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G'day Mates! It's time for the first slam of the year and with it time for the new tennis season's first Mouse Trap Trophy. Snowynoon is the defending champion of both the men's and women's edition of the 2024 AO Mouse Trap Trophy.
Basic rules are very simple (no changes compared to the previous edition, so veterans need not read)
For each day of play, pick one player that you think will win their match. If your player wins, you advance to the next day and get to pick again. If your player loses, you are out. Each player can only be chosen once over the course of the tournament. The picks continue every day until only one person is left, everyone has been eliminated, or the tournament has finished. Each pick has to be submitted before the relevant match starts and once you've submitted the pick, you are stuck with it unless the match did not happen due to a prematch withdrawal. In that case you get to submit a new pick. That's the basic rules already.
Tiebreaker:
If multiple people go out on the same day and no-one remains, these last people to go out submit their best educated judgements regarding the outcome of the final match of the tournament - winner of the final, amount of sets lost by the winner, amount of games lost by the winner, points won by the winner. Judged also in that order. If both are the same in winner, then we go to sets. If both also had the same number of sets, then we go to games. If that's also still the same or the same difference to the actual number, then points won. That should hopefully always lead to a conclusion.
To enable that, those tiebreaker judgements will be sent to me per private message (or maybe X in some cases) instead of being publically announced in the thread. If the tiebreaker involves me, we'd have to find someone else who accepts the private messages, but I'm positive that will not be a problem.
At the end, glory, lots of forum cred, and an entry into the competition's Hall of Fame awaits the ultimate winner. The Hall of Fame can be found at:
https://community.betfair.com/tennis/go/thread/view/94186/30945693/suicide-pool-winners-throughout-the-years
As with most things in life there are some corner cases. To read them, please click on the spoiler button below.
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Onto the cases:
Case: A pick I made became invalid because the match didn't happen due to a withdrawal. I have a life and don't sit on the computer all day to monitor such things, so wasn't able to submit a replacement pick. Am I screwed?
Decision: No, there is a backup solution. The last to start eligible favourite (I will use average odds on tennisexplorer.com) of the day is automatically entered for you. Eligible means player that had not been picked yet on a previous day.
Case: There was a retirement. Does the pick still count?
Decision: Yes, picks count the moment 1 ball has been played in the match.
Case: I looked at the wrong schedule and picked a player that doesn't even play. What now?
Decision: Please submit a new pick.
Case: A lot of matches were rescheduled for the next day due to rain. Can I pick from those on the new day?
Decision: No, rescheduled matches are not eligible to be picked from. If this situation arises, I will try to post a list of ineligible matches.
Case: I have the same amount of winning picks as someone else, but I ran out of picks whereas the other person was able to make another pick (which then lost). What happens?
Decision: The other person finishes ahead of you. Think of it this way. The moment you ran out of picks to make, you navigated your bicycle into a big mountain of dung. You are unharmed, but you cannot continue your ride on the bike. The other person only rode their bike into the pile of dung the moment their pick lost, which is a long time after you did it. Therefore the other person made it further and gets to finish ahead of you.
Case: I have a great suggestion for the comp. Am I allowed to tell you and others?
Decision: Sure, suggestions are always welcome!
Sunday start! So that's when the first pick will be required.
Basic rules are very simple (no changes compared to the previous edition, so veterans need not read)
For each day of play, pick one player that you think will win their match. If your player wins, you advance to the next day and get to pick again. If your player loses, you are out. Each player can only be chosen once over the course of the tournament. The picks continue every day until only one person is left, everyone has been eliminated, or the tournament has finished. Each pick has to be submitted before the relevant match starts and once you've submitted the pick, you are stuck with it unless the match did not happen due to a prematch withdrawal. In that case you get to submit a new pick. That's the basic rules already.
