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Yeeee-haaaah! Welcome to the final major of the season to complete our competition year. Will one of TheCarambaExperience and wiseword be able to create separation from the other to claim lone most titles of the season? Will Journeyman or snowynoon add to their Wimbledon glory and tie the others on the year or even overtake them? Is it finally my time to be serious and win one of these? Stay tuned for the thrilling final!
Basic rules are very simple (no changes compared to the previous edition, so veterans need not read)
1. For each day of play, pick one player that you think will win their match.
2. If your player wins, you advance to the next day and get to pick again. If your player loses, you are out.
3. Each player can only be chosen once over the course of the tournament.
4. The picks continue every day until only one person is left, everyone has been eliminated, or the tournament has finished. If there is no single contestant that made it the furthest, a tiebreaker will commence (click spoiler a bit below this for details)
5. Each pick has to be submitted before the relevant match starts and once you've submitted the pick, you are stuck with it unless the match did not happen due to a prematch withdrawal. In that case you get to submit a new pick. That's the basic rules already.
At the end, glory, lots of forum cred, and an entry into the competition's Hall of Fame awaits the ultimate winner. The Hall of Fame can be found at:
https://community.betfair.com/tennis/go/thread/view/94186/30945693/suicide-pool-winners-throughout-the-years
Tiebreaker rules and sort of FAQ for additional rules/way things are handled:
Spoiler: Show
Tiebreaker:
If multiple people go out on the same day and no-one remains, these last people to go out submit their best educated judgements regarding the outcome of the final match of the tournament - winner of the final, amount of sets lost by the winner, amount of games lost by the winner, points won by the winner. Judged also in that order. If both are the same in winner, then we go to sets. If both also had the same number of sets, then we go to games. If that's also still the same or the same difference to the actual number, then points won. That should hopefully always lead to a conclusion.
To enable that, those tiebreaker judgements will be sent to me per private message (or maybe X in some cases) instead of being publically announced in the thread. If the tiebreaker involves me, we'd have to find someone else who accepts the private messages, but I'm positive that will not be a problem.
Onto the cases:
Case: A pick I made became invalid because the match didn't happen due to a withdrawal. I have a life and don't sit on the computer all day to monitor such things, so wasn't able to submit a replacement pick. Am I screwed?
Decision: No, there is a backup solution. The last to start eligible favourite (I will use average odds on tennisexplorer.com) of the day is automatically entered for you. Eligible means player that had not been picked yet on a previous day.
Case: There was a retirement. Does the pick still count?
Decision: Yes, picks count the moment 1 ball has been played in the match.
Case: I looked at the wrong schedule and picked a player that doesn't even play. What now?
Decision: Please submit a new pick.
Case: A lot of matches were rescheduled for the next day due to rain. Can I pick from those on the new day?
Decision: No, rescheduled matches are not eligible to be picked from. If this situation arises, I will try to post a list of ineligible matches.
Case: I have the same amount of winning picks as someone else, but I ran out of picks whereas the other person was able to make another pick (which then lost). What happens?
Decision: The other person finishes ahead of you. Think of it this way. The moment you ran out of picks to make, you navigated your bicycle into a big mountain of dung. You are unharmed, but you cannot continue your ride on the bike. The other person only rode their bike into the pile of dung the moment their pick lost, which is a long time after you did it. Therefore the other person made it further and gets to finish ahead of you.
Case: I have a great suggestion for the comp. Am I allowed to tell you and others?
Decision: Sure, suggestions are always welcome!
Case: The Great Leader edy lost before the final day of the tournament. That makes me very sad.
Decision: If it looks like someone else than edy is going to win, edy gets put back into the competition (pending approval from a majority of other contestants) until he has beaten everyone.
Sunday start, so that's when the first pick is due.
Basic rules are very simple (no changes compared to the previous edition, so veterans need not read)
1. For each day of play, pick one player that you think will win their match.
2. If your player wins, you advance to the next day and get to pick again. If your player loses, you are out.
3. Each player can only be chosen once over the course of the tournament.
4. The picks continue every day until only one person is left, everyone has been eliminated, or the tournament has finished. If there is no single contestant that made it the furthest, a tiebreaker will commence (click spoiler a bit below this for details)
5. Each pick has to be submitted before the relevant match starts and once you've submitted the pick, you are stuck with it unless the match did not happen due to a prematch withdrawal. In that case you get to submit a new pick. That's the basic rules already.
