Tennis Talk vol 34.3 (Wuhan, Tashkent, Shenzhen, Chengdu)

AMG knows Alona better than Bradman does I'm sure. But that OCC was not good behavior from Alona. AMG might need to have a Sumyk talk with her and put Osty on the naughty step, but that doesn't have to be in public.

classic Courtney

9 matches in 10 days is a lot esp when the last 5 were 3 sets, I think the tired excuse was legitmate tbh.

I think AMG is actually the sort of person Penko needs which is probably why they're still together and mostly working well, she's not a yes woman, seems quite stern, Penko knows she needs someone like that to kick her ar$e into gear. Would be surprised if that ended.

Does Puntinseva still work with the coach she humilated on court ?

is her boyfriend, no?

It wasn't offensive though, it was more childish. Sumyk was literally told to fuck off at times. I dunno why she called her in first place though as clearly she had checked out and wasn't going to listen to anything, so why bother?

is it ? never knew

Comfort blanket.

how did you get that past the swear filter n88

Sep 29, 2017 -- 12:08PM, mesmerised wrote:

9 matches in 10 days is a lot esp when the last 5 were 3 sets, I think the tired excuse was legitmate tbh.I think AMG is actually the sort of person Penko needs which is probably why they're still together and mostly working well, she's not a yes woman, seems quite stern, Penko knows she needs someone like that to kick her ar$e into gear. Would be surprised if that ended.

It will defo end sooner or later imo, but nothing to do with this. At some point Osty will just move on needing different things. Osty still has a very junior set up in her team, 98% of players move on that from that eventually.

maybe not offensive, but disrespectful.
I also think AMG is good for her.

Osty also wants someone to kick her in the arse I think, I don't think she actually wants a "yes man", I think she generally wants someone to tell her it as it is (though on days like today doesn't really matter if there's nothing there).

But Osty will move on as she just needs a more professional team. Like atm Osty doesn't work with AMG that much really, it's not like AMG is with her in Latvia, she's just at tournaments, that's not that often when you think about it, and it's not a great setup really (who knows what off season plan is though). She badly needs someone to help with serve, no real sign of that happening right now, and she's clearly fully aware of this too.

AMG is great, Oosty gets very grumpy and rude when she's tired or losing. AMG should put her in her place now.

At some point someone will get in her managers ear and say I can do this and that for Osty and that's how it will work. She will be one of the most desirable players to work with on tour so you will get this as attaching yourself to someone like this has a lot of upside (look at what AMG gained from it for example).

Btw since when did Beijing put these sorta matches on first Saturday?

This is tomorrow's OOP:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK4yinfWsAEBx9O.jpg

Norm they put a few garbage matches on Saturday at most?

Osty also wants someone to kick her in the arse I think, I don't think she actually wants a "yes man", I think she generally wants someone to tell her it as it is (though on days like today doesn't really matter if there's nothing there).

that's what I said above at 12:08, don't know who'd she's hire if AMG left though.

also, always have said that OCC should be banned anyway, it's entertaining for us, but if they actually want parity with the men it should end, it's meant to be an individual sport, and you never really see the likes of Serena using it because she wants to be seen in the same light as the men, independant.

I was responding to your post lol. There's plenty of coaches out there. Hard to just pluck a name out of thin air, but many of the top names around would hardly let her get away with bs.

I hate OCC too, I don't think it gives a good representation of players in general because too often players are only calling it it when in a bad mood in first place thus doesn't paint them in a good light.

Like you think how many of WTA's top names have been made to look utter mugs by OCC at some point, it's hardly what you want.

If I was a coach, I'd only agree to work with someone on the basis we'd have no OCC, esp as you're mic'd up, trying to work things out for yourself in the heat of the moment is meant to be character building, OCC is basically just mollycoddling a player over the line, they need to think for themselves.

There is defo times players use it to their benefit. Stuff like today though, what was the point, when Osty called it in 2nd set she had no interest in the match anymore, wtf was the point of calling the coach, to vent? But she barely did that, she only said about 3 words.

