Wimbledon Men's SF #2 2025: Jannik Sinner vs Novak Djokovic

i suppose the calculation he has to make is what chance do i have at the ao next year. i gave him very little chance this year so obviously i give him even less of a chance a year on. its a fair point to make though as far as for whatever reason he doesnt have to go through sinner and or carlos so proabably he will carry on

if that were to happen i mean. sinner and carlos not being in the way

I suppose it's more about feeling he's still competitive. A thrashing against Jannik would obviously be more likely to lead to retirement thoughts than if it was a close loss.

Jul 11, 2025 -- 5:33PM, edy wrote:

There are still many ponies to be earned for his daughter.

Probably not so much about ponies. I think they still love seeing daddy play on the big stage.

If he gets trashed he will just find a reason like he didn't pray hard enough to bosnian mythical pyramids or something.

Gigi called that forehand by Jannik laser like.

Ponies definitely go above sitting in the stands and watching tennis imo.

how many ponies does a 9 year old girl need?

Gigi called that forehand by Jannik laser like.

that should be gsm really

This is going to get ugly for Novak, he's not moving well and Sinner doesnt need any encouragement. i think we nare seeing a changing of the guard. I hope he doesnt get humiliated because he doesnt deserve that but he's in mortal danger here.

None, but ponies are not about how many you need. It's about having as many as possible (if your family can effort others to do the bulk of the caretaking).

echoes of federer against hubi at the minute

afford

edy, we need Djoko to fight for our wooden spoon pick, but he doesn't seem concerned about that.

Oh, if Djokovic wins today and loses the final we win the wooden spoon comp?

yes

thought djoko would win a set at least but looking unlikely right now

Go Novak,
You must believe in yourself!
Go Novak,
or you'll be left on the shelf!
Go Novak,
you've got to grab with bot hands!
Go Novak, go!

think hes gonna need more than a chant edy

His body language is that of someone who is dejected and dis-heartened, if he doesnt dig deep its all over/

True, so here is a second chant.

Novak Novak Novak
Oy Oy Oy
Novak
Oy
Novak
Oy
Novak Novak Novak
Oy Oy Oy

Anyway, people are having quite the expectations on Djokovic.
When Jimmy Connors made US Open SF aged 39, it was seen as a miracle feat by the near 40 year old man. I believe that he is still the oldest SF'ist.
When Novak here has made Wimbledon SF aged 38 we are disappointed that he's not putting up a bigger fight.

As a perennial AO winner that should give him warm and comfy feelings and drive him to perform his very best.

Let's hope that chant works!

if Novak can't win Wimbledon now, he's not going to at 39, he is finished at the top level, not only old but he looks old, time to hang up the racquet

Let's hope he doesn't do a Federer and go out and some nonsense event like the Laver Cup

Wimbledon or US Open imo.

how much is a pony?

25 quid of course.

Novak is not finishing this match, if he does he risks getting bagelled in the 3rd set, sad to see he's got to be3 carrying a groin or knee injury if that slide the other day

Jul 11, 2025 -- 5:46PM, mesmerised wrote:

Let's hope he doesn't do a Federer and go out and some nonsense event like the Laver Cup

Give me one player that went out in a better way than sitting on a bench holding hands and crying with his biggest rival.

Federer's farewell was as iconic as it gets really.

Ellie Goulding song blasting through the arena too

and Ellie tweeting about Rod Lava

I think these mega rich celebs should give up their seats once in a while and let some poor people in to watch the tennis.

Outright:
Carlos 1.83
Jannik 2.26

wow, Sinner !

djokovic always retires in these circumstances

roger federer never retired

For US Open, I'll get the Men's final thread up before the tournament, seems no point in waiting until after the semifinals.

yeah at Laver Cup, we just talked about it.

Jul 11, 2025 -- 5:52PM, edy wrote:

Federer's farewell was as iconic as it gets really.

You got the last two letters right, it was Tragic.

Jul 11, 2025 -- 5:52PM, edy wrote:

Federer's farewell was as iconic as it gets really.

You got the last two letters right, it was Magic

f*** me 3 years after retirement and the Federer fanboys are as gooey eyed as ever

I still remember Federer was meant to play Basel 2022 at NB 7:30 pm on the Tuesday.

Oh, stop being such a Miserable Martin, mes. Be more of an Appreciative Angela.

someone get this old mug off the court and tuck him into bed with a cup of cocoa and read him a good book, and role on Switatek v Anisimova tomorrow, this match is a done.

were we ever close to seeing Federer vs Alcaraz or Federer vs Sinner?

That's why the BBC sacked Sue Barker, too many complaints after years of fawning over Federer, it's been like petitions in the UK, a petition has to reach 100,000 signatures in the UK before MP's are forced to consider the proposal, I think the BBC must have a threshold of a million signatures as they'd have reached 100k years ago, but they got there in the end

Not super close, but had Sinner won two more matches at AO 2000, against Fucsovics and Paul, they would have met in R16 there.

looks like he can hardly move

wow Sinner was playing AO 2000

Here we go, let me off.

Novak missed training yesterday as said before the match started, he's not fit enough to play his level, which even at his age is still a lot higher than what he's shown so far

its all ov3r

good call mes, 1.46 (or whatever it was) was a great price

Was that to retire?

to win the match i think

unless I'm mistaken

Free money that was

I didn't know they played baseball in Italy.

