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29 Nov 11 10:32
Date Joined: 19 Feb 06
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The public sector workers did not cause this economic crisis. The super rich did; the financiers did; the bankers did; the landed  Tories, their lacky politicians and their boot boys in the press and the media did. The so called New labour  also caused this crisis they where actually proud of the fact that they admired greed and borrowing in all forms they are simply capitalist lackeys tying to put a false face on the fear and greed they and  all their friends feed on.

The public sectors do not work for fear and greed they work in order to keep the country running smoothly and to help their fellow man. They have taken numerous cuts in pay and conditions all of which they where entitled to protest about. This is yet another pay cut; they end up with les in their pay packet less in their pension and they have to work longer to get their pension.

The Super rich will not suffer from this crisis; if they get want they want they will get richer and stronger and we will all get weaker and weaker and weaker. They will only gain from  crisis. Do not let the rich  divide the working class; which is most of us; against ourselves. That is one of their aims along; with it they are strengthening all their other ways of increasing their power over us.

Support the strike, support your brothers and sisters and support yourself.
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Report Johnny The Guesser November 29, 2011 12:35 PM GMT
Why should the average worker be forced to pay huge chucks of his income to service public sector pensions when he can't afford to buy a pension of his own?
Report polybot November 29, 2011 12:53 PM GMT
Have no doubt, the public sector did cause this crisis.
Report Menelaus November 29, 2011 2:50 PM GMT
polybot Joined: 20 Oct 03
Replies: 1520 29 Nov 11 12:53 
Have no doubt, the public sector did cause this crisis.

I have read my share of rubbish on here but this post just redefined the meaning of the word rubbish.
Report Menelaus November 29, 2011 3:03 PM GMT
Wake up FFS. What caused this crisis is unadulterated, shameless, pervasive and without bounds......GREED.

Profiting on the back of productive labour through organic growth wasn't enough or fast enough for these feckers. They had to invent financial engineering so they can lever paper instruments multiples times the global GDP, when they damn well knew they can't be unwound without taking the entire financial system down and without in the process causing a global depression. Making their gargantuan bonuses was, still is and will continue to be as long as we let them, the ONLY thing that counts.

Do I like boated public salaries and pensions? Of course not!!!! But to blame the crisis on public workers is missing the forest because of the trees.
Report Thin and Crispy November 29, 2011 3:37 PM GMT
Have no doubt, the public sector did cause this crisis

Report wykhamist2 November 29, 2011 8:34 PM GMT
I agree the public sector as individuals did absolutely nothing wrong. They signed up to the terms that were offered in good faith in the belief that the government would be able to honour them. It's also true that it's outrageously unfair that they should get hammered while the elite just go on paying themselves obscene bonuses which they do not deserve.

However, the sad fact of them matter is that we cannot afford the public sector which Labour bequeathed us. I honestly believe that whatever terms are finally agreed cannot be honoured by any government. The money just will never be there to pay the index-linked pensions that they are entitled to.

So sadly the strike will do no good in the end. Those employess better start thinking about a plan B when it comes to their retirement because society simply won't have the money to pay them.
Report melv November 29, 2011 8:44 PM GMT
the sad fact of them matter is that we cannot afford the public sector which Labour bequeathed us.

Lets hear this at a general election instead of all the lying bsrtd parties vying with each other to see whose hands the NHS is safest in.
Report Menelaus November 29, 2011 9:11 PM GMT
Yeah melv, I can't wait for yet another general election either, where I can get to choose between the lying white zebra with the black stripes or the lying black zebra with white stripes. That ought to make a difference. // sarc.

The bankers and politicians, ALL OF THEM, are in an incestuous relationship. Promises have been made (pensions) by politicians in successive governments that need to be broken. The money is not there. The necessary growth to support this sh1t is not there, hasn't been for some time. The pyramid of debt and cheap oil that financed our standard of living has reached it's end. There are profound changes coming.

Get used it, prepare for it, or become road kill. There are no other choices, and certainly none that don't carry an enormous amount of pain with them.
Report melv November 29, 2011 10:43 PM GMT
Tomorrow is not an attack by the public sector workers upon the rest of the country. It is cry for support. As such it is saying that if we the biggest group of unified workers cannot make a stand against the juggernaught of the super rich, the financiers, the bankers, the landed Tories and the rest of the ruling fraction of a percent then we are lost. They will crush us all until we are living like the Chinese. Until the world is levelled down.
Report TheInvestor2 November 30, 2011 1:52 AM GMT
The only good thing about the General Election is betting on it.
Report Menelaus November 30, 2011 12:17 PM GMT
I've actually taken the time to walk about and talk to some of the strikers today. I've encountered an incredible amount of disparity as to why they are striking and none (and I mean NONE) could explain to me how we got in this mess. I never got a chance to ask the question how we get out of it.

People have been conditioned to believe the government can fix things for them. People have been conditioned to believe that the government will provide for them. Where the money comes from to support all these social programs is a mystery to most people, nor do they care as long as they continue to receive.

I wonder what's going to happen when we get real austerity in this country and the people clue in that the money the government is handing out in now strictly coming from the printer.

Will they start to clue in then?
Report atom burns November 30, 2011 8:10 PM GMT
When people vote themselves money from The Treasury the process, as Plato explained, goes from democracy to chaos to dictatorship. The ship is now leaving the port of democracy and heading into the stormy waters of chaos. Lets hope we're not on The Titanic!
Report melv November 30, 2011 8:47 PM GMT
Er is democracy this unelcted government that wants us to say how high whenever is says jump.

Or is democracy the right to free speech protest and lobbying.

Or is it just the mega rich who can tell governments what to do?

PS money is whatever the human will makes it as the clued up one's on here know.
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