Tiebreaker:
If multiple people go out on the same day and no-one remains, these last people to go out submit their best educated judgements regarding the outcome of the final match of the tournament - winner of the final, amount of sets lost by the winner, amount of games lost by the winner, points won by the winner. Judged also in that order. If both are the same in winner, then we go to sets. If both also had the same number of sets, then we go to games. If that's also still the same or the same difference to the actual number, then points won. That should hopefully always lead to a conclusion.
To enable that, those tiebreaker judgements will be sent to me per private message (or maybe X in some cases) instead of being publically announced in the thread. If the tiebreaker involves me, we'd have to find someone else who accepts the private messages, but I'm positive that will not be a problem.
At the end, glory, lots of forum cred, and an entry into the competition's Hall of Fame awaits the ultimate winner. The Hall of Fame can be found at:
https://community.betfair.com/tennis/go/thread/view/94186/30945693/suicide-pool-winners-throughout-the-years
As with most things in life there are some corner cases. To read them, please click on the spoiler button below.
Spoiler: Show
Onto the cases:
Case: A pick I made became invalid because the match didn't happen due to a withdrawal. I have a life and don't sit on the computer all day to monitor such things, so wasn't able to submit a replacement pick. Am I screwed?
Decision: No, there is a backup solution. The last to start eligible favourite (I will use average odds on tennisexplorer.com) of the day is automatically entered for you. Eligible means player that had not been picked yet on a previous day.
Case: There was a retirement. Does the pick still count?
Decision: Yes, picks count the moment 1 ball has been played in the match.
Case: I looked at the wrong schedule and picked a player that doesn't even play. What now?
Decision: Please submit a new pick.
Case: A lot of matches were rescheduled for the next day due to rain. Can I pick from those on the new day?
Decision: No, rescheduled matches are not eligible to be picked from. If this situation arises, I will try to post a list of ineligible matches.
Case: I have the same amount of winning picks as someone else, but I ran out of picks whereas the other person was able to make another pick (which then lost). What happens?
Decision: The other person finishes ahead of you. Think of it this way. The moment you ran out of picks to make, you navigated your bicycle into a big mountain of dung. You are unharmed, but you cannot continue your ride on the bike. The other person only rode their bike into the pile of dung the moment their pick lost, which is a long time after you did it. Therefore the other person made it further and gets to finish ahead of you.
Case: I have a great suggestion for the comp. Am I allowed to tell you and others?
Decision: Sure, suggestions are always welcome!
Sunday start! So that's when the first pick will be required.
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I see both Nishis are playing so for clarification Nishioka.
Through to day 2:
aaronh - Lehecka
Blencathra - Machac
snowynoon - Opelka
Pending:
edy - Nishioka
GRANTCKING - Nishioka
noTry - Faria
SamuelMertensBertens - Nishioka
Newly out:
Habib def. wisewords
aaronh - Lehecka
Blencathra - Machac
snowynoon - Opelka
Pending:
edy - Nishioka
GRANTCKING - Nishioka
noTry - Faria
SamuelMertensBertens - Nishioka
Newly out:
Habib def. wisewords
A number of matches were cancelled today due to the extended rain delay. The following matches that were originally scheduled for day 1 are not eligible to be picked from for day 2. As a positive, if someone was late to the comp, they can choose from the following four matches as their day 1 pick. If anyone does that, please also submit a day 2 pick from the other matches that are scheduled for Monday. Similar goes for those whose picks are pending from day 1: You will need to make a day 2 pick as well.
The ineligible matches for day 2 are:
Dzumhur - Vukic
Faria - Kotov
Nishioka - Dougaz
Shang - Davidovich
The ineligible matches for day 2 are:
Dzumhur - Vukic
Faria - Kotov
Nishioka - Dougaz
Shang - Davidovich
I forgot about this on Saturday but I see that, thanks to the rain, I can still catch up.
