@ bluenose

Id forget that Comedian only number you need to know about
is how many gerkins to stick in the Big Macs you cook.

I wouldnt call that number Bluenose , I rekon its the Canadian Mcdonalds recruiting office.

case in point

mcdonald s  kentucky fried chicken and a piza hut

Comedians favourite song

song that was written by comedian about himself


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgSPaXgAdzE

Not disputing the fact that youve got a satellite dish only the fact that you lied on here by saying that you watched US racing while in Cyprus on a channel that only broadcasts on 95 west(think its called RTN but may have been called something else in the past). If you want to believe it thats fine by me. I also had many hallucinations the last time i was in cyrpus. By the way I suggested pole length would be 4000 miles high,not 4000 feet with a little bend to peep over that tricky thing called the horizon.

You even had me fooled at the time you said it so I emailed the channel and they told myself, and i beleive jas also asked them, not possible as the beam is only aimed at North America and I asked if it was possible on a satellite forum and these were the replies from February 2010.

95 west

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Would it be possible to pick up USA channels on 95 west with an 8ft dish in UK or Cyprus?

reply 1

No m8 anything beyond your horizon is invisible to your dish even with a big dish in the UK 68.5 East to 61 West is possible.
reply 2

hi m8, im 99% certain that you cant due to the fact that the satellite is over the horizon in the uk and the footprint is focused on the usa. you really need skytel or william 1 to give you a definate answer,regards
reply 3

According to the "Satellite Antenna Calculator", which is handy little programme for working out where to aim a dish for any particular satellite, you would need to be at 20 degrees WEST of the Greenwich meridian to even be able "See" this satellite. That puts you roughly 400 miles off the coast of Ireland! Further more it is beamed at North & South America, so even then you would need a very big dish...

As for Cyprus - forget it. Sorry!

But if you say it happened then I believe you and I wont bother looking at your reply. I will say that you are the king of betfair and everything you say is true. Thanks again for solving one of the worlds problems regarding satellites.

are you serious?

"not disputing"???

once more time with a feeling : I watch US racing in Cyprus whenever I go

I provided more info to you than I should ever need to provide to substantiate that

if you want to stick to your wikipedia searches as opposed to reality than that's fine by me

you called me a liar and I stood up to you and proved you wrong

the least you can do is apologize





never mind, cnuts never apologize even when you rub their face in it

now FO and STFU

Burger Boy is seething  , luv it




cheesburgers all round 

You are not a nice person canadian , not just this post but many previous. You have this inane need to be 'top dog' and couldn't care how you get there . Some of your comments re the the IRA were disgraceful !

fronter, I must admit you are right

when dimwitted posters on here call me a liar against all the evidence....

....I'm not nice.....in fact, I become a very nasty pr!ck

thanks for the feedback though but......what exactly is your interest in this?

A lifetime of flipping burgers for the minimum Wage and the doing his loonies on here betting anything running in  front raps on or anything with a bullet work or anything with a form cycle has turned the Comedian into a very nasty and bitter man.  As the supporting the IRA e probablly means he spent them a free bag of fries,

need I say more

You havent provided any info apart from a bloke named stavros phone number?
I guess that settles it then.
The whole world is wrong and you and Stavros are right. Thanks for your help and I apologize for being wrong on this occasion. My face is truely rubbed in it and I will eat a big slice of humble pie.

Disappointment the forum seems to be going into a downward spiral. I don't post a lot but get a lot of pleasure out of reading and following some very good tipsters on here. I have to say canadian I haven't seen you tip too many up and can't believe you make money out of the horse racing game !!

you are engaging in evasive maneuvers

his name is Andreas Savva, not Stavros, don't play dumb....unless you really are

ask him a simple friggin question: "can I watch US racing in Cyprus"

then coma back on here and friggin apologize





otherwise I'll think you are just a common troll.......or may we accept you are and call it a day.

come

Correct Fronter
Comedian makes his loonies out of the cheesburger game .

brownnose, call the friggin number and eat crow

or don't, and eat crow

choose your poison

you can watch it on sky uk attheraces in cyprus you are correct

you can not watch it on the channel that you lied about watching it on, its that simple.

what part of the world being round dont you understand?

or go back to wiki and j@rk off thinking "I got thecanadian"



good luck with that





and you are laughably weak......in case you think I forgot

okay, I got better things to do with my time than continuing to embarrass the disgraced

who gives a f@ck what you think

that 4000ft or is it meter has been solidly rammed up your @$#

I will try and help to educate you.

