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Gambling on horse racing looks a bit out of place on a financial forum.
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Hi Hayden,i think we are all aiming for the same thing I;E PROFITS, whether it be from stocks/shares or other investment opportinities,its all about trying to achieve the best possible returns.Its high risk,sure(so was Northern Rock),but the returns can be spectacular.
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My first question is Why Timber Treasure ?
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Because it meets certain criteria for it to be a bet on my system.
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3rd?
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you placed a bet on a hoss to win a race 6 hours before the off?
trust me, there is only one way to profit from the nags... lay the cheats. i studied form etc etc etc, knew everything there was to know about formlines, courses, breeding, you name it, i knew about it... net result = hundreds of hours of study and lost around 200 grand then i went back to my grass roots, and let my career in fx trading (tech anayl) show me the way to profit on betfair. spot the cheats, and lay em. net result = 3 or 4 hours studying the screens.charts.price movements a day and guranteed profits. not broken even yet, but just a matter of time, slowly slowly clawing it back. but i have the fishing rod to feed me for as long as cheats propser in hoss racing. |
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Valero Joined: 06 May 10
Replies: you placed a bet on a hoss to win a race 6 hours before the off? trust me, there is only one way to profit from the nags... lay the cheats. Hi Valero, How do you do it? ![]() |
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you want me to tell you what it took me nearly 8 years and 200 grand and plenty of misery to find out?
righto. |
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no system to sell etc, there is not enough liquidity for that, which is why my system is only known to one man alive, and will always remain that man's fishing rod.
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Valero ur spot on i had to pretty much give up backing horses due to cheats, but like you i now lay certain trainers,it can still be difficult tho. I study national hunt trainers in ireland with eye on uk aswel, what field section do you study?
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Valero
Good luck with your system,chasing that 200k..It seems alot to lose before you sussed out that what you were doing wasn't working' I only use TA,and trade what I see. Using tic charts,just follow the trend,using momentum and Support and Resistance levels. I'd be intrigued to know how you were playing,as to now. |
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biodiesel / kohaku
hi chaps, bio - i dont study any trainer in particular, just price movements and pattersn i have seen prior to the off, i could expand on this a lot lot more, but this would give my edge away, or a lot of it. I only play the hoss racing markets, flat and NH with certain constraints in place before i lay. Sorry that is about as much as i can say. koh - took me years to blow that 200 grand, but i am very calmly and simply making it back, but my system is very tight money management wise now, i know if i keep going i will have it made back within 18 months, that will do me, as i am glad i have a moeny printing machine on the work. with regards to fx trading - KISS, honestly there are so many fancy technical indicators around now, i was taught and mentored by an ex Citbank fx trader from the golden era, and it was simply to find the firm support and resistance levels that reoccure over 4 time frames, 15m, hourly, daily, weekly... and the only indicator we used was MACD. |
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Valero,i dissagree with you as far as it not being possible to make a profit backing horses to win as i hope to show over the next 30 days.As far as you losing 200k backing horses i think your strategies must have been seriously flawed.
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naah, remember this, anybody can have a successful month of betting, hell i had months inside a 5/6 year period where i turned 200 quid into 8 grand.
overall, i began to see pattern emerge in unfair play, and thankfully BF allows to be in on the scam. i do feel its almost theft like what i do. i do no research whatsoever, just watch the market like i would the price action of cable (sterling v the greenback) and over the years have learnt correllations between movements and markets that lead me to suspect a certain hoss may not be primed, may be going for a new handicap mark, held back for other reasons... but certianly not in with a chance of winning. everybody knows the game is bent, people in the game have even told me, not that i needed to be told. years of closely watching races run out, having placed money on them... any analytical mind will see patterns forming. i just took the pain of losing and ran with the feeling of BENT, and joined THEIR gravy train. |
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I certainly agree with you when you say anyone can have the odd winning month,but using this system i've only had 4 losing months out of 21,and in that time has shown a fantastic profit on turnover.Maybe 21 months is too small a period of time to analyse certain trends, but so far it has proved most lucrative and i'am confident that results can continue to keep showing good returns.
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best of luck.
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i trade currencies myself, interesting u say they only use MACD,id well believe it,timming of its use crucial. How many trades a year should a successful trader follow i know people have different styles but what did the golden era follow
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Monday 21st,2 bets on system, both run at Chepstow;6.50 SERMONS MOUNT 47.50 Win.
7.20 SPIC 'N' SPAN, also 47.50 win. |
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bio - these were bankt traders, so maybe dozens of small trades a day, linked with a few longer term plays.
all dependant on your style. a tip... if you are day trading, the real movement comes (for sterling anywany) between 6.30 and 8.30 am get the charts set up on the different timeframes, mark off the support/resist, keep a close eye on the macd, and go in hard for a signal show. |
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Kiss of Death..Goldhunter
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cheers Valero, Iav learned that the main moves happen in the morning alright. Any other tips?
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yes, FX is VERY VERY VERY dangerous, a move of 2, 3, 400 pips can wipe you out in minutes.
only takes a rogue indonesian bank to sell a yard of any currecny, or a bomb to go off somewhere, and you are cleaned out. always always use guaranteed stops if you are planning on holding a position overnight. |
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u canot lose on my system
u put on for me and u take 10% commision on my winnings and you stand u lose nothing interested ? |
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money on what horses or FX
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I always use stops i wouldnt trade otherwise.
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greyhounds
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u joking me i dont like dag racing. I know of a system, it involves a iphone and betting with high st bookmaking firm, ur prob on the same system yea
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u r talking about arbing
i am not i talking bettiung greyhounds over the price that they should be so u win in he long run |
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goldhunter Joined: 06 Mar 09
Replies: 55 20 Jun 10 20:29 but using this system i've only had 4 losing months out of 21,and in that time has shown a fantastic profit on turnover. but so far it has proved most lucrative and i'am confident that results can continue to keep showing good returns. ok gold hunter if yur system is that good then post a few trades BEFORE they happen. I'm betting you dont but I could be wrong.Lets see the colour of you trades goldigger. ps- where is your current location- nigeria?[:x] |
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not interested, I think ul find the desperados in the football forum.
Goldhunter: You might of had only 4 loosing months but how many home run months did you have, like big winning months. |
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Bank now stands at 812.25 after todays losing bet.
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Biodiesel,not sure i quite understand you about 'home runs' but there have been many big winning months during period, so big that it would be pointless posting past results on here because you will NOT believe me.
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Mrbean,i had to post todays bet on another topic (1 BET ON SYSTEM TODAY)as , for whatever reason i couldn't post on this link.If you care to notice earlier'proofs',you will find that i do so way before the off,even 6hrsin one case,ask Valero.
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Mrbean,i had to post todays bet on another topic (1 BET ON SYSTEM TODAY)as , for whatever reason i couldn't post on this link.If you care to notice earlier'proofs',you will find that i do so way before the off,even 6hrsin one case,ask Valero.
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Wed 23 June, 1 bet on system;'GUGA' 9.10 Bath £40.60 win.
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i applaude you goldie for posting the pick.please post the result also as i am here in aust.Interested to see how it goes as I m sure many others are, although they may not be posting.
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GUGA, came 6th of 9 runners. are these lay bets goldie 100%strike rate!!!
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