At the end, glory, lots of forum cred, and an entry into the competition's Hall of Fame awaits the ultimate winner. The Hall of Fame can be found at:
https://community.betfair.com/tennis/go/thread/view/94186/30945693/suicide-pool-winners-throughout-the-years
Tiebreaker rules and sort of FAQ for additional rules/way things are handled:
Spoiler: Show
Tiebreaker:
If multiple people go out on the same day and no-one remains, these last people to go out submit their best educated judgements regarding the outcome of the final match of the tournament - winner of the final, amount of sets lost by the winner, amount of games lost by the winner, points won by the winner. Judged also in that order. If both are the same in winner, then we go to sets. If both also had the same number of sets, then we go to games. If that's also still the same or the same difference to the actual number, then points won. That should hopefully always lead to a conclusion.
To enable that, those tiebreaker judgements will be sent to me per private message (or maybe X in some cases) instead of being publically announced in the thread. If the tiebreaker involves me, we'd have to find someone else who accepts the private messages, but I'm positive that will not be a problem.
Onto the cases:
Case: A pick I made became invalid because the match didn't happen due to a withdrawal. I have a life and don't sit on the computer all day to monitor such things, so wasn't able to submit a replacement pick. Am I screwed?
Decision: No, there is a backup solution. The last to start eligible favourite (I will use average odds on tennisexplorer.com) of the day is automatically entered for you. Eligible means player that had not been picked yet on a previous day.
Case: There was a retirement. Does the pick still count?
Decision: Yes, picks count the moment 1 ball has been played in the match.
Case: I looked at the wrong schedule and picked a player that doesn't even play. What now?
Decision: Please submit a new pick.
Case: A lot of matches were rescheduled for the next day due to rain. Can I pick from those on the new day?
Decision: No, rescheduled matches are not eligible to be picked from. If this situation arises, I will try to post a list of ineligible matches.
Case: I have the same amount of winning picks as someone else, but I ran out of picks whereas the other person was able to make another pick (which then lost). What happens?
Decision: The other person finishes ahead of you. Think of it this way. The moment you ran out of picks to make, you navigated your bicycle into a big mountain of dung. You are unharmed, but you cannot continue your ride on the bike. The other person only rode their bike into the pile of dung the moment their pick lost, which is a long time after you did it. Therefore the other person made it further and gets to finish ahead of you.
Case: I have a great suggestion for the comp. Am I allowed to tell you and others?
Decision: Sure, suggestions are always welcome!
Case: The Great Leader edy lost before the final day of the tournament. That makes me very sad.
Decision: If it looks like someone else than edy is going to win, edy gets put back into the competition (pending approval from a majority of other contestants) until he has beaten everyone.
Sunday start, so that's when the first pick is due.
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Advancing to Day 2:
aaronh - Mensik
Anubis8 - Lehecka
edy - Davidovich Fokina
GRANTCKING - Machac
Journeyman - Davidovich Fokina
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina
snowynoon - Shelton
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima
wisewords - Lehecka
Freshly Out:
Blanchet def. SabineIsGOAT, stocks 6-4, 3-6, 7-6(7), 6-2
aaronh - Mensik
Anubis8 - Lehecka
edy - Davidovich Fokina
GRANTCKING - Machac
Journeyman - Davidovich Fokina
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina
snowynoon - Shelton
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima
wisewords - Lehecka
Freshly Out:
Blanchet def. SabineIsGOAT, stocks 6-4, 3-6, 7-6(7), 6-2
Advancing to day 3:
aaronh - Mensik, Majchrzak
Anubis8 - Lehecka, Cobolli
edy - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak
GRANTCKING - Machac, Majchrzak
Journeyman - Davidovich Fokina, Cobolli
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak
snowynoon - Shelton, Diallo
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak
wisewords - Lehecka, Majchrzak
aaronh - Mensik, Majchrzak
Anubis8 - Lehecka, Cobolli
edy - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak
GRANTCKING - Machac, Majchrzak
Journeyman - Davidovich Fokina, Cobolli
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak
snowynoon - Shelton, Diallo
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak
wisewords - Lehecka, Majchrzak
That was a struggle for all of us on day 2 to get through.
