Friday USA BOOMS!!!

Gl with that project

Jas, such a beacon of positivity!  Used to be the best forum on BF once upon a time.

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R.I.P

Why has this gone to the dogs?  Have a lot the mugs lossed their dough??  It surely can't be the PC charges??

Oh yes it can !!

I thought we all win enough to compensate the the charges???

PC charge is  why I am not on here anymore, and looking at the shocking liquidity of late It would appear I am not alone.

IT'S NOT LOOKING good on here anymore jas

I know its a huge pity , but when they want 50 % of people's winnings it's hardly a surprise.
Appears that liquidty is down all over the site , I think BF have made a massive mistake with this latest PC hike .
If I was a shareholder I woudld be very concerned.

Problem is that a few of the big names have shuffled on, and it seems most of the posters were here only because they wanted to ride the coat-tails of the bigger punters. So no big names equals no small names either.  Hence Forum RIP.

Good news is there seems to be plenty of value around. You just have to be small enough to be able to enjoy it!

Reprint.. (That last post got strangely truncated!)

Problem is that a few of the big names have shuffled on, and it seems most of the posters were here
only because they wanted to ride the coat-tails of the bigger punters.

So no big names equals no small names either.  Hence Forum RIP.

Good news is there seems to be plenty of value around. You just have to be small enough to be able to enjoy it!

BTW  Parx @ Del

have called off tomorrow's races due to the heatwave.

they are trying to make the big winners leave, if this doesnt work itll be up to 80%

I agree with that B C .Betfair only want losers

Looks like it is working BC!   Still wouldn't rule out 80% minds..

they look at it that big winners are taking their money away & not putting it back. betfair dont like people winning too much.

liquidity definately down, everybody is affected by this

have you moved elsewhere jas? whats liquidity like, this could backfire on betfair

Betfair acting like it's their money FFS

Its better than it was last week BC although dissapounted there was no SARA cards tonight .  Im managing to get 50 % of my bets matched Id say.

Only breaking even on a portion of the Betfair players may seem a cause for complaint,
but if that portion of the Betfair players are extremely vocal and acting as
encouragement for the no-hopers and newbies, then they bring in considerable profits
in other ways.   

Betfair will end up bagging far fewer small fish if there's a reduced number of larger
fish doing the bragging.

I think Betfair will have to do a reversal of this decision in the fullness of time.

You think they're intelligent enough to realise what they've done wrong??

I'd like to think so LB , how would you feel if you was a shareholder ?

PID is cancelled tonight now , meetings's dropping like betfair's liquidity .

A selection...??!?!?!!

Sara - Aikenite for me No.3

theyve obviously put alot of thought into this decision.
im surprised they arent getting slated in the press.
they shouldnt be able to do what their doing by law. its like a tax, which ironic seeing as they moved to avoid tax themselves

Jas, if I was a shareholder I would have sold my shares the second they made this stupid decision - actually, I might well have started short-selling them!

But then I am somebody who bets and I'd like to feel I at least understand what'll draw people in to a betting exchange. The people who control Betfair are now just a bunch of suits who have very little understanding of what drives us guys. And when you get into that kind of a situation, you get company directors who make stupid and, ultimately, fatal decisions.  Sadly, we're going to suffer just as much as the shareholders.

I cant understand why even the non PC brigade dont want to move to the other side . Surely they aspire to become long term winners ?

I would say the liquidity at in this race at the other place is greater

WBD that is

Jas, the figures at the other place generally look good until the last minute

But with a few seconds to go, the big money goes down at Betfair. It doesn't at the Duck.

Most of the markets are funded largely by really huge players. And they're staying here.

Im not sure , they wont hang around here for long if they ever start winning longterm that's for sure.

Clear meesage from BF is  we dont want anyone winning

I think the people Betfair are punishing are the ones like you - the individuals
who've learnt how to tell value.  The new charges are carefully tailored so that
they hit the likes of you, but miss out the huge outfits, the ones with the
armies of bots and contacts up and down the country. Those guys are the ones who
pump in the majority of the liquidity, and they're being left alone.

As long as BF leave the really big players to destroy the newbies and no-hopers,
they may hang around. I think that's BF's thinking...

I'm sure that was what Mr Q was getting at the other night..

paying 50 %  weekly is ok if you run a bot and win every single week . However when you have weeks where you lose like I do , the 50 % take me out the ball game.

Pretty sure the 1A will win at Woodbine.

Anyway enough waffle from me for one night , im off to the other place to bet the EV @ MNR races

ga & gl

1A pulled up
ffs

4 River looks a price. Seems to have come back from his layoff in very good form.

deary me patrick husbands what a feeble effort there

Jesus, this is tumbleweedtastic.  WTF is everyone?

ehi jas,just in case u are reading,where is the other place you bet;i tried **** but has no liquidity for american races...

ehi jas,just in case u are reading,where is the other place you bet;i tried **** but has no liquidity for american races...

purple

ty jas

They've gone Gowly. And I suspect most of them won't be back.  It is very strange how everybody just melts away though.  I get the feeling even a string of Spiller Booms wouldn't be enough to get more then a dribble going.