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bb66
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closing exchange for almost whole EuropeCry
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Report pandora1963 June 30, 2014 7:12 PM BST
eh??? Shocked
Report bb66 June 30, 2014 7:15 PM BST
only accessable if you live in Great Britain, Malta, Gibraltar, Ireland, or Denmark from July 14th onwards
Report bunneh June 30, 2014 7:21 PM BST
Source?
Report bb66 June 30, 2014 7:22 PM BST
BF email
Report bunneh June 30, 2014 7:25 PM BST
Copy paste content of the email?
Report bb66 June 30, 2014 7:34 PM BST
it's German though

ABSCHALTUNG DER WETTBÖRSE IN ÖSTERREICH
Betfair 

WICHTIGE KUNDENMITTEILUNG

Liebe/r xxx,

Wir bedauern mitzuteilen zu müssen das Betfair, nach einer Geschäftsanalyse, die Wettbörsenprodukte für Kunden aus Österreich nicht weiter anbieten wird. Die Wettbörse und Exchange Games werden ab dem 14. Juli 2014 nicht mehr verfügbar sein. Jedoch können wir bestätigen das Sportwetten im Sportsbook (Festquoten) und ebenso alle Casino, Arcade und Pokerprodukte weiter vollständig verfügbar sein werden.

Bis zu diesem Datum empfehlen wir alle ausstehenden Wetten zu verkaufen/abzusichern sofern dies möglich ist. Alle angenommenen Wetten werden dann abgerechnet sobald die jeweiligen Märkte beendet sind und eventuelle Gewinne werden gutgeschrieben.

Wir bedanken uns das Sie unsere Exchange Produkte genutzt haben.

Beachten Sie bitte das Betfair die Wettbörse und alle anderen Produkte in folgenden Ländern weiter anbietet:
Großbritannien
Malta
Gibraltar
Irland
Dänemark
Sollten Sie weitere Informationen benötigen besuchen Sie bitte unsere Tipps&Hilfe Sektion oder kontaktieren Sie uns auf deutsch@betfair.com.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Das Betfair Team
Report bb66 June 30, 2014 7:38 PM BST
http://de.learning.betfair.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/13500

link for help and tipps
Report dlarssonf June 30, 2014 7:42 PM BST
eventually all countries will be frozen out Cry
Report mesmerised June 30, 2014 7:45 PM BST
They really believe in this sportsbookLaugh
Report Platini June 30, 2014 8:11 PM BST
If its true that's a huge own goal

and an open door for purple
Report jin_kazz June 30, 2014 8:22 PM BST
bye bye betfail, welcome purple site
Report mesmerised June 30, 2014 8:33 PM BST
Have you had the same email jin ?
Report The Leopard June 30, 2014 8:40 PM BST
Translated :

TURN OFF THE EXCHANGE IN AUSTRIA
Betfair

IMPORTANT CUSTOMER MESSAGE

Love / r xxx,

We regret to have to inform the Betfair, after a business analysis, betting exchange products for customers from Austria will not offer further. The Betting Exchange and Exchange Games will no longer be available from 14 July 2014. However, we can confirm the sports betting Sportsbook (fixed rates) as well as any casino, arcade and poker products will continue to be fully available.

Up to this date, we recommend all outstanding bets to sell / hedge if this is possible. All bets taken are then billed as soon as the markets are completed and any winnings will be credited.

We thank you that you have used our Exchange products.

Please note that Betfair betting exchange and all other products in the following countries further offers:
Great Britain
Malta
Gibraltar
Ireland
Denmark
If you need further information please visit our Tips & Help section or contact us on deutsch@betfair.com.

With best regards,
The Betfair Team
Report dlarssonf June 30, 2014 8:51 PM BST
Is that the only places that Betfair exchange is running now Great Britain
Malta
Gibraltar
Ireland
Denmark

???
Report caramba June 30, 2014 9:13 PM BST
We'll see. It could be that it's just poorly worded in that email. I haven't heard anything (am in Sweden), neither has jin who's in Ukraine. When arrong asked them on twitter, they said it was only for some countries, not the majority of Europe. But either way, it's worrying that the exchange is shut down in one country after another, it certainly doesn't help liquidity.