Felix Auger Aliassime
Felix Auger Aliassime
Advancing to day 4:
aaronh - Mensik, Majchrzak, Popyrin
Anubis8 - Lehecka, Cobolli, Auger Aliassime
edy - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin
GRANTCKING - Machac, Majchrzak, Popyrin
Journeyman - Davidovich Fokina, Cobolli, Popyrin
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin
snowynoon - Shelton, Diallo, Auger Aliassime
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak, Popyrin
wisewords - Lehecka, Majchrzak, Popyrin
aaronh - Mensik, Majchrzak, Popyrin
Anubis8 - Lehecka, Cobolli, Auger Aliassime
edy - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin
GRANTCKING - Machac, Majchrzak, Popyrin
Journeyman - Davidovich Fokina, Cobolli, Popyrin
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin
snowynoon - Shelton, Diallo, Auger Aliassime
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak, Popyrin
wisewords - Lehecka, Majchrzak, Popyrin
I'll have to use my best diplomatic skills to convince him he needs to make a replacement pick.
edy • August 27, 2025 5:46 AM BST
Grant takes Rublev
edy • August 27, 2025 5:46 AM BST
Though Rublev doesn't even play on day 4
He's too busy trying to cheer up Daniil with amusing tiktoks
Grant takes Rublev
edy • August 27, 2025 5:46 AM BST
Though Rublev doesn't even play on day 4
He's too busy trying to cheer up Daniil with amusing tiktoks
Advancing to day 5:
Anubis8 - Lehecka, Cobolli, Auger Aliassime, Tiafoe
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe
Freshly Out:
Colloginon def. aaronh, GRANTCKING, Journeyman, snowynoon, wisewords 6-4, 3-6, 3-6, 6-4, 7-5
Kym def. edy 4-6, 7-6(2), 7-5, 3-6, 7-6(8)
Anubis8 - Lehecka, Cobolli, Auger Aliassime, Tiafoe
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe
Freshly Out:
Colloginon def. aaronh, GRANTCKING, Journeyman, snowynoon, wisewords 6-4, 3-6, 3-6, 6-4, 7-5
Kym def. edy 4-6, 7-6(2), 7-5, 3-6, 7-6(8)
Advancing to day 6:
Anubis8 - Lehecka, Cobolli, Auger Aliassime, Tiafoe, Rublev
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Bublik
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Paul
Anubis8 - Lehecka, Cobolli, Auger Aliassime, Tiafoe, Rublev
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Bublik
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Paul
Advancing to day 7:
Anubis8 - Lehecka, Cobolli, Auger Aliassime, Tiafoe, Rublev, Djokovic
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Bublik, Machac
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Paul, Lehecka
Anubis8 - Lehecka, Cobolli, Auger Aliassime, Tiafoe, Rublev, Djokovic
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Bublik, Machac
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Paul, Lehecka
Advancing to day 8:
Anubis8 - Lehecka, Cobolli, Auger Aliassime, Tiafoe, Rublev, Djokovic, de Minaur
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Bublik, Machac, Rublev
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Paul, Lehecka, Rublev
Anubis8 - Lehecka, Cobolli, Auger Aliassime, Tiafoe, Rublev, Djokovic, de Minaur
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Bublik, Machac, Rublev
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Paul, Lehecka, Rublev
Advancing to day 9:
Anubis8 - Lehecka, Cobolli, Auger Aliassime, Tiafoe, Rublev, Djokovic, de Minaur, Fritz
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Bublik, Machac, Rublev, Lehecka
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Paul, Lehecka, Rublev, Fritz
Anubis8 - Lehecka, Cobolli, Auger Aliassime, Tiafoe, Rublev, Djokovic, de Minaur, Fritz
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Bublik, Machac, Rublev, Lehecka
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Paul, Lehecka, Rublev, Fritz
Advancing to day 10:
Anubis8 - Lehecka, Cobolli, Auger Aliassime, Tiafoe, Rublev, Djokovic, de Minaur, Fritz, Musetti
