoned he nears as dammit won by that distance

can see it going off a sub 1/2 shot so at around 5/7 i will keep backing

with the 7 out 8 looks a lone speed here and should be able to make all, goes for an in form stable and handles the slop on the class drop GL

not seen any form on my card thats says it has won on thee slop ms

Agree though it should surely dictate this bunch from the front

apologies you said handles rather than won

Penn R3 case of finding most likely runner up to 8, I've gone with aptly named 1 (given todays news) and 5, gl all

3/5 if you could 100% guarantee that on the tote would be a spanish economy revival smash it all on centeno is different class to these the horse will get an uncontested lead

You check the form of the 2nd fav out and its slower than a snail at a mile

Problem is Pro that Centeno has been changed to Huber Villa Gomez!

lets hope Huber uses his brain for once and gets the horse relaxed

WELL DONE AGAIN

yeah 8 hacks wire to wire at penn as expected, even huber couldnt make this lose!

wd all the 8 backers

Holy sh1t now that was a miscalculation on the jockey front

Still would have cocked it leg on this field by further if it went quicker the 25.5 sec first quarter allowed the 6 to stay in range

wd ms

Guys - anyone ever hear from any of the following:

Rowan
StewartD
GM10

??????????

As my bro would say time for a bit of black eyed peas

Just the 6 more races to go now for perfection

Have seen a few posts from a few of them am sure i saw rowan post on the uk horse forum recently

Not sure about the others will ask bro he had a list of people he thought were half decent

Chas R1 one of those rare occasions when there is no obvious pace, most unusual for Chastown, so even with Erik the Great in the plate wouldn't want to be on the 3, gone small on 7/8, gl all

Kenners
Johnny Wadd
Mr X
They_


MS Dhoni
Tod


Seagram
Gov


spiller1
spiller


lucky
jas????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

I still keep in touch with Rowan and Stewart on various social media! they are both doing well just very busy with other things atm i think hence the lack of stateside punting!

not sure about GM didnt he re release his latekick website?

havent heard from jose mourinho in ages though which is a shame!

that man taught me a heck of a lot about this game!

Jose has been back a few times over the last couple of months.  Still has the nouse.

What about:

The Canadian
MarkeyPD
pulgita

Anyone heard from them?

I;m sure jose posted on here a couple of weeks back

Jas & Jose were and always will be in the betfair "hall of fame" in my opinion.

Both were legends on here.

Where is Flightspecialist?  (have't seen him for a while)

dutching 5,6,1 at penn win and place race 4 tricky race

Feel 5 in particular is a big price

flight is taking a sabbatical, needed to stay away completely for a while he said

Spiller think you are on a par with Jas easily both of you hit a lot of winners

Bro will be pleased he got a mention

Chas R1 res 3-2-6

Penn R4 thinking along the same lines as pro here, gone 1/5/10, gl all

ambition time thrown my 3 selections in combo forecasts and trifectas at penn 1,5,6

1/6/10 for me  (all small wins)

2 romps it

we can safely say that the front is the place to be tonight at Penn

damn it thought 2 would fade and 5 would pick it up

Thats a hell of a time that horse has put in on sloppyish conditions just pace pace pace tonight those early fractions he set should have meant he was toast up the straight

Kenners
Johnny Wadd
Mr X
They_


MS Dhoni
Tod


Seagram
Gov


spiller1
spiller


lucky
jas????????????????????????????????????????????????????????




So Y/N   (I have grouped together who is the same persons)   Is Jas actually Lucky31 now?????

dont forget spill!

Horts
Horts LT

Hahaha  How could I forget that.  He claimed "Horts_LT" was a fireman who was stalking him in Lithuania. 

Chas R2 the 7 is shorter than I had anticipated, backed 5 laid 7, gl all

Penn R5 very much with the 7 should be far too strong for this field

5/7/10/3 super at CT for me

heck of a lot of pace on here at ct

Fancy the 7 to be sitting off the back and sweeping through late on

big place bet the 7 with a reasonable win bet to hopefully pick off all the pace

wd pro

Major aftertiming here:

7/5/3 tri for £3     

spiller_AT

playing the 1a at Penn

Have a feeling 7 might do a zebeedi tonight off a very gd run last time

1a looks clear 2nd best and imo doesnt have an awful lot to find tonight

WD pro

wd pro, ride on 7 strange to say the least

Catch you all later.