Aga must be seething that she couldn't play Wuhan this year. She would have loved to vulture this. Barty vs Garcia/Sakkari final ffs.

Would not be surprised if the final is only watched by 10% of the capacity.

José Morgado‏Verified account @josemorgado  4m4 minutes ago
Dudi Sela retired mid match today in Shenzhen just before the start of the Yom Kippur, one of the most important days in Judaism.

José Morgado‏Verified account @josemorgado  4m4 minutes ago
Dudi asked to play earlier, didn't get that request.

Jewish can't work or eat during the Yom Kippur

Sep 29, 2017 -- 12:48PM, caramba wrote:

Aga must be seething that she couldn't play Wuhan this year. She would have loved to vulture this. Barty vs Garcia/Sakkari final ffs.

Aga did play? Barty beat her?

Sep 29, 2017 -- 12:50PM, mesmerised wrote:

Would not be surprised if the final is only watched by 10% of the capacity.

It will be of course. I genuinely don't think I've ever seen a good crowd in Wuhan, this event is bs really.

Sep 29, 2017 -- 12:55PM, n88uk wrote:

José Morgado‏Verified account @josemorgado  4m4 minutes ago Dudi Sela retired mid match today in Shenzhen just before the start of the Yom Kippur, one of the most important days in Judaism.José Morgado‏Verified account @josemorgado  4m4 minutes ago Dudi asked to play earlier, didn't get that request.  Jewish can't work or eat during the Yom Kippur

It's not exactly like you're forced to by your government or tennis federation though

oh. that was last week she withdrew? I haven't been keeping up during Asian swing.

China swing is the lamest

also Jose is wrong because Yom Kippur starts at sunset today which is still hours away

Sep 29, 2017 -- 12:55PM, n88uk wrote:

José Morgado‏Verified account @josemorgado  4m4 minutes ago Dudi Sela retired mid match today in Shenzhen just before the start of the Yom Kippur, one of the most important days in Judaism.José Morgado‏Verified account @josemorgado  4m4 minutes ago Dudi asked to play earlier, didn't get that request.  Jewish can't work or eat during the Yom Kippur

Jews don't even believe in hell punishment. Should just ignore these things. What's their God gonna do?

sunset in Israel or sunset of wherever you happen to be on day of Yom Kippur?

was sure they have to observe Jerusalem time but now I'm not sure because like say NY people for instance are pretty liberal with these things. Jews they do what want like and all that

Sep 29, 2017 -- 12:58PM, caramba wrote:

oh. that was last week she withdrew? I haven't been keeping up during Asian swing.

Yes Radwanska played and lost to Barty this week in about R3.

that's ^ tongue in cheek btw. just in case*

Sep 29, 2017 -- 12:58PM, nofx wrote:

China swing is the lamest

Beijing at least is a credible event. Crowds norm good in Beijing, it has bit of prestige and feeling to it. Wuhan is the definition of a soulless event, no history, no prestige, no atmosphere, nothing.

in case any drifter about eager to report my goyim ass

drifters

oh I just hate on all Asian tennis because of their time zone situation

and their air quality

Dubai/Doha is ok.

don't really consider that Asia

but there they hate women so they can fuck off all the same or more so

for me it's more about time of the season than time zone I think. I have no problems staying up for Aussie swing. Players being fresh and motivated and crowds being hot probably helps though.

WTA Insider‏Verified account @WTA_insider  3m3 minutes ago
Ostapenko says she was struggling with energy. Didn’t have time to recover after her emotional midnight finish. Felt it on practice court.

sure but Aus I do stay up for. Asia is rough because it requires getting up or else you're still awake and only start at 4/5 AM which i just don't find doable any more

old age is the worst

Sep 29, 2017 -- 1:11PM, caramba wrote:

for me it's more about time of the season than time zone I think. I have no problems staying up for Aussie swing. Players being fresh and motivated and crowds being hot probably helps though.

I agree with this 100%. I am always 100% up for Aussie swing and ready for it. I think I said before but during Asian swing it's harder to devote your entire time to it, there feels more going on this time of year, and the time zone is super horrible for Europeans.