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Bublik, Machac, Rublev, Lehecka, Musetti
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Paul, Lehecka, Rublev, Fritz, de Minaur
Anubis8 - Lehecka, Cobolli, Auger Aliassime, Tiafoe, Rublev, Djokovic, de Minaur, Fritz, Musetti
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Bublik, Machac, Rublev, Lehecka, Musetti
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Paul, Lehecka, Rublev, Fritz, de Minaur
Advancing to day 11:
Anubis8 - Lehecka, Cobolli, Auger Aliassime, Tiafoe, Rublev, Djokovic, de Minaur, Fritz, Musetti, Alcaraz
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Bublik, Machac, Rublev, Lehecka, Musetti, Djokovic
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Paul, Lehecka, Rublev, Fritz, de Minaur, Alcaraz
Anubis8 - Lehecka, Cobolli, Auger Aliassime, Tiafoe, Rublev, Djokovic, de Minaur, Fritz, Musetti, Alcaraz
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Bublik, Machac, Rublev, Lehecka, Musetti, Djokovic
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Paul, Lehecka, Rublev, Fritz, de Minaur, Alcaraz
Advancing to day 11:
Anubis8 - Lehecka, Cobolli, Auger Aliassime, Tiafoe, Rublev, Djokovic, de Minaur, Fritz, Musetti, Alcaraz, Sinner
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Bublik, Machac, Rublev, Lehecka, Musetti, Djokovic, Auger-Aliassime
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Paul, Lehecka, Rublev, Fritz, de Minaur, Alcaraz, Sinner
Anubis8 - Lehecka, Cobolli, Auger Aliassime, Tiafoe, Rublev, Djokovic, de Minaur, Fritz, Musetti, Alcaraz, Sinner
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Bublik, Machac, Rublev, Lehecka, Musetti, Djokovic, Auger-Aliassime
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Paul, Lehecka, Rublev, Fritz, de Minaur, Alcaraz, Sinner
I have run out of players, good luck to the final two.
You were unlucky with early picks. Lehecka having a long run due to Shelton's injury. Felix having an unexpected run. When that happens it limits your options later on.
edy, you have put in incorrect picks for day 11 for n88 and myself.
I go Sinner for the semis.
I go Sinner for the semis.
Advancing to day 12: - Corrected version
Anubis8 - Lehecka, Cobolli, Auger Aliassime, Tiafoe, Rublev, Djokovic, de Minaur, Fritz, Musetti, Alcaraz, Sinner
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Bublik, Machac, Rublev, Lehecka, Musetti, Djokovic, Sinner
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Paul, Lehecka, Rublev, Fritz, de Minaur, Alcaraz, Auger-Aliassime
Anubis8 - Lehecka, Cobolli, Auger Aliassime, Tiafoe, Rublev, Djokovic, de Minaur, Fritz, Musetti, Alcaraz, Sinner
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Bublik, Machac, Rublev, Lehecka, Musetti, Djokovic, Sinner
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Paul, Lehecka, Rublev, Fritz, de Minaur, Alcaraz, Auger-Aliassime
Carlos Alcaraz
I would say I regret not going for it last round, but given I would have probs picked de Minaur it wouldn't have worked anyway. He's even more of a midcarder than Felix!
I would say I regret not going for it last round, but given I would have probs picked de Minaur it wouldn't have worked anyway. He's even more of a midcarder than Felix!
Advancing to day 15
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Bublik, Machac, Rublev, Lehecka, Musetti, Djokovic, Sinner, Alcaraz
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Paul, Lehecka, Rublev, Fritz, de Minaur, Alcaraz, Auger-Aliassime, Sinner
...In this clash of the two winningest players of the Mouse Trap Trophy, neither has a pick left for the final. So the tiebreaker comes into play. Please submit as much of the following as you wish (in order) to me either on here as a DM or on X.
Winner of the men's final, number of sets played, number of games played (a tiebreak counts as a game), points won by the victorious player.