Is it possible to view American Channels in Europe? (ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, WB, HBO etc )

Sorry it is NOT possible, they generally don't reach to Europe due to the footprints of the Satellite and the curve of the earth which means many of the US Satellites are below the horizon.

4000 miles you might have a chance

seething burger flipping comedian

Bluenose   it would be an easier task educating an ant

shut up idiot

are you really that thick

call the friggin guy and ask him

you just may get a dose of reality beyond what you can google from your home

FO....I've had enough with you





and if you ever want to get a public spanking let me know.....but you seem to have learned well from billy

"hey look over there"

Seeing beyond the horizon?



Am I correct in thinking that if a dish is high enough above sea level, then you can see more satellites east or west than at sea level?

If yes, then is there some sort of formula or rule or thumb to figure out how high you must go e.g. how high must a dish be to see a satellite that would normally be 1 degree below the horizon at sea level?

Whow I'm sure you could do it but the dish would have to be very large to view anything.

I wasn't thinking so much of increasing the dish size, more moving it to a high altitude location e.g. mountain!

PAS4 * 72E is beyond the horizon for me but the footprint still shows a strong signal suitable for a small dish. Just wondering if it's theoretically possible? Or is the footprint wrong - if I can't see the satellite, can the satellite 'see' me?

You should have a mountain which is hundreds kilometers high. So you just can not see satellite which is below horizon.

Ok, theoretically high mountain can give advantage if satellite is exactly on horizon, or for example just 0.5 degrees over horizon. Maybe ground noise can be lower then if mountain would be for example 5km high.

European Satellite TV
Frequently Asked Questions

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Introduction
What follows isn't exactly a 'FAQ', but an attempt to give some answers to the questions that face those who want to install satellite TV at their home. It concerns European satellites and my background is Scandinavia, but the issues should be similar throughout Europe.

** Before we start, however, let me dispose of the most common question that actually crops up: No, you cannot watch US satellite channels when you are in Europe. Nor can you watch European satellites in the US. Your antenna (the satellite dish) cannot receive signals from satellites under the horizon, and since the earth is round, US satellites are under Europe's horizon. Europe and the Middle East, however, is basically one area, and a dish in Sweden can pick up the same signals as those in Tunisia, and vice versa.

That said, we will proceed in the order of choices that a viewer interested in satellite TV will have to face. First, we will look at hardware choices, and what they imply; then we will survey what kind of satellite channels you can expect to pick up with the different options of hardware discussed.

you are stupid beyond belief

the horizon this, the horizon that, not possible, not possible....


call the friggin guy and ask him "can I watch FULL TIME US RACING FEEDS from the US, not through ATR"


call


or are you afraid all you internet searching may go to waste....and heaven forbid you'd have to eat crow


CALL

Game set and Match  to Bluenose

another public humiliation for out resident burger flipper

not jog off back to the griddle Comedian

Although not by strict definition terrestrial TV DX, satellite UHF TVRO reception is related in certain aspects. For example, reception of satellite signals requires sensitive receiving systems and large outdoor antenna systems. However, unlike terrestrial TV DX, satellite UHF TV reception is far easier to predict. The geosynchronous satellite at 22,375 miles (36,009 km) height is a line of sight reception source. If the satellite is above the horizon, it can be generally received, if it is below the horizon, reception is not possible.

I wouldnt call  1.01  you'll get straight through to the comedian

via mcdonalds in toronto

and why would i believe him? is he the worlds leading authority on the horizon and can move satellites without anyone knowing or maybe he moved cyprus for you to 400 miles off the west coast of ireland?
oh hes just a satellite guy

ok, it's not funny any more

go to sleep with your "horizon" while I enjoy US racing when I go to Cyprus next






any "fan club" shorties I should be backing soon?