For players it depends who you are really, this time of year is always a question of who has the most gas in the tank. This year not many players feel totally spent, likely because the # of matches played across players is quite low this year as they've all had bad stretches in the year. Some years like half the top 10 are done by this time of the year.

sleeping in the day - into the evening - is alright. to start sleep in the evening is almost impossible for me personally

I think AO starting around midnight (1am for you) helps too. This feels an easier start than these starts at like 3-4-5am. Often then the play isn't finishing until 3-4-5pm, this a horrible schedule which allows you to do virtually nothing else.

AO you can norm go to bed by midday and be back up like 6pm and feel like you've not missed much.

Nofx said something similar I see.

this season has gone quick in general, Fedal final was 8 months ago already, which means another 4 months til SoranaGOAT wins her maiden slam. Every cloud.

Auckland-slam is as good as place to start your run as any

Caeroflot experiencing mild turbulence

How long has Thomas Johansson coached Sakkari?

Since at least USO if not before.

rain in Chengdu three points from GSM.

Sep 29, 2017 -- 12:55PM, n88uk wrote:

José Morgado‏Verified account @josemorgado  4m4 minutes ago Dudi Sela retired mid match today in Shenzhen just before the start of the Yom Kippur, one of the most important days in Judaism.José Morgado‏Verified account @josemorgado  4m4 minutes ago Dudi asked to play earlier, didn't get that request.  Jewish can't work or eat during the Yom Kippur

That must have been an absolute nightmare for people betting on it. Dudi lost the 1st set, won the 2nd set and broken Dog to start the 3rd and then retired!

LETS GO COOL NAOMI.

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Maria's revangeè terday .... in China best served sweet & sour ...

Beijing crowd loves Masha.

even cheering df's from Sevastova.

Maria Maria  !!

Barty vs Garcia = pure chokefest.

Garcia won the Wuhan Slam.

anyone know how low Barty today?

Nice shot, Maria.

Sharapova:

1.02              £1,728
1.03             £14,618
1.04             £61,087
1.05             £12,351
1.06             £56,280
1.07              £50,494
1.08             £20,063

*** petition to ban Sevastova to enter same tournaments as Sharapova ***

Have you ordered her new book yet?

no

1.02 never loses, innit?

Did you make enough Wettquotens from this match to be able to buy her new book?

Fighterpova

adrenaline overload

anyone know how low these players traded today:

Barty
Diyas
Gibbs

well done Sharapova...

yes

time the bigger issue when it comes to reading books though.

Sep 30, 2017 -- 3:50PM, caramba wrote:

Fighterpova

and also monstrous muggerpova today
the end saved me from a loss of the month, so thank you Masha for keeping your eyes on the target till the last ball is played no matter what muggery you get involved in along the way

If Doctor Muggerpova wasn't around, Mrs. Fighterpova would never be needed.

commentator: "Agnesia Radwanska", at least 3 times so far, and we are only one game into the match

I know she dropped from the top 10 and plays poorly, but she doesn't deserve this treatment

is it today you make good on that one-two-one, mouse?

forum broke again

..no updates

Petko goat mode

v Kiki No-ankles

Petko dance

yea Petkodance the one good thing to happen in China tour

Alice http://www.flashscore.com/match/8vkvGoQ8/#point-by-point;2

mugopolov *5-1 30-15

What a mug Konta.

has konta had her coach on?

she needs some advice here. these are miserable tactics against hackelescu.

I assume Fissette is there, not really being paying attention much if I'm honest.

only been watching since the beginning of the 2nd.

the execution is poor from here, and there may be reasons for that, but the approach is just plain idiotic.

*from her

Well it's over now anyway, she's not coming back from this.

Oct 1, 2017 -- 11:30AM, nofx wrote:

Alice http://www.flashscore.com/match/8vkvGoQ8/#point-by-point;2

Those Chinese players are pure garbage. Duan and Q. Wang are only ok. The rest are shiite

Goatelescu.

kamaaan Dodgers...

all hail Mchale ...