bb, that sucks.
Report bb66 June 30, 2014 9:29 PM BST
it was worsened step by step for me, starting with a worsened Rabatte ladder, then increasing comm rate from 5 to 6.5%, at last 2 weeks ago giving no rabattes at all, and now closing it completely. Can't understand the strategy behindConfused
Report dlarssonf June 30, 2014 10:02 PM BST
BB66 I know liquidity is poor in Betquack is that an option for you though
Report bb66 June 30, 2014 10:05 PM BST
started to observe some markets, it is partially probably
Report dlarssonf June 30, 2014 10:12 PM BST
ok hope it works out for you
Report YOMOMMA July 1, 2014 8:16 AM BST
Das ist sehr unmoglich.
Report YOMOMMA July 1, 2014 8:20 AM BST
Nicht unmoglich aber unglaublich! Wie kann jenmand Wettquoten spielen auf Tennis jetzt. Die bet daq ist nicht so gute fur Tennis.
Report dom888 July 1, 2014 8:34 AM BST
the purple one is not too bad for uk racing. Sometimes you even get better odds than betfair in the place market for hot favorites. There is a weird bot who offers 1 tick higher than betfair sometimes.
Report SIR_Bond July 1, 2014 10:55 AM BST
Wettquotten
Report SIR_Bond July 1, 2014 10:55 AM BST
Move to England then
Report stu July 1, 2014 11:09 AM BST
bl00dy awful decision if BF actually do this.
Report fedexexpress July 1, 2014 11:41 AM BST
is there a good subsitute???
Report SHAPESHIFTER July 1, 2014 12:14 PM BST
It will come down to math and the % that each of these countries are contributing to the betting pie.
Report SHAPESHIFTER July 1, 2014 12:15 PM BST
....not to mention the % they need to give each of the governments they are taking bets from.
Report PatrickSwaze July 1, 2014 12:34 PM BST
I am in Switzerland... still no email
Report swebih July 1, 2014 12:52 PM BST
Hello from Swwden

Cant find anything about that?
Report swebih July 1, 2014 12:52 PM BST
Sueden
Report swebih July 1, 2014 12:57 PM BST
But Betfair dont work in Danmark today?
Report longbridge July 2, 2014 2:48 PM BST
Betfair Exchange is a regulated product in Denmark (source: Betfair 2012 annual report).  That's why Betfair report Denmark revenues in the 'sustainable revenue' bucket.
Report Garzooka July 2, 2014 4:47 PM BST
Sounds like another country applying the dreaded turnover tax to me
Report caramba July 3, 2014 12:36 AM BST
This is just for Austria, so rest of Europe (other than countries that have already been affected) is safe. For now anyway.
Report noadis July 3, 2014 5:03 AM BST
Hang on just a minute, are we saying BF exchange is FINNISH?
Report bb66 July 3, 2014 8:20 AM BST
but why do they name the specific countries if only Austria is affected?
Report caramba July 3, 2014 10:22 AM BST
Don't know, you'd have to ask Betfair Austria/whoever sent you the email about that. Maybe they just listed some examples of countries where everything will be like before.
Report Betfair Customer Services July 3, 2014 12:06 PM BST
Betfair would like to make it clear that it presently accepts exchange bets from over 150 countries worldwide. The message below was aimed at Austrian customers in the context of switching off the exchange for commercial reasons on July 14th. There is no intention to restrict the exchange offer to the countries listed. Such countries simply represent some examples of jurisdictions we are currently licensed.  The message was intended to provide Austrian customers with suggestions as to  which jurisdictions they might bet from in the event that they decided to relocate.
Report bb66 July 3, 2014 12:15 PM BST
that still leaves me not understanding how BF benefits to turn off the exchange just for Austrian usersSad
Report DStyle July 3, 2014 12:47 PM BST
well i imagine it costs them more to maintain a presence than they take in revenue.

personally, i never understood the approach of increasing commission in these territories. increasing rates rarely generates growth.
Report bb66 July 3, 2014 12:57 PM BST
they abandoned the German hotline already when Germany was excluded due to legal reason, I could also live with abandoning the remaining German helpdesk and the German website, though I don't know if this will be abandoned too when Switzerland is not excluded. They never did advertising in Austria, so I don't see any specific costs.
Report edy July 3, 2014 1:14 PM BST
Rejoice caramba and swebih, apparently Sweden was among the countries named as one of the cool and regulated countries in an email reply to an austrian customer.
Report bb66 July 3, 2014 1:20 PM BST
Sweden was not mentioned in that mail
Report edy July 3, 2014 1:41 PM BST
I meant in an extra mail on further inquiry by someone.
Report bb66 July 14, 2014 3:29 PM BST
read in another forum Switzerland will probably be closed soon too

trading on tennis matches almost impossible on purpleCry
Report mesmerised July 14, 2014 3:46 PM BST
You're all going to have to emigrate to England, we let anyone in
Report SIR_Bond July 16, 2014 1:44 PM BST
you log in through a portal with a uk ip address simple
Report bb66 July 16, 2014 2:08 PM BST
that would be too easy, I'd need a verified UK adress too
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