Who control odds on every tennis match here?

40 million syndicate run by Troy McClure

Is this some joke? never heard about that organization

edy

What edy ?

THE edy

Not understand

Edy controls betfair and the markets

you can find him on here everyday in the mega thread

talk to Edy

I found nickname edy. Sent him a message. How do you mean controls betfair and markets? Is he one of betfair owners or just a trader?

edy rules everything and everyone

he must be a king here

^yeah edy the SP king,who wears alot of bling

Edy controls the markets and how much he wants you to win if feeling generous

It seems that he is not too generous last days

Im surprised people don't take this subject more seriously. Ive seen a very fast feed for tennis and you still cant beat these guys, even if you take a chance and anticipate the point.

I think it's more beating the bet placement delay than  courtsiders. A courtsider can press Player A or Player B he cant control the more complex points (challenges etc) but still this mob have total control.

If it is a betting syndicate and not Betfair they should close them down because it's anti competitive at the min. Anyone sensible will leave it to them.

How do you get fast pictures and how much does it cost?

They were someone else's pictures but the cost was ridiculously low (£20 a day maybe) mainly because there's no edge!

I thought that betfair itself manage tennis markets or some bookmaker with their betting software or company which officially distribute score updates to all others. A group of persons are involved here, one person cant manage 20+ matches at same time. I just was curious about this, but it is clear that you cant beat them. Betfair will not ban them for sure, because they pay big amounts premium charges for sure.

When the courtsider was arrested in OZ he was part of a syndicate of ex-Betfair staff. So maybe it is them. I suppose they would be very sophisticated.

Some syndicate involved for sure with perfect odds modeling and fastest feeds, maybe they are in some relation with betfair. but also I spotted that sometimes someone place bets without 5 sec delay which is other story

it's even worse on purple, as there is noone else

Have you tried matchbook. Be careful they charge 1% on each bet win or lose and not per market.

You can also have a look at smarkets as well and see if maybe you can do some of your stuff on there. Pre-match it is more or less a direct clone of BF with lower sums (though on Tomic-Falla it currently has more available at best odds). In-Play it is more or less the same situation, but not all markets are seeded. Sometimes he'll start seeding somewhere during the match, sometimes not at all (most main draw ATP matches should be seeded from the start from what I've seen so far, but I can't promise that they always will be)

If BF is down, then it is just about dead. Really and seriously dead...from what I remember anyway.

2% flat commission on every market, no reduction possible. Used to allow you like one free withdrawal, then charge, but are currently running a trial until some time in the fall of allowing as many free withdrawals as you wish (except for non-UK bank transfers)

Settling definitely takes longer than at both BF and purple. It can be hours at times sadly. Said it's all settled automatically (though if you nag them enough they might settle manually) and if it takes longer it's because of their feed provider. Boy does their feed provider suck at times.

Currently you also can't change stake/odds once your bet has been submitted and I also don't think there's a trading tool available (I guess the market seeder(s) wrote something himself). So to do change bets you have to manually cancel your previous one and resubmit your new one. Talked to them recently and they told me they hope to re-add the feature. Who knows when or if they'll do that though....

One curious thing about laying with them: On purple and bf if you click lay 1.5 and type in 100, then your liability is 50 and your potential win is 100. On smarkets you would enter 50 for the same result (i.e even if you lay you enter your wanted liability, rather than what you want to win like with BF)

Another difference. If the price changes and you get matched at a better price. On BF and purple your stake will stay the same, but your potential win rises. On smarkets your stake is reduced, while your potential win stays the same.

In-Play delay is also sadly longer....

But hey, 2% commission and they don't throw us out (just yet.....)

Not tried other exchanges due to low liquidity, but I will consider. Edy, do you control markets on other sports or only tennis? Do you use other exchanges?  Matchbook and smarkets don't offer API software I think.

I don't control any markets. None. The other folks were simply joking.

I also don't know who does, sorry. That smarkets comments was mainly targeted at bb66 too as bf recently stopped taking customers from his country, but anyone is welcome there I'm sure...

except frenchies

Edy, do you control markets on other sports or only tennis?

successful fred guys

can't find the tennis matches running atm to bet on live on MB

MB doesn't offer in-play tennis betting. Maybe they offer the really big stuff like Wimbledon finals in-play, but no daily tennis. In general they offer very little In-Play.

then it might be good for doing arbs on football, but useless for my tennis betting

one person cant manage 20+ matches at same time. I just was curious about this, but it is clear that you cant beat them.

Whoever it is isn't betting off quick pictures, they are getting the scores quickly from the umpires pda and then letting their bot work off that feed.  So one person could monitor plenty of matches

Jul 18, 2014 -- 10:54AM, DonNo1 wrote:

one person cant manage 20+ matches at same time. I just was curious about this, but it is clear that you cant beat them.Whoever it is isn't betting off quick pictures, they are getting the scores quickly from the umpires pda and then letting their bot work off that feed.  So one person could monitor plenty of matches

You can see that when a goal is incorrectly awarded in some football matches. The market reacts fully on some occasions, with market seeders putting money in, only for the goal to be ruled out or never even given - despite pictures being available.

If you're right about the umpire-bot situation - which makes total sense - how comes you can't even beat them when anticipating the point using fast pics? Umpire/bot is a real game killer though and anti-liquidity in my opinion.

every possibility that whomever it is, is using numerous sources.

for televised matches they no doubt have their Daniel Dobsons, for non televised they are somehow getting a score feed way before it gets to enetpulse .

Whoever it is pay Premium Charge, so BF won't care.

Ultra-sophisticated players picking off all the mug money while anyone remotely clued up takes a step back is not good for Betfair, premium charge or not.

You can sometimes oceanfinance, it all depends on the feed speed.  Sometimes he's a few seconds ahead, sometimes only just and sometimes he's actually behind though that's a rarity as a lot of the feeds have been taken over by somebody processing them slower than used to be

I will not be surprised if enetpulse with their direct feeds manage all markets

I would. That Gasquet match earlier on, at times and practically from Estrella breaking, had nobody in control.

you didn't spot the bot here because there was bigger amount of money on market, and bot with 1000-1200 Eur bets can't control all that money. he is on markets most of times.

And now a complete lack of control on another Estrella match.

mxrmaster 19 Jul 14 00:20 
I will not be surprised if enetpulse with their direct feeds manage all markets

way faster than those feeds, and was in operation before the deal was struck.

Bot control all challenger matches, and most atp/wta. sometimes not control matches full time , just some period

some greedy bot. prices sux hard usually at challenger markets.

Bot disappear after someone put bigger money on market and odds become out of synchronization, but return little later