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18 Dec 10
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sorry to go back to something thats gone but if anybody can help it will be much appreciated.had 200 on the coupled 1 and 1 a in the 23.25 r8 at hawthorne and has been settled a loser by ****.some sites are saying non runners and have guests so didnt see the race.can any1 help with more info please and sorry again
dabraq, i am also seeing them as non-running.. this is from TVG
Scratched: 1-Caruso,1A-Runnin Da Fences,9-Foxie's Boy
Who did you bet with and ask them why they have put it as a losing bet?
Scratched: 1-Caruso,1A-Runnin Da Fences,9-Foxie's Boy
Who did you bet with and ask them why they have put it as a losing bet?
with a lot of speed in the race sunland sets for nicely for No3 need 4.00+ to play
know im prob a pain but thanks for the replys.done with **** as had funds in the account
groomstick 2.3 out to 4.3 within 2 minutes is that normal? 
Dont think it will last that long to be honest
2 at mount never got off the bridle lol won easy as you like
gamble landed on 8 at delta but that jockey should be banned.. used the whip 20 times even when in front
pmsl the 3 hacks at mount at 75s after fluffing the break
the 75-1 winner at mount,paid only 36-1 on betfair sp,thought they paid more,lol
Mount r3
had this #6 pencilled in as a 2/5 shot so perhaps a bit risky playing at just better than 1/2 but ticks all the boxes. Was beaten by a freak newbie last time out with the rest of the field miles behind, a repeat of that wins this well. GL
had this #6 pencilled in as a 2/5 shot so perhaps a bit risky playing at just better than 1/2 but ticks all the boxes. Was beaten by a freak newbie last time out with the rest of the field miles behind, a repeat of that wins this well. GL
grade 1 race at holly.... nice form for all horses.. i like #3 at 5/1.. likes the distance, dominguez on board.. medium win, big place bet
taken a chance & laid the 9 at mount,2-5 looks too short
no debaser, they kept the horses in paddock so the shoe repair does not affect the horse.. though i think 3, 7 & 2 are better alternatives tofav... good luck
lol.. how long does this shoe repair take... should have gone to city slickers [;)]
that was never a dead heat at Delta. 6 was clearly up
fav won holly easy... a horse for the notebook.. #3 was poor 
Lot of fekin about with false thousands on the cards. love to take the money off these morons
That question (What happens if I've layed 6 for £20, lose £10?) referred to the dead heat race, if anyone can help me...
no u lose 1/2 of what u would have done if 6 had won outright.
big bet on the 8 at mount,should be fav,will go off fav imo
8. DEAD HEATS
· Unless stated otherwise in the Specific Sports Rules and/or the Market Information the Dead Heat Rule applies to bets on a market where there are more winners than expected (as set out in the Market Information).
· For each bet matched on a relevant winning selection, the stake money is first reduced in proportion by multiplying it by the sum of the number of winners expected (as set out in the Market Information), divided by the number of actual winners (i.e. stake multiplied by (number of winners expected/number of actual winners)). The winnings are then paid to the successful backers on this 'reduced stake' (reduced stake multiplied by traded price) and the remaining stake money is paid to the appropriate layers.
· For example, assume there is a dead heat for first place between three horses. 'Client A' has backed one of the winners for a stake of 300 at the traded price of 4.0 and 'Client B' has taken the other side of this bet. When the event is settled, the stake (300) is multiplied by 1/3 (i.e. the number of expected winners (1) divided by the number of actual winners (3)) to calculate the reduced stake (100) and the remainder given to the layer (200). The backer then receives the traded price matched (4.0) multiplied by the reduced stake (4 x 100 = 400). In this example, Client A's net winnings are 100 (400 payout minus the original 300 stake), and Client B's net losses are 100. Alternatively, this can be viewed as the full amount paid to the traded price divided by the number of dead-heaters. In the above example this would be 300 at the traded price of 4.0 (1200) divided by 3; making 400 payout and 100 net winnings.
· By way of another example, assume there is an outright winner in a golf tournament but 7 players tie for 2nd place. In the "top 5 finish" market, after settling on the outright winner in the top 5 market there would be 4 other designated winners places available. 'Client A' has backed one of the winners for 300 at the traded price of 4.0 and 'Client B' has taken the other side of this bet. When the event is settled, the stake (300) is multiplied by 4/7 (i.e. the number of expected winners (4) divided by the number of actual winners (7)) to calculate the reduced stake (171.43) and the remainder given to the layer (128.57). The backer then receives the traded price matched (4.0) multiplied by the reduced stake (4 x 171.43 = 685.72). In this example, Client A's net winnings are 385.72 (685.72 payout minus the original 300 stake), and Client B's net losses are 385.72.
· In relation to customers whose betting counterparty is Betfair, for the purposes of this section of the Betfair Rules dealing with dead heats, the terms 'Client A', 'Client B' and 'appropriate layers' should, where relevant, be read as 'Betfair'.
· Unless stated otherwise in the Specific Sports Rules and/or the Market Information the Dead Heat Rule applies to bets on a market where there are more winners than expected (as set out in the Market Information).
· For each bet matched on a relevant winning selection, the stake money is first reduced in proportion by multiplying it by the sum of the number of winners expected (as set out in the Market Information), divided by the number of actual winners (i.e. stake multiplied by (number of winners expected/number of actual winners)). The winnings are then paid to the successful backers on this 'reduced stake' (reduced stake multiplied by traded price) and the remaining stake money is paid to the appropriate layers.
· For example, assume there is a dead heat for first place between three horses. 'Client A' has backed one of the winners for a stake of 300 at the traded price of 4.0 and 'Client B' has taken the other side of this bet. When the event is settled, the stake (300) is multiplied by 1/3 (i.e. the number of expected winners (1) divided by the number of actual winners (3)) to calculate the reduced stake (100) and the remainder given to the layer (200). The backer then receives the traded price matched (4.0) multiplied by the reduced stake (4 x 100 = 400). In this example, Client A's net winnings are 100 (400 payout minus the original 300 stake), and Client B's net losses are 100. Alternatively, this can be viewed as the full amount paid to the traded price divided by the number of dead-heaters. In the above example this would be 300 at the traded price of 4.0 (1200) divided by 3; making 400 payout and 100 net winnings.
· By way of another example, assume there is an outright winner in a golf tournament but 7 players tie for 2nd place. In the "top 5 finish" market, after settling on the outright winner in the top 5 market there would be 4 other designated winners places available. 'Client A' has backed one of the winners for 300 at the traded price of 4.0 and 'Client B' has taken the other side of this bet. When the event is settled, the stake (300) is multiplied by 4/7 (i.e. the number of expected winners (4) divided by the number of actual winners (7)) to calculate the reduced stake (171.43) and the remainder given to the layer (128.57). The backer then receives the traded price matched (4.0) multiplied by the reduced stake (4 x 171.43 = 685.72). In this example, Client A's net winnings are 385.72 (685.72 payout minus the original 300 stake), and Client B's net losses are 385.72.
· In relation to customers whose betting counterparty is Betfair, for the purposes of this section of the Betfair Rules dealing with dead heats, the terms 'Client A', 'Client B' and 'appropriate layers' should, where relevant, be read as 'Betfair'.
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anyone got the hollywood park result? would be apprieciated.
Half the girlfriends christmas present money on the 2 horse at Delta!
imagine listening to this music if your doing your cash! 
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