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Amazingly, Davydenko's name cropped up.
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Its hardly a shock though, dunno how it even made the news
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Tennis is one of the most corrupt sports around. If they aren't fixing then they are doping.
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who is the top 50 male player accused of repeatedly fixing his first set? Doping rife as well
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Article is on buzz feed...16 players regularly flag up but they don't name them.
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you sure Caramba? I thought either him or Fognini without looking at records
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yes it's Verdaaco
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looks like he's been fixing a few second sets more recently as well. How you know it's him or are you just guessing?
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I don't know if it's him they're referring to but this was written a few months ago:
http://lastwordonsports.com/2015/11/07/curious-case-fernando-verdascos-odds/ |
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so seems likely.
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looking at his 2015 results he lost a ridiculous amount of first sets alright. I'm sure he's dodgy, have thought so for a while. The evidence in the article is not the best tho in comparison to some more obv fixes, like those dutch doubles guys. They should have used betfair graphs and odds. Bookies withdrawing markets completely is much dodgier looking
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Is there even any liquidity on 1st set betting on here these days?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/35319202
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can't imagine a fixer gets more than a small fraction of profits out of bookies, most of it would be on here surely and it would all be reflected in price movements in match odds
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TBH it's all the usual suspects.
Just guess a few names and you will be pretty spot on. |
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The spanish have a bad reputation when it comes to fixing and doping in tennis and football. Not surprised about Verdasco.
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BBC report :
. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35325473 |
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https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/
2685408-Betting-and-Telecoms.html# document/p26/a271720 the leaked report |
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/heidiblake/the-tennis-racket#.rx0YGy6oov
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Majority of the stuff feels a long time ago. You get this feeling from them saying only 8 are in the AO draw.
It ties in with noticeable stuff on Betfair too. Back in 2007 you had points of the season where there was a fix a week, if not more. There hasn't been many dodgy markets at tour level on Betfair recently. |
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good article.
unsurprisingly paints the picture of the TIU many of us already guessed at. pretty f*cking shameful. |
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of course the significant corollary to this, is that if the ATP & WTA are more concerned about protecting their image than policing their sport, the insinuations and accusations made at places like THASP seem all the more plausible.
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absolutely. the report is based on the leaked study of pre 2009 cases. The 'scoop' or 'news', if you'll call it that is that they did nothing about it back then despite strong evidence and that is the only real 'news' in the articles.
I reported those 2 Dutch lads to them when they played. Nothing done about it. The TIU can get account details from Betfair in these cases but don't want to know. The TIU and drug testing in tennis is ridiculous, people need to give the sport a lot of stick about it for it to change. They are only concerned with protecting the image, prominent people slating the sport will affect its image and they will act then. That bloke in the press conf earlier said they've spent £14m on anti-corruption. On what exactly i wonder? Seb Coe will be a happy man this week |
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https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/
2691173-TIU-Response-to-BuzzFeed-News- 15-January-2016.html#document/p3/a272115 |
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the really damning bit of that buzzfeed article is that the ATP deliberately chose TIU-lite instead of a proper unit.
so yes, they probably can say they've not covered anything up, because they've made next to no f*cking effort to investigate anything that would need to be covered up. |
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The problem is the actual important parts of the articles with regards to TIU being weak get totally ignored by the major outlets like BBC. Instead they run with the sensational stuff about match fixing at Wimbledon, a grand slam winner involved.
The media in general handles these cases awfully. There should be pressure for these reports with names to be revealed, you reveal it with the facts so no chance of libel responses (ie. Player X was getting matched at very strange odds). Focus on why the TIU is not up to scratch. Now you've got people talking on TV like match fixing is rife going on every week, which is clearly not the case. In part I feel it's because they don't get anyone in who understands betting markets. There are people out there that believe the it could just be one person betting lots on their opinion stuff etc. Tennis response today was pathetic, but I've read only minor criticism (mainly from Twitter) criticising it. |
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Ultimately feel nothing will happen and this will be largely brushed under the carpet and forgotten.
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The problem is the actual important parts of the articles with regards to TIU being weak get totally ignored by the major outlets like BBC. Instead they run with the sensational stuff about match fixing at Wimbledon, a grand slam winner involved.
despite buzzfeed doing an excellent job of emphasizing where the problem really lies. i love the idea of the SEC not looking at grossly suspicious trading data and monitoring the exchanges, because they think it's better if brokers inform them. |
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I just want to know who the players are that attract unusual betting patterns and also players who text match fixers. They accused Pakistan of match fixing against England at cricket recently because there were allegedly unusual betting patterns. It was unfounded but it would be nice to know specially if you wanted to make a decent sized bet. I don't bet on Pakistan matches anymore. Makes life easier, no drama's
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the matchfixing story obviously had an impact on Verdasco
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how he beat nadal on hard court if he a fixer
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I think you might find drug testing is better these days. Nadal hasn't won much lately. I wonder why that is?
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http://lastwordonsports.com/2015/11/07/curious-case-fernando-verdascos-odds/
Can someone please tell me what program or webpage shows odds and opening prices and movements like shown in this article? |
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If nadal was doping he has stopped completely and/or his body has broken down from years of doping (which is inevitable if you dope consistently for years). New testing/rules would not be the reason he has stopped, unless he has missed 2 out of competition tests in the last 12 months, but we are never told when those tests are missed. Dopers don't stop because of new testing, they will move with the times and work around the tests. The new tests are always announced in advance in every sport, which I've never understood unless as I believe the authorities don't really want to catch dopers.
If Verdasco is a fixer it's probably the one time he wouldn't risk it after the scrutiny from the reports this week. Tier - try flashscores or tennis explorer. TE will show you historic odds from old matches |
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Tennis match fixers taking anxieties out on court this week.
Verdasco hammered the living daylights out of the tennis balls in a win over Nadal. Azarenka wins 6-0 6-0 Fixarevic, Llodra and Chela currently in hiding. |
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There is a Programme on Radio 4 Tonight 8pm might be worth Listening to ,8 of the suspect players are playing in the OZ open according to reports ,I would not be surprised if Nadal heads the list tbh
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