Day 1: Yoshihito Nishioka
Day 2: Sebastian Korda
Day 1: Yoshihito Nishioka
Day 2: Sebastian Korda
Through to day 3:
Anubis8 - Nishioka, Korda
Blencathra - Machac, Mensik
GRANTCKING - Nishioka, Mensik
SamuelMertensBertens - Nishioka, Draper
snowynoon - Opelka, Thompson
Freshly out:
McCabe def. aaronh, edy
Maroszan def. noTry
Anubis8 - Nishioka, Korda
Blencathra - Machac, Mensik
GRANTCKING - Nishioka, Mensik
SamuelMertensBertens - Nishioka, Draper
snowynoon - Opelka, Thompson
Freshly out:
McCabe def. aaronh, edy
Maroszan def. noTry
Through to day 4:
Anubis8 - Nishioka, Korda, Kecmanovic
Blencathra - Machac, Mensik, Tien
GRANTCKING - Nishioka, Mensik, Tien
SamuelMertensBertens - Nishioka, Draper, Tien
Freshly Out:
Moutet def. snowynoon
Anubis8 - Nishioka, Korda, Kecmanovic
Blencathra - Machac, Mensik, Tien
GRANTCKING - Nishioka, Mensik, Tien
SamuelMertensBertens - Nishioka, Draper, Tien
Freshly Out:
Moutet def. snowynoon
Through to day 5:
Anubis8 - Nishioka, Korda, Kecmanovic, Fils
Blencathra - Machac, Mensik, Tien, Lehecka
GRANTCKING - Nishioka, Mensik, Tien, Humbert
SamuelMertensBertens - Nishioka, Draper, Tien, Humbert
Anubis8 - Nishioka, Korda, Kecmanovic, Fils
Blencathra - Machac, Mensik, Tien, Lehecka
GRANTCKING - Nishioka, Mensik, Tien, Humbert
SamuelMertensBertens - Nishioka, Draper, Tien, Humbert
No need to make funny faces just because you are selecting the biggest choker under the sun.
Through to day 6 - we are down to the final three:
Anubis8 - Nishioka, Korda, Kecmanovic, Fils, Shelton
GRANTCKING - Nishioka, Mensik, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen
SamuelMertensBertens - Nishioka, Draper, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen
Freshly Out:
Sonego def. Blencathra
Anubis8 - Nishioka, Korda, Kecmanovic, Fils, Shelton
GRANTCKING - Nishioka, Mensik, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen
SamuelMertensBertens - Nishioka, Draper, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen
Freshly Out:
Sonego def. Blencathra
Through to day 7:
Anubis8 - Nishioka, Korda, Kecmanovic, Fils, Shelton, Lehecka
GRANTCKING - Nishioka, Mensik, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen, Paul
SamuelMertensBertens - Nishioka, Draper, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen, Paul
Anubis8 - Nishioka, Korda, Kecmanovic, Fils, Shelton, Lehecka
GRANTCKING - Nishioka, Mensik, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen, Paul
SamuelMertensBertens - Nishioka, Draper, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen, Paul
Through to day 8:
Anubis8 - Nishioka, Korda, Kecmanovic, Fils, Shelton, Lehecka, de Minaur
GRANTCKING - Nishioka, Mensik, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen, Paul, de Minaur
SamuelMertensBertens - Nishioka, Draper, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen, Paul, de Minaur
Anubis8 - Nishioka, Korda, Kecmanovic, Fils, Shelton, Lehecka, de Minaur
GRANTCKING - Nishioka, Mensik, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen, Paul, de Minaur
SamuelMertensBertens - Nishioka, Draper, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen, Paul, de Minaur
I'm not in the best shape btw with only Nishioka out.