As I said, you don't need to submit all of them if you choose not to. Just be aware, that if e. g. both are still tied after games were taken into account and you have not submitted any number for the points while the other person has done so, you lose the tiebreaker.
Deadline is 7 pm BST on Sunday.
n88uk - Davidovich Fokina, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Bublik, Machac, Rublev, Lehecka, Musetti, Djokovic, Sinner, Alcaraz
TheCarambaExperience - Nakashima, Majchrzak, Popyrin, Tiafoe, Paul, Lehecka, Rublev, Fritz, de Minaur, Alcaraz, Auger-Aliassime, Sinner
...In this clash of the two winningest players of the Mouse Trap Trophy, neither has a pick left for the final. So the tiebreaker comes into play. Please submit as much of the following as you wish (in order) to me either on here as a DM or on X.
Winner of the men's final, number of sets played, number of games played (a tiebreak counts as a game), points won by the victorious player.
As I said, you don't need to submit all of them if you choose not to. Just be aware, that if e. g. both are still tied after games were taken into account and you have not submitted any number for the points while the other person has done so, you lose the tiebreaker.
Deadline is 7 pm BST on Sunday.
For number of sets: if I have 4, my opponent has 3, and the correct number is 5. Do I win (by being closest), or does it go to games due to none of us having the correct answer?
I believe the previous tiebreakers have been all women's finals, where correct set numbers only have two choices so this could not become an issue.
I believe the previous tiebreakers have been all women's finals, where correct set numbers only have two choices so this could not become an issue.
The received choices will be published here after the deadline passed btw., before or during the early stages of the final.
Well played Caramba. I really thought you'd go Sinner!
n88uk: Alcaraz, 4 sets, 42 games, 138 points won
TheCarambaExperience: Alcaraz. 4. 36. 159.
Carlos Alcaraz won in four sets with the match having 34 games. Therefore TheCarambaExperience equals his big rival this year, wisewords, with each finishing on a strong three titles. Interestingly, they have shown to be very strong gender specialists, with wisewords' titles all coming with the women and TheCarambaExperience's all coming with the men.
TheCarambaExperience: Alcaraz. 4. 36. 159.
Carlos Alcaraz won in four sets with the match having 34 games. Therefore TheCarambaExperience equals his big rival this year, wisewords, with each finishing on a strong three titles. Interestingly, they have shown to be very strong gender specialists, with wisewords' titles all coming with the women and TheCarambaExperience's all coming with the men.
Sep 7, 2025 -- 10:33PM, n88uk wrote:
Well played Caramba. I really thought you'd go Sinner!
Thanks. You did well too, harsh to land a 5.6 shot (3-1 Alcaraz) and still not win.
Sep 7, 2025 -- 10:39PM, edy wrote:
n88uk: Alcaraz, 4 sets, 42 games, 138 points wonTheCarambaExperience: Alcaraz. 4. 36. 159.Carlos Alcaraz won in four sets with the match having 34 games. Therefore TheCarambaExperience equals his big rival this year, wisewords, with each finishing on a strong three titles. Interestingly, they have shown to be very strong gender specialists, with wisewords' titles all coming with the women and TheCarambaExperience's all coming with the men.
Before US Open last year I had not won any men's events (I did have a few shared though). And now I have won 4 out of the last 5. Things so easy in this Sinner/Alcaraz era 
Thanks edy for hosting.
I would also like to give a special thanks to Tommy Paul again who always bails me out of tricky situations 
What happened to never trusting people whose first and surname are both really first names?
By SamuelMertensBertens on 6 Aug 23 12:38
never trust a person with two first names. It's what I've always said
never trust a person with two first names. It's what I've always said
Is betraying that holy principle what enabled you to change from never winning the men's to almost always winning them?
Sep 8, 2025 -- 6:36AM, edy wrote:
What happened to never trusting people whose first and surname are both really first names?
It's still a very risky play. But when it works, the rewards are great.
As for turning things around, I have played the Tommy Paul card in each of my four victories, and there was also this which happened at Wimbledon 2024.
Freshly out:
SamuelMertensBertens (Norrie was never scheduled for day 1 and is in the wrong half of the draw)
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