End of.....even I have my limit...

Game set and Match  to Bluenose

another public humiliation for out resident burger flipper

not jog off back to the griddle Comedian

comedian on TILT....anger index sez he's probably knocked back half a bottle of Popov by now.

Last one for you tonight comedian as your ignorance is boring me now. Ive done some more googling and tried to find it in simple laymans terms for you.
Ive highlighted the parts you seem to have trouble understanding. If you have any questions I'll be back on here Sunday.
Maybe melanie has a satellite detective who could shed some light on this case like she did with the IRS and the kernel investigations?

QUESTION 4.

Can I get channels from the USA?

ANSWER 4.

There is very little American TV in the sky. Usually a few news channels.
It is very unlikely you would find a sport channels. To understand this you have to consider the Physics.
The Earth is round, not flat and microwaves (like light) travel in straight lines. Satellites above the
States are beyond our horizon. Only if US channels are relayed onto European satellites would we be able to
see them. This mainly seems to happen with free channels. Mostly news, however,
Fox Sport and Fox News are available in the clear from Pas 3 at 43 West. This requires an 90cm dish.
From the UK we can see satellites from about 60W to 60W so it the sat is (e.g.) 115 degrees etc. we can't see it
Even if it is within 60E to 60W you also need to check the footprints on www.lyngsat.com as well as the positions.
QUESTION 5.

I am British and I have moved to America.
Can I see British TV in America?

ANSWER 5.

This is not possible. The reasons for this are to do with the laws of Physics.
The Earth is round not flat and microwaves (like light) travels in straight lines. Satellites
above our horizon are beyond your horizon. Only if UK channels were to be relayed onto US satellites
would you be able to see them. You are in a better position to find that out than we are.

bluenose stp embarressing yourself

stavros obviously has himself a little satelite and is relaying signals illegally

bluenose, I don't understand why you are being so obstinate to be honest. "I've done some more googling" is not exactly the way to win this debate. Not just the Canadian but also another person who lived in Cyprus for a while posted that US TV reception is possible in Cyprus. Evidence on the ground contradicts your googling efforts. Besides, the Canadian provided the installer's name and number to verify his claim and his claim includes not just any US TV but specific dedicated racing feeds. The refusal to place a simple phone call may be indicative of your level of confidence in all your assertions. Your "[b]and why should I believe him[/b]" is about as weak an argument as ever posted on here. Since when has "googling efforts" become the only source of legitimacy and actual installer testimony simply dismissed? Sorry, bluenose, the lemmings who despise the Canadian may be on your side, but any reasonable person would not. Call and verify or give up, those are the only two options open to you at this time.

Menelaus/thecanadian you both make out to be intelligent people on here and you have cleverly now switched from watching RTN which broadcasts on 95 west to a line of "not just any US TV but dedicated racing feeds". Very clever and obviously your googling paid off.

I know a man who swears Elvis is alive and well and works in Tesco Express. Do you want his number to phone him up to have this fact verified?

Unfortunately the thread where the lies were posted was from February last year so has probably disappeared now.

Why cant supposed intelligent people understand something so simple as a fact that if a satellite is below your horizon it can not be seen. Just imagine how many dishes youve seen pointing into the ground to see a satellite?

http://www.satellite-calculations.com/Satellite/lookangles.htm

A simple but factual website where you can put in your location and it will tell you what satellites you can see.
Put in any location in Cyprus or anywhere in Europe for that matter and then select the satellite 95 west and you get the simple fact Satellite below horizon!

Going out now but I will look in later for the latest installment of how to defy physics and watch any TV station you want.

Bluenose, it sounds like you have your mind made up, it's your prerogative. With the exception of the Canadian inviting you in his home and physically showing you, nothing else will seem to satisfy you. I don't think that's about to happen any time soon. As far as I'm concerned, "call the installer" carries a lot more weight than "I did some more googling" but that's only my opinion and at the end of the day I don't give a to$$ to be honest. Good luck with your trades today.