Through to day 9:
Anubis8 - Nishioka, Korda, Kecmanovic, Fils, Shelton, Lehecka, de Minaur, Paul
GRANTCKING - Nishioka, Mensik, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen, Paul, de Minaur, Djokovic
SamuelMertensBertens - Nishioka, Draper, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen, Paul, de Minaur, Djokovic
Anubis8 - Nishioka, Korda, Kecmanovic, Fils, Shelton, Lehecka, de Minaur, Paul
GRANTCKING - Nishioka, Mensik, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen, Paul, de Minaur, Djokovic
SamuelMertensBertens - Nishioka, Draper, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen, Paul, de Minaur, Djokovic
Through to day 9:
Anubis8 - Nishioka, Korda, Kecmanovic, Fils, Shelton, Lehecka, de Minaur, Paul, Sonego
GRANTCKING - Nishioka, Mensik, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen, Paul, de Minaur, Djokovic, Shelton
SamuelMertensBertens - Nishioka, Draper, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen, Paul, de Minaur, Djokovic, Sonego
Anubis8 - Nishioka, Korda, Kecmanovic, Fils, Shelton, Lehecka, de Minaur, Paul, Sonego
GRANTCKING - Nishioka, Mensik, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen, Paul, de Minaur, Djokovic, Shelton
SamuelMertensBertens - Nishioka, Draper, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen, Paul, de Minaur, Djokovic, Sonego
Through to day 11:
Anubis8 - Nishioka, Korda, Kecmanovic, Fils, Shelton, Lehecka, de Minaur, Paul, Sonego, Zverev
GRANTCKING - Nishioka, Mensik, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen, Paul, de Minaur, Djokovic, Shelton, Zverev
SamuelMertensBertens - Nishioka, Draper, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen, Paul, de Minaur, Djokovic, Sonego, Zverev
Anubis8 - Nishioka, Korda, Kecmanovic, Fils, Shelton, Lehecka, de Minaur, Paul, Sonego, Zverev
GRANTCKING - Nishioka, Mensik, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen, Paul, de Minaur, Djokovic, Shelton, Zverev
SamuelMertensBertens - Nishioka, Draper, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen, Paul, de Minaur, Djokovic, Sonego, Zverev
Through to day 12 - In the red corner we have SamuelMertensBertens who grabbed four of the eight available titles last season and who will be eager to continue their excellent form from last season. Despite being the second winningest contestant of the competition's history, a men's title at the Australian Open has however eluded him to this very day. Much unlike what has been the case for the fighter in the blue corner - Anubis8. Intially saved by the rain on day 1, he is looking to reclaim the title that was already his just a mere two years ago. With a title this year Anubis8 will be able to keep pace with wisewords for 4th winningest contestant and at the same time break the tie with Journeyman and everyone's most lovable host to claim sole possession of being the 5th winningest player in history.
Let's get ready to ruuumble!
Anubis8 - Nishioka, Korda, Kecmanovic, Fils, Shelton, Lehecka, de Minaur, Paul, Sonego, Zverev, Sinner
SamuelMertensBertens - Nishioka, Draper, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen, Paul, de Minaur, Djokovic, Sonego, Zverev, Shelton
Freshly Out:
Shelton def. GRANTCKING
Let's get ready to ruuumble!
Anubis8 - Nishioka, Korda, Kecmanovic, Fils, Shelton, Lehecka, de Minaur, Paul, Sonego, Zverev, Sinner
SamuelMertensBertens - Nishioka, Draper, Tien, Humbert, Michelsen, Paul, de Minaur, Djokovic, Sonego, Zverev, Shelton
Freshly Out:
Shelton def. GRANTCKING
Sorry, I am a bit late.
Djokovic's thigh ruined Anubis8's plans to reclaim the throne, whereas Sinner ground down Ben Shelton and allowed SamuelMertensBertens to get his first ever victory in the AO men's.
Congratulations!
Djokovic's thigh ruined Anubis8's plans to reclaim the throne, whereas Sinner ground down Ben Shelton and allowed SamuelMertensBertens to get his first ever victory in the AO men's.
Congratulations!
With this title SamuelMertensBertens tied n88uk for most titles in the comp's history.
woohoo! Thanks for running and bring on Roland Garros!
I think the key to victory is picking Jack Draper in the first days, survive a scare with him, and then it's pretty easy from there. I think someone else did this in recent times.
Congratulations SMB. I'm happy to have made it as far as the semi-finals. Thanks Edy for running this again.
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