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Who wins? Novak is ludicrously priced at less than evens, when federer and wawrinka have this year have either beaten him or run him extremely close. If Cilic plays like he did at the US open on that ridiculous form he'll wipe anyone including Djokovic. So who wins?
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Wawrinka is in terrible form. Cilic's form at the US Open wasn't that unstoppable and he's not in that form anyway.
Djokovic is correctly priced given he's won 27 matches in a row indoors and the format basically dictates he will nearly always be in the semi-finals from his group. The prices say he will be around 4/6 to win from the semi-final stage, hard to argue against that really. Nishikori looks value to beat Murray. | ||||
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The only person I can see beating Djokovic is Federer. Murray's outright price is appalling given his difficult group and likely SF meeting with Djokovic if he gets out of it.
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I expect Federer to win the whole thing
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2 weeks ago an on-form novak got scraped off roger's shoe in shanghai like a piece of poo. Aggressive, confident, majestic tennis which roger was not playing in 2012 and '13 when novak beat him at this tourney. Roger's response to whether he will be #1 at year end shows he knows he is the best player in the world again... it doesnt matter whether i'm #1 this year or early next year (ie. I will return to #1). I would be very nervy backing novak at odds on when the outcome will be on roger's racquet.
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Greedisgood: If Cilic plays like he did at the US open on that ridiculous form he'll wipe anyone including Djokovic.
____________________ You let your excitment override your brains.! You forgot who Djokovic is. Particularly when he delivers his best. Ask Nadal and Federer if you do not believe me!  | ||||
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n88uk
Wawrinka is in terrible form. Cilic's form at the US Open wasn't that unstoppable and he's not in that form anyway. ___________________ Wawrinka and Cilic are in their normal form. What they delivered in AO and USo was not normal!  | ||||
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Sorry but 4/5 Novak is ridiculous. I bet against federer or wawkrinka you could get double or triple those odds inplay.
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Plus having a baby waking you up all night can only affect one's alertness and perfomance
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You have to look at the logic of the format though.
It's easier to win this format than a regular tournament. There are only 2 must win matches. It's nearly impossible for someone like Djokovic to go out in his group. He's 1.11 to qualify from his group. That leaves him 1.65 on average to win from semi-finals onwards. He will be 1.2-1.25 vs anyone from that 2nd group except Federer. Vs Federer probably about 1.4-1.5 (depending how Federer looks). That gives you over 1.65, but when you factor in Federer has to get far enough to play Djokovic the price will be about correct. If the absolute odds toughest route occurs and the semi's are Djokovic vs Murray, Federer vs Cilic I'd expect Djokovic to be around 1.75. And that's as tough as it can possibly be before the semi-final stage for Djokovic. | ||||
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Your numbers add up n88 but the reason i believe novak is too short is because if/when he meets roger i believe instead of 1.5 he should be 2.0 or higher, based on the shift in momentum at wimbledon and shanghai, rogers resurgence, novaks first baby and his dodgy ankle last week. Stats, history, h2h, doesnt matter to me... roger has found the key to the door and has a brilliant chance to turn him over once more. 1.5 for novak to beat him is a joke and is why novak is way too short on the outright.
It reminds me of 2011 when novak kept annihilating nadal having suddenly mastered his punch from the back foot, but each time they met nadal was 1.3-1.5. While you could see after the first h2h of that run that power had shifted, it took several more h2hs for the markets to realise that momentum had shifted in the rivalry. | ||||
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hope rartherbet can give me evens if they meet in F
group winners seem obvious, who comes 2nd? | ||||
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djokovic is head and shoulders the number 1 player at the moment whatever delusions federer might have
gap is likely to widen too with djokovic only having a quarter final to defend in australia | ||||
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am amazed Greed is Good thinks Novak does the baby thing at night. The child won't be within earshot!
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am amazed Greed is Good thinks Novak does the baby thing at night. The child won't be within earshot!
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N88 still talking utter bollox I see?
Nishikori value to beat Murray at 3? are you having a laugh? Murray in a tough group? kidding right, two rookies will be no threat at all, mark miwordz match vs Fed in 2nd group game decides the group winner and who plays ND in the semi very simple | ||||
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Nishori great bet, and now might be the bet time to lay off . Novak to beat cilic in 2 and wawa to beat novak great bets too.
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we are all laughing on judorick
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bravo sir, 'very simple' indeed
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Nishi was excellent value, and yes I am aftertiming
Market must have thought Kei bought his spot in the top 8 and Murray's the Murray of 2013, they've gone in opposite directions. I hope Judorick is ok | ||||
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wd scan. only like to back good value winners and followed in small. fed in 2 against Raonic is good too.
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novak 2-0 outright at 1.5 - good odds.
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I totally, agree with that, 2-0 Djoko, why, well these 2 have played 10 times, of which Djoko, has won all 10, however in their 8 hard court matches, Djoko is leading Cilic by 16 sets to 2 and their last two closer matches were played on clay and grass.
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Djokovic doesn't entirely convince me he is focused. I still reckon he'll scrape 2-0 though, Must be the baby keeping him up all night.
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4/6 on djokovic outright is a total joke. he clearly hasn't been practicing much since paris.
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why no video on betfair buts its on betfair moblie
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#usopenchampion
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fed looked good today.
looks like a toss up between fed, novak and wawa for the title. andy murray will beat Raonic in 2 tonight. strong bet | ||||
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I reckon he'll struggle.
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GREEDISGOOD
Djokovic doesn't entirely convince me he is focused. ....Must be the
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novak is not at his best, but i predicted he would still win in straight. I mean all he had to do was get he ball over the net against Cilic, as he was so poor. I;m here to make money not be drawn into childish 'who's right and who is wrong' insults. Against fed it looks like a 50-50
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Gota fancy cilic on berdychs last performance
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djoc, 88 per cent strike rate hard court,took 1.82.
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Berdych and cilic will be much more free flowing in the library atmosphere this afternoon, no pressure at all. I think berdych will have the upper hand as he is a veteran of the event and will know this is his only chance to salvage pride before djoko pummelling.
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Couldnt have been more wrong about it being free flowing... horrible disjointed match so far.
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Very dull tennis, no wonder the crowd's so flat each point is too quick
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How did Cilic ever win anything
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