Djoko evens to win this set 2-0 up. Never thought I would see the day.

How’s the leg?

he might get this set but if he wins from here it would be an even more brutal loss for sinner than the fo final and i never thought it would be possible to top or should that be bottom that

shade coming over the court. almost like the reverse of nuclear man for djoko

Is Sinner taking a breather?

Just seen that Sinner lost to Tsitsipas in Rome in 2019 in Round 2, 63 62

Federer withdrew against Tsitsipas in Round 3

That's the closest he ever came to facing either Sinner or Alcaraz

Fed could have met both in the semi's of the French 2021 but both knocked out early and Roger withdrew in the 4th round.

neither at the level at the time anyway

Does Djokovic actually think he can win this from here lol

This is a performanceof incredible courage and bravery from Novak showing great respect for the Tournament by carrying on when lesser mortals would have stopped. The GOAT R
refuses to lie down , incredible

Yes he is extremely brave and courageous, he's right up there with bomb defusal experts and the SAS

True.

Hopefully he will die on the court to show how brave he is.

Not necessarily true.

I always find it amusing when players start ranting at their coaches. "I'm not playing well enough, and it's your fault."

yeah, why didn't he praise them after the 2-0 lead in this set?

Don't think Novak is tapping, but he is clearly not fit.

Cahill ruined Cirstea's career, she was going places before he got his hands on her, that Toronto final was in spite of him lol

Jul 11, 2025 -- 6:18PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:

Djoko evens to win this set 2-0 up. Never thought I would see the day.

1.48 at 3-1, but race to 1000 after that.

I don't think it is, but potentially the last time we see Novak serve at Wimbledon.

This is making me think of Paul Sorvino's old lion speech from The Cooler

don't think losing will cause him to retire so soon, but constantly having his body let him down might do it.

injured at his two most recent Wimbledons. At the Aussie Open this year. Roland Garros last year ...

Jul 11, 2025 -- 6:44PM, TheCarambaExperience wrote:

I don't think it is, but potentially the last time we see Novak serve at Wimbledon.

I would be surprised if it wasn't.

This isn't really a changing of the guard moment, that happened some time ago, probably when Sinner beat him in the Davis Cup singles match and hasn't lost to him since, don't think Novak had ever lost a Singles match for Serbia before that and we know how much he loves playing for his country.

The biggest changing of the guard moment in tennis came in 2001 between Sampras and Federer, in women's it was the Indian Wells final in 99 with Graf losing to Serena.

of course that's been a concern most of his career, but in the past he was able to win slams when not 100%.

Federer's loving this, it's probably the only record he has left, most Wimbledon titles

I don't think it is, but potentially the last time we see Novak receive at Wimbledon.

Will Novak do a farewell tour? Seems likely he will go to Wimbledon next year with no chance, can't see him playing under those circumstances

The King is dead, long live the King.

Jul 11, 2025 -- 6:51PM, Angela Rebecchi wrote:

Will Novak do a farewell tour? Seems likely he will go to Wimbledon next year with no chance, can't see him playing under those circumstances

He seems like the type of player to do a farewell tour. To get all the love he didn't for most of his career. It depends on his body of course.

well that was a bit of an anti climax. thought djoko could at least take a set

What drug did Sinner get banned for? Ozempic?

It's not the losing, it's being obliterated that makes me think that might be it.

I think he'll retire Australian Open 2026. He'll go down as the king of down under, just as Roger is the king on grass and Rafa on clay.

AO would be logic given all the success he had there, but it wouldn't make sense to do all that off season training to then only play 3-4 weeks. That's why I am thinking Wimbledon, or maybe US Open. And for most players it takes more than one thrashing like this to pack it in.

He's not gonner retire after 1 tournament in 2025, long way to go to say goodbye in a country he's not from, where he's not universally loved even if it's his most successful slam or the fact it's not even his favourite major, which as he's told us a million times growing up as a small child 'was Wimbledon'.

He'll either retire in Belgrade which just so happens to be the last tour even on the calendar this year, or more likely play the very last tournament of the season which he will still qualify for, the Tour finals.

If not at either of those two events, it will be Wimbledon

He's not gonner retire after 1 tournament in 2026*

My guess would be Belgrade 2026

Because at that point he'll probably be outside the worlds top 8 and wont be able to qualify for the Tour finals anyway

What also strikes me is that he won so relatively easy to get to that semi - then got smashed as we saw.

Doesn't say much for the 2nd layer of players below Djok does it?

Only alternative explanation is that carrying some injury reduced his play here - that's possible too.

It seems he's going to do the farewell tour.

At his post match press conference (source the Express) 'Hopefully it's not my last match on Centre Court. I'm not planning to finish my Wimbledon career today. I'm planning to come back definitely at least one more time'

His thinking may not be disimilar to Stu's point above ^ If he's on his own one man second tier in between the untouchable premier league main two and the 'conference reserves' standard rest of the tour then there is the argument that all it would take is a couple of injuries or dodgy curries and he'd have a chance.

I don't think it's about getting to 25 because that would mean he was taking the Margaret Court comparison seriously and I doubt that he does. I think it's about being one off the record for Wimbledon titles and Roger sitting pretty.

he can do what he likes journey. hes not winning another slam. hes said himself that physically he just cant deal with two weeks of best of 5 sets tennis