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oj1234
05 Mar 11 20:53
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timeform site down,looking for form ,top jockeys, top trainers ect[>o][>o][>o][>o]

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By:
jas1968
When: 05 Mar 11 20:56
drf.com

equibase.com

brisnet.com



brisnet.co.uk    is your best bet for free form I think
By:
stiglup
When: 05 Mar 11 20:57
1% of handicappers are successful so dont bother
By:
oj1234
When: 05 Mar 11 21:21
thanx jas cheers mate now for the hard bit picking favs to layMischief
By:
oj1234
When: 05 Mar 11 21:29
thats not great stats stiglup,but some of the jockeys over there wouldnt get a job riding work in a top yard over here,they get into a driving finish 200 yards from the winning then put there whip down change hands and get beat by a head, or just lay all the selections from atr
By:
fawwon
When: 05 Mar 11 22:02
Timeform / betfair "guides" are about as much of a guide as the morning line prices at Beulah
By:
jas1968
When: 05 Mar 11 22:04
pmsl
By:
mrplacepot
When: 06 Mar 11 16:03
Absolute pish!!!!!

Granted there are some terrible jocks in the USA  but you usually find them at Charles,Turway,Mountieneer etc etc

The top jocks would wipe the floor with most of the jocks in the UK,dont know what the other guys think but ide say the Yankee racing is straighter.
By:
pmbets
When: 06 Mar 11 16:45
I agree Mr Placepot.There is an epedemic of cheating in uk racing imo.
By:
pmbets
When: 06 Mar 11 16:45
Probably because of the recession that the cheating is as bad as it is.
By:
winstonsmith1984
When: 06 Mar 11 17:36
ask Frankie who the best jock he's ever ridden against is, 1.01 he'd say Jerry Bailey.  There are several great riders in U.K, too (Frankie, Moore, etc).  As far as cheating goes, unlike UK racing, U.S. racing is straight-forward.  There is little incentive not to try.  There is no handicap mark to lower, prize money is excellent.  The bottom level horses at Philly (horses rated around 55) race for 15K.  Top riders at lowly Philly can earn 500k per year.  Same goes for the trainers.  Owners can make good profits with cheap horses, too.  It's the pathetic prize money and the authoritarian handicapping system which make cheating a necessity for connections in the UK.
By:
pmbets
When: 06 Mar 11 17:41
yes
By:
griff
When: 06 Mar 11 17:49
Tampa (US) 6th Mar - 17:50 R2 6f Claim

backed the 6 g l all
By:
mrplacepot
When: 06 Mar 11 19:39
Low class handicapping in the UK is set up for cheating especially  UK Flat racing.

Usually if a horse gets beat in USA  Its because the jockey was poor.
By:
winstonsmith1984
When: 06 Mar 11 20:04
yep.  it's never my fault, either
By:
oj1234
When: 06 Mar 11 20:29
thats why i was looking for the stats,because i would lay any short priced favorite as long as the jockey was`nt in the top five ,of the top jockeys list and the trainer was`nt in the top 8 simple because there is that much of a gulf of the top jocks and the rest,do you think i am on the right track or am i way of with my thinkingConfused
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