Let face it Melanie , who give a flying t0ss what you think anyway .  Your a proven liar .

Oh , and get me a Big Mac , your paid to griddle not try and be smart

Navagation warning in place over Cyprus


ALL PILOTS BEWARE OF A 4000 MILE POLE STICKING UP WITH A SATELITE DISH ON THE END OF IT.

Dear Rob,
Thank you for enquiring with us.
Unfortunately we can not receive 95 west.

Best Regards 




Lakis Evelthontos

DIRECTOR

ASTROSAT
web:astrosatcyprus.com
web:astrosateurope.com
Email:sales@astrosat.com.cy
tel:0035725582183
Mob.0035799687859
Pobox:54776
Pcode:2727

-------Original Message-------

From: Rob
Date: 05/05/2011 11:21:49
To: AstroSAT
Subject: AngloINFO e-mail: AstroSAT

Rob saw your business or organisation on the AngloINFO Cyprus website and wanted to get in touch.

---  Message ---
I have a holiday home in Pathos and I'd like a dish installed pointing at 95 West so I can receive US tv is this possible please?

Hello.



            At the moment, RTN is only available through DISH Network, so we cannot broadcast anywhere out of their territory.  We will be launching an internet/mobile phone version in the future.



            Thanks,



            Ed




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From: Rob
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 7:13 AM
To: RTN (info@rtn.tv)
Subject: availabilty



Hi

I would like to receive your horse racing channel on my 8ft satellite dish is it possible to receive it in the UK or Cyprus please?

Regards

Rob

Case adjourned awaiting psychiatric reports.

Bluenose, I think your obstinacy has reached a new level. I have no doubt the emails you cut and pasted are genuine, after all you're not Billy, but I'm struggling to understand something. I've reviewed all the posts on both threads on this subject, and you are the only one who has brought an outfit RTN and ASTROSAT into this discussion. Just because evidently RTN is incapable of providing service to Cyprus, should this be interpreted that no else can?

Melanie you stick to burger flipping and leave the satelites to the experts.

Only way your going to underdtand satellites is if they start sellling Mc Satelites with fries

just wondering....why is this boob melanie here arguing the point for the comedian?  seems melanie has stuck her big beak into this disagreement.....why?

is melanie the comedian??

RTN or racetrack television network(now part of DishNetwork also unavailable in Cyprus) is the station that thecanadian claimed to have viewed while in Cyprus.
Astrosat is a random satellite company in cyprus i emailed this morning

Just because evidently RTN is incapable of providing service to Cyprus, should this be interpreted that no else can?
I only know of TVG, HRTV and RTN that show horsracing on a daily basis in North America. They all broadcast on satellites that are beamed at North America on satellites that can not be viewed in Europe because they are below the horizon so that would be a yes.

There is big difference between obstinacy and stating facts.
Hope this helps but i doubt it will.

I realise "call the installer" carries a lot more weight than stating facts and defying the laws of physics but like I said I can pass you on to a guy who swears Elvis is alive if thats the case.

While im here i may as well pass on a topical tip for thecomedian in the kentucky derby.

PANTSONFIRE

maybe a parlay w/ mister angry in the 4:35 @ ascot

It's funny how you have enough time to write emails but not enough time to pick up the phone for a couple of minutes. You can ask to find out about the equipment used, the dish orientation and the programming provider. Is it because it just might not support you limited view of this subject, or is it because you can't afford 50 cents for the call?

you've been found out telling yet more lies

Now back to the griddle

comedian
You're right I dont have 50c to waste on a phone call. I know and you know the truth and i dont think anyone else cares so to save me the money why dont you simply post the dish orientation here so I can ridicule you again on Sunday? Equipment used is irrelevant in this instance. Programme provider you've already told the forum last year its RTN or whatever it used to be called at the time.Its no big secret is it? In running finished 4-5 years ago so you wont be giving anything away.