See you 2moz.

Thanks guys was a bit strange were you expecting him to be up with the pace early cork

Have to admit he allowed 1a to steal a march and got going late

I think he would have got beat further tonight though if he had  gone from the front with all the other pace tonight but can understand why you might be shall we say puzzled

just think given the horses usual run style it was odd that he allowed the horse to drift back to last before deciding he needed to make an effort, never mind  nothing is going to change it now, onwards

5 has got a lot going for him tonight at penn decent place bet and decent win bet nice profiling

Penn R6 not keen on this race, small on pace 7/9/12 for an interest, gl all

taking a stab win and place on the 6 at CT dreadful race but he might have a decent chance up at 6.5f

wd pro, turning into a good night for you...!

v gd cork thanks 5/6 and a 2nd place at penn

Cork you were advised as to a solid system at penn. DONT BACK there not unless you are in .How many times do you see it .Forget about form at penn.

towf, quite happy to take the good with the bad, the Penn has been consistently good to me over a long period of time, so the occasional bad one is not going to phase me

Truly you would gain alot more success at looking at the jockeys going to post at penn as explained before.Whatever experience you may have had this is a proven way .

got a lot of love for the 6 at penn win and place tonight have had a saver on the fav the 5 horse

towf, with my eyes I'm lucky to see the horse, absolutely no chance of reading the jockeys movements...!

Towf Gov and Cork do really well at Penn and consistently make profits I accept you have some knowledge but they have some as well.

I have gone 5/6 there tonight and that isnt unknown either

wd pro 6/7 and flying high, that was a very confident ride from Whitney, knew he had 5 beat a long way out

vwd Pro

I was passing on vital experience from having been a jockey there.
No doubt there is some advantage in the study of the differences of different barns but trust me you will find it difficult to get a consistent angle on it because their horses are not allowed to run to form.Simple as that.

towf I respect what you have to say but people like cork and gov who is my brother have been winning there for years.

He has passed on traits to me angles that most of the punters on here wont look for am not saying he or I know as much as a jockey having said that though.

Just it works we have no inside knowledge just study and flair now 6/7.

not knocking you towf, sure what you say is true, but when you find a course that is profitable for you then it makes sense to stick with it, thats why my betting activity is limited as I only play Penn, Mount, Chas on a regular basis, not everybodys cup of tea but it works fine for me

Actually i am not going to be modest my brother is pure mustard at Penn nobody on here better than him i do think cork is his equal as he tips up the same horses

Well pro think about how cork does make a profit .Its because the hot favs do not preform and therefore the bigger priced horses win so it adds up to the same thing but not quite as if you are backing horses without form you will lose.So stick with cork if it works dont fix it.

you are to kind pro, we all agreed a long time ago that gov was the original number one and would always have that mantle as his strike rate was second to none there, I have no trouble being known as his apprentice, though I'm probably the oldest one around...!

Unfortunately, we have guests staying so I have to go and entertain (provide drinks...!), hopefully you'll improve your score further still pro, will check thread tomorrow to see, gl & gn all

Gn cork

going to try 2 and 5 at penn win and place tricky open race not massively confident  just feel tonight they might show up

Thanks towf

Cheers Cork

Trust me somebody decides who will not be winning at penn about 5 minutes before the off .

Like I say TOWF i am not disputing what you are saying but Penn is and has been v profitable

As punters we have no way of knowing

1, if what you are saying is true or not

2, Assuming it is true am happy to believe this, its likely to be going on elsewhere in th country.

3, From my perspective I look to always get the favs beat so if option 2 is correct it is more likely people will want to suggest a fav gets beat than an outsider. This will work to my advantage.

I realise from what you are saying you couldnt divulge your name but be great to find out who you are and how many winners you rode just curious. Did you ride anywhere other than Penn

Yes could not cope with the corruption there and as regard to how many winners in the us 78 .Overall my career will state that i rode 237 but they do not include alot of races.

As regards to the other questions ask cork as i think he has a fair idea who and where and all you want to know.

Cool well thanks towf

Hope your finding it less stressful punting rather than riding

From my perspective I actually quite rate the standard of jockeyship at Penn

Otero, Cora, Centeno are my 3 fav jockeys in no particular order, you have a steady stream of what i would deem above average riders in comparison to a lot of other tracks.